Manhattan Institute's Tamar Jacoby defends the immigration bill.

Hugh Hewitt Show ^ | 5/31/07 | Tamar Jacoby / Hugh Hewitt

[EagleUSA]

“This bill, nobody’s completely happy with this bill, right?”
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The first opening line, that always says it all. They typical lead-in when trying to support something that IS BAD AND TOTALLY UNPOPULAR. Kill this thing, before it kills America.

[goldstategop]

Its an amnesty bill and no amount of spin from Open Borders shills will change that fact. It deserves to be killed.

Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[Valin]

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Tamar Jacoby

Hewitt: Hour 1 - Hugh returns to the immigration bill with the Manhattan Institute’s Tamar Jacoby, who is one of the more articulate proponents of the immigration bill.

[ClearCase_guy]

Yes, there is the myth that if everyone hates the bill then it must be even-handed, bipartisan, and an excellent compromise on a divisive issue.

Or it could just totally suck.

[shekkian]

Who is the Manhattan Institute, and why should I care what they think?

[johnny7]

It was created in a back room because it stunk so bad... and because of this... it deserves to die in public.

[Calpernia]

Members of the Manhattan Institute were (or are) anti war activists too.

Think tank helps Giuliani set his agenda (1998)

Excerpt:

>>>Magnet, 53, was a graduate student at Columbia University during the 1960s protests. "I marched against the Vietnam War, which I don't regret," he recalled. "I helped barricade a building at Columbia, which I do." He noticed his friends getting more and more "paranoid . . . talking about America with three K's." He drifted rightward while teaching Columbia's freshman course on contemporary civilization, immersing himself in Locke, Rousseau, and Hobbes.<

[TornadoAlley3]

The fix is in, this insane bill is going to pass.

[tumblindice]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamar_Jacoby

“More recently, Jacoby’s career has been marked by an outspoken advocacy for policies that would liberalize America’s immigration laws-which she believes is an essential policy shift in order to maintain the economic growth of the United States while preventing a brain drain to other nations-specifically, the passage of a broad guest-worker program, which some critics have described as an amnesty proposal.”

Lefty Knuckle-head Alert!
Key Words: “liberalize” “advocate” “brain-drain” “guest worker” “amnesty”

[ClaireSolt]

Hewitt seems to be too skeptical about the background checks. Heck, you can get them done on the internet, now.

[Altura Ct.]

“Tamar Jacoby defends the immigration bill. “

Boy, there is a news flash. She is an OBL from way back. Has been a cheerleader for illegal immigration since day one. She is a regular on the issue in the Wash Post and LA Times if that tells you anything.

[Unam Sanctam]

If you pay a penalty, it is not amnesty. The demagogues who will not accept any sort of compromise whatsoever never respond to that with a rational answer, but just proceed to to call people names. And if you’re not going to deport 12 million people, an action for which there will be no political will, then it is better to have the 12 million legalized and in the system and to improve border security and employment identification checks, as the current bill does. The bill also restricts extended family based immigration by removing several categories, but that is of course never mentioned by the opponents. Legalization will help with assimilation of the 12 million. Incremental improvements in border security and enforcement is the best we can hope for to improve processing for the future in the context of a cumbersome bureaucracy. But of course, one can’t possible do anything practical about a real problem so far as the opponents of the bill are concerned. They would prefer the status quo of limited enforcement and an increasing subclass of unassimilated illegal aliens.

[dennisw]

Hugh is playing rope a dope with that crazy open borders Tamar Jacoby

[dennisw]

If you pay a penalty, it is not amnesty. The demagogues who will not accept any sort of compromise........

Why don't you tell me what the penalty is when an illegal gets his probationary Z VISA? Do you know?
Once he gets that probationary Z VISA he is legal. He is home free. He doesn't have to do anymore though he can eventually apply for green card and citizenship. Not that I know why he would even bother

[taxed2death]

“If you pay a penalty, it is not amnesty.”

Wrong. Offering a pathway to citizenship is amnesty.

Therefore it is not a compromise.

Do you have any idea where the trillions of dollars this will cost come from? Hint: The taxpayer.

The public is overwhelmingly against this bill. The numbers of people who are against it is growing every day.

Tighten border security, have strict workplace enforcement and the illegals will self deport. This has been proven time and time again to work. Whenever there’s a raid on a company...the local shanty towns are vacated overnight.

The bill provides for 60+million to emigrate under the family plan.

The whorehouse admits to 20+ million here illegally.

See here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1768750/posts?page=1

You might want to try a little less BS and come up with some facts next time.

[Unam Sanctam]

Why don't you tell me what the penalty is when an illegal gets his probationary Z VISA?

They have to pay the thousand dollars, and they have to continue to comply with the requirements of the Z visa to retain the visa, thus if they are unemployed and go on welfare, they will no longer be in status.

[WOSG]

TJ, pro-amensty shill: “This bill, nobody’s completely happy with this bill, right?”
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“The first opening line, that always says it all. They typical lead-in when trying to support something that IS BAD AND TOTALLY UNPOPULAR. Kill this thing, before it kills America.”

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It does say it all. This is the elites version of “this will hurt me more than it will hurt you. now take your spanking like a good boy.” But we are not children. We don’t HAVE to accept something we do NOT like. We don’t HAVE to turn 12 million illegal immigrants into citizens. TO retort the question of “what will you do with them?” Let us start with:
1. we would build a wall so we dont get more numbers to add to them. When the boat is leaking, start by plugging the leak.
2. We would check soc security #s reported to the IRS and compare and send notes to the employers of such suspect individuals, notifying them of possible discrepancies.
3. We would implement further employment verification. And we then actually get ICE to start enforcing the law, seriously.
4. We would get local law enforcement to notify Federal govt of immigration status of arrestees and those in jail. We would deport all criminal aliens pronto, saving money, space , and lowering local crime rates.
5. We would end the anchor baby problem by passing a law that restates conditions of citizenship. there is no birthright citizenship to children of parents who are not legal US residents (eg on tourist visas).

we do all of the above and THEN we can discuss the ‘what to do with illegal immigrants in our midst’.

Kill this bill and come up with a bill that WOULD BE something more people would be happy with.