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The Death of Gun Control - 2007
Gun Map Organization ^ | 2007 | Staff

Posted on 05/14/2007 6:03:17 PM PDT by RKV

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To: RKV
Just as importantly, CCW holders have sufficient numbers to be a identifiable sub-group by themselves. A lot of urban CCW holders don’t hunt or plink for the simple reason they didn’t adopt those activities as youth and there are no places for urbanites to engage in them. But there they have come to understand the necessity of the 2A through concealed carry.

If this was a deliberate strategery on the part of 2A defenders, it was very wise and prescient. If not, the growth in CCW was a very fortunate accident of history. I may have come alone just in time to save the 2A from the same fate as befell the 9th and 10th Amendments.

21 posted on 05/14/2007 6:23:52 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: RKV
I love the terms under the yellow states: “. . . must be a celebrity?” For crying out loud!!!
22 posted on 05/14/2007 6:24:11 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (America has lost its mind and is on its last days as a free country & Republic.)
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To: umgud

I’ve been thinking about getting one now that we are settled here in R/C


23 posted on 05/14/2007 6:24:58 PM PDT by Starwolf
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To: Disambiguator

I’ve heard that story also. Isleton is 275 miles north of me in Sacramento County.


24 posted on 05/14/2007 6:25:29 PM PDT by umgud ("When seconds count, the police are just 10 minutes away!")
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To: Starwolf

Where is R/C?


25 posted on 05/14/2007 6:26:20 PM PDT by umgud ("When seconds count, the police are just 10 minutes away!")
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To: RKV

How the Liberals lost the gun control argument, all their lies now fall on deaf ears, except the hold out states. Got to get to work there.

Congratulations to Jeb Bush for sticking with the NRA and getting it done. Floriduh at least got this right, led the way, does it make up for the 2000 election???

I still remember the last gasp recently in Florida when the Brady bunch tried to mount a campaign to stop British tourists from coming to the wild west. They came anyway ^_^


26 posted on 05/14/2007 6:27:25 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: RKV
Observe that the very next story on FreeRepublic, in order after this one has the headline: “Poll: Most Say Ready for Next Disaster ( Women and minorities ...)”

For some people I know, 9/11 spurred them on to get their CCW, and this decision is reinforced by every attack here in the US that hints at being jihadist in nature.

LIke Baghdad Bob shouting “lies, all lies!”, the louder the authorities assure us that some attacks don’t have “any connection” with “terrorism”, the plainer it is that some of these attacks were carried out by jihadist-wannabes.

Life is just not as simple, nor as risk free as it used to be. Scripture carries the warning: he who has an ear, let him hear. The Boy Scouts say: be prepared.

The Left says both are voices that we don’t want to hear. Lalalalalalala, I can’t hear your warning. The left, worries about drowning in a warm rising ocean and laughs at people who take prudent precautions for risks that are real and contemporary, not theoretical and far in the future. Who is wise and who may die stupid?

27 posted on 05/14/2007 6:39:03 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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In California, by law you may carry an unconceiled weapon, but, for all practical purposes, it may not be loaded. Of course, you will be relieved of your unloaded, unconceiled weapon and, for a period, your freedom when confronted by an LEO for doing so.


28 posted on 05/14/2007 6:42:11 PM PDT by Database
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Bingo! It should be up to the state to prove that you aren’t entitled to carry a weapon, not up to you to prove that you should be allowed to be armed.

I am in Florida. I was convicted of a felony 45 years ago, when I was 19-years-old. I was granted a full and complete, unconditional pardon 35 years ago, but it would still require a great deal of red tape and bother for me to have even a hope of getting a concealed weapon permit.

29 posted on 05/14/2007 6:59:44 PM PDT by jwpjr
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Two words - OPEN CARRY. It really ought to be the law of the land based on the 2nd Amendment (at a minimum). Personally, I think concealed carry is better, since the bad guys will hide guns anyway. Better not to let them know who’s packing.


30 posted on 05/14/2007 7:11:07 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: umgud

Understood. I grew up in Fresno County and its the same.


31 posted on 05/14/2007 7:11:51 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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Well, I wouldn’t say that its precisely wishful thinking since 2/3s of Americans can now actually enjoy their 2nd Amendment Rights. I am quite sensitive to your comment since I live behinde “enemy lines” myself. It is encouraging to see the progress, and now lets go finish the job.


32 posted on 05/14/2007 7:16:05 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: umgud

That’s right. Kern county is what contains Bakersfield.


33 posted on 05/14/2007 7:21:26 PM PDT by Disambiguator (If it weren't for bad puns, we wouldn't have no puns at all.)
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To: 50mm

i don’t really want to live in the republic of daley but considering a move. was thinking about wis or utah, but money is the problem since i have retired.


34 posted on 05/14/2007 7:28:54 PM PDT by alfie (peace through superior firepower)
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To: umgud

Ridgecrest. The high tech portion of Kern County which the Bakersfield Bubbas love to ignore and underfund.


35 posted on 05/14/2007 7:37:55 PM PDT by Starwolf
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To: 50mm

Another twist on your question - would you turn down a job in a non-”shall-issue” state? I would.


36 posted on 05/14/2007 7:39:21 PM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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Yes I would. I refuse to live in states where the residents allow trampling of the constitution. I once turned down a job in Taxachussetts because I refuse to live in the same state as the swimmer and those who re-elect murderers.


37 posted on 05/14/2007 8:26:58 PM PDT by 50mm (algore uses 20 times as much energy as me)
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The wording of my post didn't convey what I intended. I meant to emphasize the insanity of disarming law-abiding citizens and declaring open season on them. I hope you find a way to move to a safer state soon as criminals are much more likely to victimize the retired - especially the disarmed retired.

Sorry for seeming so callous in my previous post.

38 posted on 05/14/2007 8:41:25 PM PDT by 50mm (algore uses 20 times as much energy as me)
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To: umgud
I’m in Kern County. It’s as good as “Shall Issue”. We have over 4,400 permits issued for a population of around 600K. More than any county in the state.

And just north of Kern County is Inyo County with a population of around 18,000 and is also a "shall issue" county. We also have a lot of hunters here with rifles and shotguns carried in rifle racks in pickups and an extremely low crime rate.

39 posted on 05/14/2007 9:07:41 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: umgud
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Gotta love the Valley. Was born and raised in the Peoples Republic (Santa Cruz-Akkk!) but escaped 24 years ago, LOL!

40 posted on 05/14/2007 9:35:30 PM PDT by IYellAtMyTV (Workday Forecast--Increasing pressure towards afternoon. Rum likely by evening.)
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