Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[trussell]

I had one friend who was so distraught that she committed suicide.

I have been through it too...and I know everytime he comes up for parole hearings, it have to relive the horror of what happened to me. The jury gave him 85 years...he’s served 16 now, and will come up for parole at least every 3 years until he is let out. When he is released, he promised to kill me.

[Salvation]

from the Catechism of the Catholic Church on abortion:

1:

CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2271  (618 bytes )  preview document matches 1 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2271.htm

97%

2:

CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2272  (580 bytes )  preview document matches 2 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2272.htm

96%

3:

CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2322  (290 bytes )  preview document matches 2 From its conception, the child has the right to life. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, is a "criminal" practice (GS 27 § 3), URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2322.htm

96%

4:	CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2274  (554 bytes )  preview document matches gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2274.htm

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

I must strongly disagree, Man50D.

I’d rather fight than switch elephants mid-stream.

If somebody produces a lot of counterfeit Coca-Cola, you shut down the bootlegger, you don’t abandon the brand name and your entire bottling, advertising and distribution network.

We need to keep the GOP and throw the infiltrators out. It’s not such scorched earth that it’s unrecoverable, believe me. It can be done, and must be done.

Much like Jim is doing here at FR.

(Insert BSF’s tagline here)

[metmom]

Wow, well said MomMD.

[flashbunny]

he was banned, not sure how he got back after that rant.

[ohioWfan]

Abandoning the unborn IS NOT a responsible or principled thing to do.

Another make up false charges guy to make yourself look like you are 'principled' yourself, I see.

Why don't you try sticking with things people have actually said?

You might find that people start trusting what you say if you don't just make things up.

I am a principled conservative.........and I see from this thread that I am in a small minority on this forum.

[Torie]

This site seems intent on breaking that compact, John. I hope this finds you well. All the best.

[stephenjohnbanker]

:I for one would never vote for a pro abort fiscal conservative even though it would benefit me financially. I refuse to sell my soul for better taxes or even the WOT. You see, I will ultimately have to explain my vote someday when I stand before God.”

There is no empirical evidence that Rudy would cut taxes, and there is ample evidence that he is weak in the WOT. For one, he broke the law, and declared NYC a “sanctuary city”

And yes, I could NEVER vote for a pro abortionist candidate.

[mware]

Nothing is wrong with her homepage, She not only talks the talk she walks the walk. She has photos from The Gathering of Eagles she also did everything she could to help fellow freepers in danger of being hit by Katrina

[trussell]

Yes, and I’m preparing to run and hide, lest I be accused of stalking and get banned.

[68 grunt]

I’ll tell you what: If you see any evidence of Fred Thompson, the Father of CFR, changing his position vis a vis that subject, and making it clear that he understands how anti-Bill of Rights his legislation was, you let me know, okay? ...

Not surprised at your preemptive sliming of FT.

[Mom MD]

This prolife freeper is a woman, as are most of the women I know. What I really do not understand is women who are prochoice after they have had a child.
I can marginal sympathy for the ignorant who are deceived, but once a woman has felt another life moving inside her and has gone through the birth process, I can only say it is the blackest of evil to be pro choice.

[DBrow]

I’m a bit late to the thread, but I’m with you, Jim; I’ll support a conservative over a pretender.

[Dstorm]

So just to catch up, What are the names of the RudyBots who have been shown the airlock?.

[Brad’s Gramma]

You waited for THREE years to post this drivel?

No wonder you make such a swell member of Clown Posse.

I realize you’re not able to post any longer, but hey.

[La Enchiladita]

Don’t forget Antoninus and flashbunny!!

;^)

[BykrBayb]

If there were any I should have replied to, but didn’t, it’s because I skipped them.

If there were any where a FReeper said, in all seriousness, that they were planning to vote for Hillary, I skipped them.

If there were any where a Rudybot said anything in agreement with The Statement by Our Founder, I skipped them.

If there were any that gave credence to the argument that Rudy is the only one who can beat Hillary, and/or fight the WOT effectively, I skipped them.

If there were any that showed the bannees should be reinstated because they uphold the values of FR, I skipped them.

[don-o]

They tell me she is not the kind of person we want and need here at FR.

What fresh hell lunacy now breaks forth? You wanna ban people because of their profile page? Is that what you are saying?

and I am sure Jim would say the same thing.

Defies comment. Speechless.

[68 grunt]

KATIE-O gone. Fine by me.

Of course, Reagan Embarrassment, that is your goal. Everyone you get gone is fine by you.

[mware]

don, I am defending Nautical Nurse.