Posted on 10/14/2007 10:41:22 PM PDT by freedomdefender
Perhaps the best response came from the Anti-Defamation League, which called Coulter's comments "outrageous, offensive and a throwback to the centuries-old teaching of contempt for Jews and Judaism. The notion that Jews are religiously inferior or imperfect because they do not accept Christian beliefs was the basis for 2,000 years of church-based anti-Semitism. While she is entitled to her beliefs, using mainstream media to espouse the idea that Judaism needs to be replaced with Christianity and that each individual Jew is somehow deficient and needs to be "perfected" is rank Christian supersessionism and has been rejected by the Catholic Church and the vast majority of mainstream Christian denominations. Clearly, Ann Coulter needs a wake-up call about the power of words to injure others and fuel hatred. She needs an education, too, about the roots of anti-Semitism."
That she does. As the league points out, "supersessionism," the theological notion that Christianity "completes" or "perfects" Judaism is, along with the deicide libel, anti-Semitism's major theological underpinning. Indeed, in Central and Western Europe between the world wars, there was a substantial body of purportedly "respectable" intellectual opinion that held "supersessionism" made possible a "reasonable" theological anti-Semitism that was entirely licit, as opposed to the Nazis' and fascists' illicit, "racially based" anti-Semitism. It is fair to say that the rails leading to Auschwitz were greased by precisely the opinion Coulter expressed on American television this week.
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Sorry, the word for past tense to be is Hawyah.
“Also, the King James translators used the Original Hebrew and Greek tongues, so it is not a translation from a translation.”
It is a translation with an agenda. It is also a language that is 400 years old, and often uses euphemisms, for example, Exodus, Chapter XXI, verses 22-25, King James delicately translates Yelodehah as “her fruit” when it is more properly translated as “her child.” It has been used to support a prochoice position, when it is more clearly a pro-life statement, if translated properly. I’m sure the King James translator did not intend it to be so, but, the old English frequently used euphemisms.
I’ve claimed it to be a translation with an agenda. translators wanting to prove the Christian perspective would translate to support that position. I had to learn Hebrew grammar. It was drummed in to me that the present tense of the verb “to be” is implied, but that other tenses were not. Tthat could,itself, be an agenda, but there you are. We agree to disagree. You think I am going to hell, and I think, in your ignorance, you are excused.
It is a translation with an agenda. It is also a language that is 400 years old, and often uses euphemisms, for example, Exodus, Chapter XXI, verses 22-25, King James delicately translates Yelodehah as “her fruit” when it is more properly translated as “her child.” It has been used to support a prochoice position, when it is more clearly a pro-life statement, if translated properly. I’m sure the King James translator did not intend it to be so, but, the old English frequently used euphemisms.
You stated that it was a translation from a translation, which is incorrect.
As for the euphemism in Exod.21:22, the ASV has the same one, fruit.
The use of the word fruit doesn't change the meaning of the sentence, since it stands for child.
The passage is dealing with a premature birth, which the infant survives (no mischief follows)
I’ve claimed it to be a translation with an agenda. translators wanting to prove the Christian perspective would translate to support that position. I had to learn Hebrew grammar. It was drummed in to me that the present tense of the verb “to be” is implied, but that other tenses were not. Tthat could,itself, be an agenda, but there you are. We agree to disagree. You think I am going to hell, and I think, in your ignorance, you are excused.
Well, Zeph.1:10 has to be translated as 'shall be', as it is stated in a Jewish English translation, the TANAKAH, so you clearly have not studied issue that well.
Maybe you need to ask your teacher about that verse.
It took me all of 10 minutes to find it.
If you have not accepted Christ as your personal saviour, it is not I who say you are going to hell, but Him!
BTW, I notice that you McCarthy lovers never address the Army-McCarthy hearings. I bet you just can't bear to hear your idol try to trash the Army because they wouldn't give Roy Cohn's playmate a commission.
The LATimes is anti-Semitic. Normally they’d be celebrating.
But they know they are misrepresenting what Ann said.
you are free to believe as you do.
Dear Phony Journalist at the LA Times,
When Ann Coulter hijacks a commercial airliner and flies it into a synagogue, get back to me on this, m'kay?
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greasing the wheels: 49,400”
Thank you for the post, even though I’m waaaay in the minority, at least I’m not completely alone:-)
Thank you and so are you.
But if the Bible is right, then you will have all of eternity to mourn your decision.
The NAZIs considered themselves to be a Germanic pagan rooted race which completely disregarded Judaism and Christianity as perversions of their pagan roots.
Yes, there were cases of mass killings in the Old Testament as the Hebrew nation was commanded to enter the land and completely destroy some races within the land, because they had become so perverse as a race that they would serve no ggod purpose by continuing. The disobedience of Saul in not slaughtering every man, woman, child, and infant was met by divine discipline upon the nation.
This was not the same as a group or rac of people who decide they will improve themselves by mass slaughter, as that is an attempt by man to create his own perfect environment instead of relying on what God provides.
Interestingly enough, Ann Coulter wrote an entire book on just this topic.
Cheers!
I found her book Treason to give a good account of the communist infiltration of the US; and to counteract the "Newspeak" usage of the word McCarthyism.
So what's your problem with her accounts of McCarthy?
Cheers!
After some thinking on the topic this last week, I believe the pertinent issue in the Coulter contention is reconciliation.
God is never reconciliated to man, rather man must be reconciled to God for spiritual fellowship to be possible.
Ephesians Chapter 2 is really some of the best pertinent guidance I’ve found in resolving the misunderstood contention between Judaism and Christianity.
Man is reconciled to God through the work of Christ on the Cross.
It is also interesting that the Greek vocabulary used in describing reconciliation also describes the actions of removing a barrier or enmity between God and Man, or actually the only true belief system of peace between God and man.
Incidentally, you could try reading this book on the Nazis.
If I remember right, it contains quotes from contemporary German schoolbooks such as, "Hitler and Jesus were both persecuted, but while Jesus was crucified, Hitler went on to become Chancellor."
NO believing Christian would endorse that...!
Cheers!
She attempts to make a hero out of a fraud. Guys like Nixon, Hoover and a lot of faceless guys in intelligence and law enforcement did all the heavy lifting where exposing the Reds in our Government was concerned, McCarthy just went along for the ride. Full of arrogance and alcohol, he suggested that General George C. Marshall was a traitor, and tried to take on the US Army because they wouldn't give notorious homosexual Roy Cohn's boy toy a commission he didn't merit. Other than that, he was probably a hell of guy.
“Man is reconciled to God through the work of Christ on the Cross.”
Man is reconciled to G-d, by loving him and blessing His Name, and refraning from profanation. How does one do that? By following His Law.
Exactly.
Moses wrote Genesis. This is why such people will jump up and down screaming when the Ten Commandments are displayed or the Creationist idea of monogamy from the book of Genesis is introduced.
The latter (Genesis) also ruins the illogical and non-biological arguments of homosexual monogamy. In a secular sense, homosexuality is an idolatry of perversion.
It is in no way an anatomical function of the human organism, but a phantasmagoric creation from within the mentally disturbed human mind, a social psychosis, naked and on full exhibitionist display.
This is the whole crux (pun intended) of their attack on creationism - - they are really frustrated by Genesis, but cannot destroy the axiomatic state of procreant human biology, it does not fit their religious agenda.
Homosexual monogamy advocates seek ceremonious sanctification of their anatomical perversions and esoteric absolution for their guilt-ridden, impoverished egos.
Neither of those will satisfy their universal dissatisfaction with mortality or connect them to something eternal. With pantheons of fantasies as their medium of infinitization, they still have nothing in them of reality, any more than there is in the things that seem to stand before us in a dream.
Homosexual deviancy is really a pagan practice (and a self-induced social psychosis) at war with the Judaic culture over what is written in the book of Genesis (1:27, 2:18). This is exactly what the National Socialists were at war with... so, when someone uses the term "Gaystapo," they might not realize how close to the truth they really are, especially if you consider the NAZI eugenic breeding programs.
Many will seek ceremonious sanctification and esoteric absolution in some type of marriage rite, but that still fails to give them a connection to the eternal in both a religious and temporal, procreant sense - - the union does not produce offspring. Dissatisfaction with inevitable mortality only feeds the impoverishment of the ego further. Homosexuals really hate human life; their whole desire is rooted in the destruction of it...
Abortion is akin to slavery... life to be bought and sold... Contemplate the religious fervor associated with the pro-abortion advocacy. The societal practice of abortion is ritual mass murder upon the altars of conceit dedicated to idolatrous vanities, a collective human sacrifice before pagan idols. It has a similitude to the Teutonic paganism of Adolph Hitler (whose idolatry was the idea of a "master race," among other things). In effect, these genocides are a mass human sacrifice to those pagan idols. The abortionists, like the National Socialists, incinerate the remains of their victims.
Aleister Crowley, who openly supported the National Socialists, was affiliated with Ordo Templi Orientis, Golden Dawn, A.A. (Order of the Silver Star) and other such occult lodges all across Germany. Crowley engaged in all manner of deviancy, homoeroticism, sadomasochism and murder. Much of the occultism in National Socialism is derived directly from there.
Crowley envisioned himself as the Great Beast (Το Μεγα Θηριον), just as der Fuhrer made himself in that image. Hitler's life as a struggling, inept artist was where that association blossomed. Crowley's creed, "Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the Law," (which is actually from Francois Rabelais) and used by Neo-Pagan nutcases without attribution for obvious politically correct reasons, is with certainty no different than the National Socialist "will to power," or their ubermensch mentality.
It is also no accident Nietzsche's "over-man" and nihilist philosophy and resulting insanity from venereal disease closely mirrors the insanity of der Fuhrer. These occult orders, sex and drug cults still survive today, as do the Neo-pagan, Neo-Nazi groups, black supremacist Rastafarian potheads, prison gangs and other related filth. Crowley occultism is also from where L. Ron Hubbard emerges with Scientology. Note the NAZI symbolism of that kooky cult of weirdoes and their deviant adherents.
Hollywood Cultural Marxists love Scientology. Ah, Hollywood is the fountain of fantastical images, perverts and hypocrisies! It is by no accident the Cultural Marxists of Hollywood are flaming haters of America, Israel and Christendom, and who also advocate the most bizarre and psychotic. Germany cracked down hard on the Scientologists for that reason and because they are using similar mind control techniques as the NAZIs...
A most Jewish text...
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