Romney Can't Ignore Questions About Mormonism

RealClearPolitics ^ | 8/20/2007 | Mark Davis

[xzins]

A group of congregations or wards, generally about three thousand to five thousand members in five to ten congregations.

Stake doesn't compare to a regional bishop in the mainlines or the catholics, which I'm talking about.

[TChris]

I oppose him based on his past actions...not his religious beliefs.

Thanks for a sane and reasoned position on the subject.

[colorcountry]

I am not all that familiar with the Catholic heirarchy.

“A stake is an administrative unit composed of multiple congregations in denominations of the Latter Day Saint movement. A stake is approximately comparable to a diocese in the Catholic Church and other Christian denominations. “

From Wikepedia....

Who is it that is over a Catholic Diocese? Is it not a Catholic Bishop?

[elizabetty]

A man's morality, values and character are far more important than his religion when it comes to public servants.

We have scores of "good Christians" who attend pre-aproved churches who get caught cheating on their spouses, embezzling, selling influence and votes, molesting children, raising taxes.....etc.

Is the disposition of a man's soul really what voters should concern themselves with?

Indeed, morality trumps religion in public servants.

[xzins]

Seminary....I’m speaking of post-graduate programs that offer Masters & Doctorate degrees and are accredited by recognized accrediting agencies.

I’m fairly sure about Mormons and the common understanding of seminary due to my association with some Mormon Chaplain Colleagues prior to my retirement. The Army required the equivalent of a Seminary Masters if there were no Seminary Masters program, and the Mormons generally had Masters degrees in other fields.

I’m willing to accept that that might have changed and/or that I’m wrong.

[lolhelp]

You need to get off Long Island more.

[colorcountry]

The point I am making is that Mormonism DOES provide upper education in Seminaries of their own creation. What it is an equivalent of....I do not know.

But to suggest that Mitt is ignorant of the LDS doctrine after attending eight years of LDS Seminary, serving a two year LDS mission, serving as local ecclesiastical leader (bishop)on two separated occasions, and being theStake President who presides over approximately 10 congregations is patently untrue. Mitt know more about Mormonism than perhaps 1 out of 5000 Mormons know. He is one of the leaders.

[Long Island Pete]

Didnt get the sarcasm huh?

[lady lawyer]

You’re exactly right. Seminary is for high school kids.

FYI, Colorcountry’s name is still on the Mormon church rolls, according to her, but she has become a critic of the Mormon church. She was raised a Mormon, and uses that background to lend weight to her attacks on the church. A useful bit of information when you are evaluating anything she says.

[lolhelp]

I am a Catholic and don not drink, religion has nothing to do with my decision, have seen too many problems caused by drinking and do not want to partake of any thing that is mind altering, including alcholic beverages, dope and a lot of prescription medications. But boy do I love coffee!!!

[xzins]

My bishop is over 1200 churchs and 300,000 people.

Since there are approx. 2000 Catholic Dioceses in the USA, and there are approximately 60 million Catholics, then each diocese has about 30,000 people.

[JRochelle]

Here is an interesting story of how Mormons are traveling south of the border, to Mexico, to search for evidence of the Book of Mormon.

http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/metro/190030.php

[Turret Gunner A20]

RE: # 38

I’ll give a try. Christians believe Jesus Christ is God. Mormon doctrine “perverts” this message in such a radical way that voting for a Mormon is traitorous to Jesus Christ.

Would you mind giving us a citation for Mormon Doctrine for that?

[colorcountry]

The Roman Catholic Church is likey hundreds times larger than the LDS Church. I would gather the Mitt was over the congregations of all of Massachusetts (or wherever he held his position). There is only one Stake in Massachusetts http://www.gatheringofisrael.com/atlas/north_america/united_states/MA_massachusetts.gif.

Today, Catholics in Utah number well over a hundred thousand, including 63 parishes and missions, and 17 Catholic schools. An area of nearly 85,000 square miles comprises the Diocese of Salt Lake City.

[Turret Gunner A20]

RE: # 41

But Mormons claim to worship Christ. Are they lying?

No, they are not. Those who claim that are the liars.

[bigcat32]

“Would you mind giving us a citation for Mormon Doctrine for that?”

Are you a Mormon? Please answer my questions to a Mormon posted on #51. Thanks.

[colorcountry]

FYI, no one on FR knows the status of my LDS membership. All I have said is that I was born into an LDS home, baptized at age 8 and Temple married. I also said I recently sent a letter of resignation to Church headquarters and have since met with my Bishop. I have never posted as to what my current status is.

How exactly do you know the status of my LDS membership?

[broncobilly]

It seems to me Romney is caught in a “Damned if you do” and “Damned if you don’t” dilemma.
One interesting aspect of this question is that I have never heard of a Mormon asking a Presbterian, Baptist, Methodist, or Episcopalian to justify that their faith would not interfere with their role as president.
And if Romney is eliminated on that basis, then what right does the Republican Party have to expect votes from Mormons for another candidate and his whatever faith.
It seems to me the “peculiarities” of a faith are not as important as what those “peculiarities” engender or lead to. And it seems to me that in the case of Mormonism, these “peculiarities” all lead to conservative, Republican values. That should be reassuring rather than divisive.

[Turret Gunner A20]

RE: #45 You’ve just opened up a large can of worms my friend. In short, the Jesus Christ of Christianity and the Jesus Christ of Mormonism or two different people with two completely different natures.

Please explaim what those two natures are -- with citations to authority.

[bigcat32]

“Please explaim what those two natures are — with citations to authority”

Please answer my questions in post #51 to another Mormon. Thank you.