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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Cyber Liberty

close, do I know you?


5,361 posted on 04/23/2007 2:50:01 PM PDT by OMalley (Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Nothing is more certain than that a general profligacy and corruption of manners make a people ripe for destruction. A good form of government may hold the rotten materials together for some time, but beyond a certain pitch, even the best constitution will be ineffectual, and slavery must ensue.

John Witherspoon, The Dominion of Providence Over the Passions of Men, 1776

We’re reaching that point in time. IMHO


5,362 posted on 04/23/2007 2:50:10 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: del4hope; All

I found it. Listen to Bill Clinton. Also look at 79.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1597450/posts


5,363 posted on 04/23/2007 2:51:30 PM PDT by jla
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To: processing please hold

Thanks for the support, will you be my sponsor!


5,364 posted on 04/23/2007 2:51:35 PM PDT by OMalley (Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: Jim Robinson
It seems to be off topic, but it's not.

My party of conservatives would not nominate a NARAL supporting abortionist loving, radical feminist loving gay agenda supporting, gun grabbing, illegal alien welfare sanctioning NY liberal.

I refuse to vote for that in any election. Primary, General, whatever. That's Rudy toot, McCain, and I have separate reasons on Romney, the loser (he will not fight).

I am with you, Jim.

5,365 posted on 04/23/2007 2:52:25 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Don't ask.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

He knew-but Judas hadn’t done it yet. And it had to be done to complete God’s Plan.

If you want to face God someday knowing you voted for a man who pushed perversion at every possible point, that’s up to you. I won’t do it.


5,366 posted on 04/23/2007 2:52:27 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: Jim Robinson
... Are you talking about EV? If so, you’re wrong. Or do you have someone else you’re accusing? ...

Absolutely its EVie, and I'm not wrong. There are others. If you're really so perceptually challenged I'll FReepmail you with a few of 'em.

Hey boss, I'm with you on RG, thats another reason why the phony Archie Bunkers should be exposed. Get a wee bit a credibility back and maybe we can be a wee bit of power back and maybe we can influence the primary a wee bit.

5,367 posted on 04/23/2007 2:52:38 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: MrEdd
I have as much faith in the military as anyone on this forum.

But I have come to expect such low blows from people on this thread who don't agree with me.

Apparently the lack of ability to express opinions without personal slams is the style du jour.

Congratulations on being up to snuff in that regard.

5,368 posted on 04/23/2007 2:52:48 PM PDT by ohioWfan (I'll do whatever I can to campaign for a conservative in the primaries with every fiber of my being)
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To: Lando Lincoln

When not trashing Reagan’s legacy or posting unsubstatiated accusations against more conservative candidates, the Giuliani supporters loved to invoke Reagan’s 11th commandment. Of course, Reagan himself ran against a sitting Republican president that he believed to be too liberal in 1976, but evidently it’s too difficult to make the connecton between Reagan’s actions then and the actions of those who oppose Giuliani now.


5,369 posted on 04/23/2007 2:52:54 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: OMalley

I don’t think so. Fight on!


5,370 posted on 04/23/2007 2:53:26 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Don't ask.)
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To: rbmillerjr

Yeah, sure, whatever ...


5,371 posted on 04/23/2007 2:54:16 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: OMalley

Yes, and you can be mine, kinda like a weight watchers thingy. Don’t they support their members who are trying to lose weight? AA does. Just curious. ;-)


5,372 posted on 04/23/2007 2:54:41 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: 68 grunt

EV is a DUer? That’s a laugh.


5,373 posted on 04/23/2007 2:55:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
And I’ll be doubling and redoubling my efforts to see him knocked out of the race

Hunter will appreciate your heavy donation. He needs every dime he gets. I know Robinson comes before T, so your name will show up above mine. It will be good too see you and my fellow freepers putting their money where their posts are.
5,374 posted on 04/23/2007 2:55:27 PM PDT by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: pablo H
You can search the thread your self newbee I didn’t use it to begin with. I only quoted what was already said and already used on here earlier. If you want to track down the post be my guest. Don’t post me anymore you obviously don’t have a life.
5,375 posted on 04/23/2007 2:56:05 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: garv

Yep. See my 5358.


5,376 posted on 04/23/2007 2:56:07 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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To: 68 grunt

“Yeah, sure, whatever ...”

Typical.


5,377 posted on 04/23/2007 2:56:19 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Thank you, Cyber Liberty!!


5,378 posted on 04/23/2007 2:56:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson; EternalVigilance

It’s just like DU tactics - come here, fight for conservative principles, and try to knock the most liberal republican out of the GOP race.

Makes perfect sense to me!!

The tortured logic that some people have to go through to defend Rudy is mind boggling.


5,379 posted on 04/23/2007 2:57:32 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Lando Lincoln

“We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all.” —Ronald Reagan

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.

I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.”

— Ronald Reagan, March 1, 1975

“Let us lay to rest, once and for all, the myth of a small group of ideological purists trying to capture a majority.
Replace it with the reality of a majority trying to assert
its rights against the tyranny of powerful academics, fashionable left-revolutionaries, some economic illiterates who happen to hold elective office and the social engineers who dominate the dialogue and set the format in political and social affairs.

If there is any ideological fanaticism in American political life, it is to be found among the enemies of freedom on the left or right — those who would sacrifice principle to theory, those who worship only the god of political, social and economic abstractions, ignoring the realities of everyday life. They are not conservatives.”


5,380 posted on 04/23/2007 2:57:59 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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