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Turk Warns Against House (Islamic massacring 1.5 Million Christians) 'Genocide' Motion
NYTimes ^ | Oct. 2007

Posted on 10/14/2007 9:22:22 PM PDT by PRePublic

Turk Warns Against House 'Genocide' Motion

By SEBNEM ARSU Published: October 15, 2007 ISTANBUL, Oct. 14 — The chief of the Turkish armed forces has warned that military relations with the United States would take a negative turn if Congress approved the Armenian genocide resolution that was passed by the House Foreign Affairs Committee last week.

Gen. Yasar Buyukanit, the armed forces chief, was quoted by the newspaper Milliyet on Sunday as saying that the resolution, which condemns the killings of 1.5 million Armenians by Ottoman Turks beginning in 1915 as an act of genocide, has caused considerable disappointment in Turkey. He called the passage of the resolution by the committee “sad and sorrowful,” in light of the strong links the two NATO allies have shared.

Further, if it were to be passed by the full House of Representatives, “our military relations with the U.S. would never be as they were in the past,” he said. “We could not explain this to our public,” he said. “The U.S., in that respect, has shot itself in the foot.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; 1915; aclu; armeniangenocide; armenians; christians; genocide; history; hlp; islam; kongragel; muslims; ottomanempire; pkk; turky
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What do FreePers think:

should the House vote to categorize the Islamic massacre 1.5 Million Christians Armenians

as "Genocide", Or we need then in fighting the more radical Islamists?

1 posted on 10/14/2007 9:22:28 PM PDT by PRePublic
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To: PRePublic

Look, it was genocide; but beating up and humiliating our allies and being wimpish to our enemies is what the Democrat foreign policy is all about.

The measure was taken to make President Bush’s foreign policy more difficult to achieve.


2 posted on 10/14/2007 9:24:49 PM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality"--Ayn Rand)
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To: Roy Tucker

Thanks for your opinion, I admit I have difficulties with it, logic FOR it and AGAINST it, one of the most powerful reasons not to go ahead with it is... since it’s a “democrat” issue... to begin with.


3 posted on 10/14/2007 9:27:44 PM PDT by PRePublic (Islamic Hamas kidnapped Johnston & then "freed" him)
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To: PRePublic

The glee of Nancy and company could only be surpassed by the NYTs and the WP. If we’re going to use guided munitions over this, I suggest we start there.


4 posted on 10/14/2007 9:28:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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US Tries To Halt Turkey Attack
5 posted on 10/14/2007 9:34:24 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: PRePublic

ask yourselves why this is happening now.


6 posted on 10/14/2007 9:34:31 PM PDT by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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Turkey is about to attack Northern Iraq and we are asking them not to.

This comes at a very bad time

7 posted on 10/14/2007 9:34:51 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: PRePublic

This genocide is already acknowledged in history books. There is no purpose, other than the Democrats agenda of sabotaging foreign relations, in senate passing such a motion.

In fact each of those responsible for this act should be charged with espionage, or crimes against the nation of some sort, and removed from office, fined, and thrown in prison.

If we had Republicans with some spine, this would be the ONLY topic in both houses until charges are laid.


8 posted on 10/14/2007 9:34:53 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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Democrats don’t have a history of defending any attacks on Christians.
this means this bill is an attempt to cause the Truks to cross the Iraq border.
Tis is an act of Treason by the Democrat Party, they are fighting to undermine this War with legislation intended to inflame the Turks and goad them into disruptive actions that can only worsen the War and cause more loss of American Soldiers
the Democrats are seditious Traitors.


9 posted on 10/14/2007 9:35:24 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: PRePublic

President Bush goes to bed each night wondering, “ what hell else could go wrong”, wakes up to his morning briefing and finds out the answer to his late night question. No wonder his hair is getting grey.


10 posted on 10/14/2007 9:36:14 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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should the House vote to categorize the Islamic massacre 1.5 Million Christians Armenians

Since that's what it was-yes.

11 posted on 10/14/2007 9:39:08 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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What do FreePers think:

  1. It was indeed genocide. Everyone knows this.
  2. The perfidious Turks closed our planned northern front in the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
  3. They are still strongly secular, and if we rub their noses in it, we risk strengthening the hand of the Islamists.

In many ways it parallels the situation with Musharraf in Pakistan. He's a bastard, but he's our bastard, and the alternative is worse.

-ccm

12 posted on 10/14/2007 9:41:34 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: processing please hold
"Since that's what it was-yes.
13 posted on 10/14/2007 9:45:19 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: processing please hold
"Since that's what it was-yes.

Then why wasn't this done long ago. Why is it suddenly important now? The fact is, it isn't. The fact is, there is only ONE reason for the RAT's to pull a stunt like this now, and that is to sabotage our efforts in Iraq. That is high treason, nothing less.

14 posted on 10/14/2007 9:45:53 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: PRePublic

We (collectively, the U.S. public) complain about Iran “helping” the Iraqi dissidents while conveniently forgetting that we gave a great deal of aid and arms to the Taliban to use against the Russians.
This is more of the same: bitching about what the Turks did 90 years ago while forgetting what we did to the American Indians 150 years ago.
“He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”


15 posted on 10/14/2007 9:46:59 PM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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The House could have passed this resolution when Jimmy Carter, FDR or Woodrow Wilson was president. The timing makes it appear Democrats are, as they do daily, sabotaging the U.S. military and the war in Iraq.


16 posted on 10/14/2007 9:47:46 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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Shouldn’t this be a job for historians and not the US House?


17 posted on 10/14/2007 9:57:27 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: oldfart

Huh?
What in the world does that have to do with what what the RATS are doing now?

And BTW, Indians weren’t angelic creatures. They were barbaric murdering heathens that did their fair share of looting raping and scalping. living in harmony with “mother earth’ is revisionist Indian folklore. They ran entire herds of buffalo off cliffs.


18 posted on 10/14/2007 9:59:13 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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"Speaker Nancy Pelosi has been making statements advocating the recognition of the Armenian Genocide for 20 years. Besides, when I contacted her last November, before she was elected Speaker, she stated that she had been advocating the recognition of the Armenian Genocide for many years and intended to do so in the next year as well," [says Harut Sassounian President of the United Armenian Fund]

Here's more from the President of the United Armenian Fund..

"The Turkish side is well aware that the step to follow the admission of the Armenian Genocide by Turkey will be a demand for compensation and return of the lands. This is the reason why Turkey will not admit the Armenian Genocide . . . [actually] the admission of the Armenian Genocide is of no value. Our demands are: Turkey must compensate for the damages and return our lands. Our demands do not depend on the recognition of the Armenian Genocide before going on to the next steps. This is the reason that a symposium recently was held at the University of Southern California. Renowned specialists in international law were invited. They explained the rights the Armenian people have under international law, and to which courts Armenians could apply to settle this issue. Now specialists must study the lawyers’ advice and decide which issue should be submitted to which court, as there is the International Court of Justice, European Court of Human Rights, US Federal Courts, etc. This is a most important issue. It mmust be studied with all seriousness, because, if we lose in court, Turkey will claim that Armenians have no legal demands."

The whole Resolution 106 thing is a ruse, a game. Armenia already had started the steps to get damages and return of their lands.

While we all condemn time after time what sure looks like genocide we find that Armenia is messing with the national security of our Country by stirring up trouble between us and Turkey needlessly.

19 posted on 10/14/2007 10:02:45 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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The turks were murders and committed genocide. If a bunch of turks can't handle the fact they committed genocide then

they are no ally.

20 posted on 10/14/2007 10:04:03 PM PDT by Porterville (I'm an American. If you hate Americans, I hope our enemies destroy you. I will pray for my soul.)
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