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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: processing please hold
You keep telling yourself that, EV if it makes you more comfortable in what you're doing. You're displaying bully tactics.

A serious question. What is it that you hope to achieve in this thread? Not at FR, but this particular thread. I don't clearly see anything for you to gain by keeping this thread going. At least, certainly not worth the effort you are expending.
16,161 posted on 04/30/2007 10:16:15 AM PDT by mutley
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*dashes out of his foxhole*

*low-crawls across the field under the incoming fire and plants a “START READING HERE LATER” marker*

*dashes back and dives into his foxhole*

}:-)4


16,162 posted on 04/30/2007 10:18:09 AM PDT by Moose4 ("(Rudy's) the exact same animal as Hillary only he wears a dress." --Jim Robinson)
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To: Kevmo
>I think that thread nanny over there is pretty wise not to want all this venom start spilling into their favorite threads

I kind of agree,
but for a long time Freepers
with an agenda

all their own haven't
thought twice about hijacking
threads to vent their views.

I don't really care
where such people blow their stack
and bite the big one.

They can't all be swayed
into posting in this thread
where it's convenient . . .

16,163 posted on 04/30/2007 10:18:36 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Kevmo
I kinda suspect this thread will be around for a while yet ... though the ban-fest portion of it is winding down.

And to think ... in the wee hours of last Tuesday morning, when I was jabbering with other posters on this thread about southern living and Alabama football ... I thought we were just borrowing the tail end of a dying thread.

Silly me. :-)

16,164 posted on 04/30/2007 10:19:05 AM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: EternalVigilance
Hurrah! And I'm not going to apologize to you for being happy about it. Why aren't you happy?

Of course I'm happy. But you can't see it EV because you're too close to it. A bully is a bully. Now, instead of liberals beating conservatives over the head on FR, Conservatives have stepped into their void and are beating fellow conservatives over the head but with a different stick.

Can you not see that, EV?

16,165 posted on 04/30/2007 10:20:28 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: EternalVigilance

All sober inquirers after truth, ancient and modern, pagan and Christian, have declared that the happiness of man, as well as his dignity, consists in virtue.

Reference: Papers of John Adams, Butterfield, ed., vol. 4 (86)


16,166 posted on 04/30/2007 10:20:36 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: welfareisslavery

Your homepage is a classic.


16,167 posted on 04/30/2007 10:22:07 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: metmom

Well, let’s see, you seemingly have the inability to differentiate between guys dressing up as gals for humor (as Giuliani did), or guys dressing up as gals for some weird sexual reasons.

I mention “Some Like It Hot” (you know... MOVIE? Marilyn Monroe? Tony Curtis? Jack Lemmon?) and you SOMEHOW twist THAT comment and accuse me of thinking “homosexuality is hot”?

You’re not worth arguing with.


16,168 posted on 04/30/2007 10:22:37 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: EternalVigilance

I particularly like this quote:

Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclination, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.
Reference: Legal Papers of John Adams, Wroth and Zobel, eds., vol. 3 (269) [Rex v. Wemms]

Reminds me of “Truth is not determined by majority vote”


16,169 posted on 04/30/2007 10:23:02 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Moose4
Heh ... that's pretty funny.
16,170 posted on 04/30/2007 10:23:06 AM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: Jim Robinson

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16,171 posted on 04/30/2007 10:23:39 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: processing please hold

Then stop giving the power to them by bumping this thread. I don’t agree with you that these are the new bullies, but if that’s the way you perceive it, it’s in your best interest to disperse this supposed crowd of bullies.


16,172 posted on 04/30/2007 10:24:21 AM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: EternalVigilance
"Actually, we’re trying to promote unity among conservatives..."

Unity is for leftists. Conservatives value the individual. Or used to.

16,173 posted on 04/30/2007 10:25:34 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: processing please hold

You’ve already admitted that those who are gone are bullies. Let me ask you a question: Where were you the thousands of times those people were trying to bully me? Because I’m having a hard time remembering you coming to my defense.


16,174 posted on 04/30/2007 10:25:45 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: Sam Cree
Unity is for leftists. Conservatives value the individual. Or used to.

Besides saying that that is a grossly ignorant comment, I don't really have much interest in talking to someone who thinks FReepers are a bunch of Maoists.

16,175 posted on 04/30/2007 10:28:41 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: mkjessup

“How’s that for a straight answer?”

That’s a pretty lousy straight answer.
In fact, Rudy and Hillary ARE the current front-runners.
Of course, things may change. Insofar as Rudy is concerned, I can even join you in hoping that things WILL change...

But, if the election is between Rudy and Hillary - WHO WOULD YOU VOTE FOR?
A third party candidate? I consider that a wasted vote, and another vote that helps put Her HIghness in office... can we at least agree that that’s the WORST CASE SCENARIO?


16,176 posted on 04/30/2007 10:28:56 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: Oliver Optic

I thought it wouldn’t last beyond Sunday Apr22. The thread I was on just prior to this had 3 people banned (like CeltJewLibertarian) and I thought that having a few freepers banned would get the message out. It didn’t. Well, now after this monster thread, the message is out but it’s still confusing some freepers who think it’s some kind of purge of idealogical purity. It’s not.


16,177 posted on 04/30/2007 10:29:33 AM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Sam Cree
Unity is for leftists. Conservatives value the individual. Or used to.

I would say that unity for a just cause is good for America, and that conservatives value the freedom loving individual.

And it's still true.
16,178 posted on 04/30/2007 10:32:22 AM PDT by mutley
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To: mutley
What is it that you hope to achieve in this thread?

I don't want liberal bullies replaced by conservative bullies and that's what's happening. I thought once they were gone, rudy supporters, the bashing and bullying would end against conservatives but it hasn't. Conservatives have turned against conservatives now. Where will it end?

The owner has done an excellent job of clearing FR from rudybots who tear down conservatives to uplift their liberal rino.

At least, certainly not worth the effort you are expending.

It is worth the effort I'm expending. FR's worth the effort I'm expending.

16,179 posted on 04/30/2007 10:32:31 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Kevmo

Just out of idle curiosity, what is “the message”?


16,180 posted on 04/30/2007 10:32:44 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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