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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: garv

Speaking of Fred, I happened to catch him on an old rerun of Roseanne last night. He and Streisand’s husband were both on the show.

I am anxious for him to announce his intentions. I’d like to know more about him.


2,781 posted on 04/22/2007 2:36:14 PM PDT by debg
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To: DCPatriot

I was trying to be complimentary. My bad. Sorry. I agree with you!


2,782 posted on 04/22/2007 2:36:44 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: DCPatriot

That’s pretty much true for me. If I have to, I will vote against the worse of two evils, but I will do what I can to keep it from coming to that point.


2,783 posted on 04/22/2007 2:36:45 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: BykrBayb

Butch, you can wet yourself as much as you like, I ain’t an anti-FReeper, anywhere and you are a typically filthy for perpetuating the lie. Ping JR, butch, if your knickers are knotted. You’re a liar.


2,784 posted on 04/22/2007 2:37:06 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: BykrBayb

Instead of the childish “he said she said” BS, why not simply link to what you claim?


2,785 posted on 04/22/2007 2:37:07 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: DCPatriot

Don’t you ever read the posts to find out where it started? Or do you just look to see who’s taking sides against FReeRepublic, and assume that must be the one who is right?


2,786 posted on 04/22/2007 2:37:33 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: Syncro

Eek! The sky is falling!

;^)


2,787 posted on 04/22/2007 2:38:01 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Coopster

Oh, did the coward have to call in all his buddies to do battle for him again?


2,788 posted on 04/22/2007 2:38:17 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: garv
"I do take issue with people claiming to be conservatives who have been pushing Giuliani for months and attacking other more conservative candidates."

Good for you. They are not conservatives. They are poseurs with their own interests who want a liberal candidate they can manipulate to stack his administration with their selections. Giuliani's homeland security pick, Bernard Kerik, is now under criminal investigation. Giuliani can't claim he 'didn't know', Kerik was his business partner.

2,789 posted on 04/22/2007 2:38:35 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: VictoryGal
I sympathize with you, VictoryGal.

I'm in a conservative area in a conservative family with almost completely conservative friends.

I love this forum, but don't depend on it for sustinence.

It is for people like YOU that others need to get a grip here.

2,790 posted on 04/22/2007 2:38:36 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: Dog Gone

Glaring weaknesses? He’s Hillary Clinton in a dress! Give me a break!


2,791 posted on 04/22/2007 2:39:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Dog Gone

That post is way to reasoned for this thread and this site at this point in time.

I would appreciate it if you could throw out some hysterical insults, just to prove your worth.

;-)


2,792 posted on 04/22/2007 2:39:41 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: 68 grunt

Why should I ping JR? I’m not the one who has a belly full of things to tell him. You are. You’re just too much of a coward to tell him to his face, so you go after members of his site. You’re pathetic.


2,793 posted on 04/22/2007 2:40:16 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: The Coopster

I’m curious, too ;^)


2,794 posted on 04/22/2007 2:40:22 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: debg; Sturm Ruger

There is plenty of threads to read on FR about Fred. :) just start digging.


2,795 posted on 04/22/2007 2:40:28 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: Dog Gone

Not only have I ruled him out I’m going to hound him out. Count on it.


2,796 posted on 04/22/2007 2:40:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: BykrBayb

What in the hell are you talking about?

I have simply watched you two say the same thing back and forth for several hours.

I merely point out that the first one to post some proof of what they claim will be proven to not be a liar. It would be more efficient, if nothing else.

Sheesh.


2,797 posted on 04/22/2007 2:41:26 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: Jim Robinson
He’s Hillary Clinton in a dress!

Oh good grief, that's funny right there.

2,798 posted on 04/22/2007 2:41:45 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: BykrBayb

Butch, you’re a liar, and I’m getting offended. There is no basis in your accusation. None. You think you can lie with impunity?


2,799 posted on 04/22/2007 2:42:19 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Dog Gone
But if you allow the forum to self-destruct over his candidacy, I won't be happy. I'm not happy right now, to be honest.

How can you say the forum will self destruct over a candidate that garners 10% support in the sidebar pols? Granted that 10% makes a lot of noise.....

2,800 posted on 04/22/2007 2:42:34 PM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998.)
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