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Poll: Thompson, Clinton widen their leads in Georgia
The Savannah Morning News ^ | October 25, 2007 | Larry Peterson

Posted on 10/28/2007 6:32:12 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Presidential hopeful Fred Thompson has soared to a nearly 2-to-1 lead over his closest Republican rival in the latest statewide poll.

In survey results announced Wednesday by Strategic Vision, the former U.S. senator from Tennessee led Rudy Giuliani, 39 percent to 20 percent.

Thompson added 4 percentage points to the advantage he enjoyed over the former New York mayor in a Strategic Vision poll taken last month.

All the other Republican candidates are in single digits.

Meanwhile, U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York widened her lead over U.S. Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois in the Democratic campaign.

Clinton led Obama, 40 percent to 27 percent.

Former North Carolina senator John Edwards was a distant third at 11 percent. No other Democrat had more than 5 percent.

Clinton's increasing strength in Georgia reflects a trend demonstrated by national polls and surveys in other states.

In Georgia, Clinton is outpolling Obama even among his fellow African-Americans, said David E. Johnson, chief executive officer of Strategic Vision.

Thompson's dominance in the Peach State stands out against his numbers in other states, which have been mostly flat in recent weeks.

"Much of this can be attributed to former supporters of Newt Gingrich going for Thompson, now that Gingrich is officially out of the race," Johnson said.

Gingrich, a Georgian and a former U.S. House speaker, was backed by 9 percent of the Republicans surveyed by Strategic Vision in September.

University of Georgia political science professor Charles Bullock speculated that much of Thompson's support might be coming from north Georgia.

He's likely to be especially well-known there, Bullock said, because of exposure in the Chattanooga media market, based in the candidate's home state.

Johnson confirmed that Thompson's support was strongest in north Georgia and in southern Georgia, including Savannah.

Giuliani, he said, did relatively well in the Atlanta metropolitan area.

Many Chatham County elected officials, including all of the area's GOP state legislators, have endorsed Thompson.

Johnson cited the numbers of undecided voters - 13 percent of the Republicans and 12 percent of the Democrats.

That's "fairly high" this close to primary elections that begin in January and suggests that the numbers are still subject to change, he said.

Bullock restated what many others have said: Georgia's Feb. 5 primary election might not matter much.

In both parties, he said, it's at least possible that one of the candidates, especially Clinton, may build up unstoppable momentum in earlier contests.

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LATEST statewide STRATEGIC VISION POLL*

Republicans

Fred Thompson, 39 percent

Rudy Giuliani, 20 percent

John McCain, 9 percent

Mike Huckabee, 7 percent

Mitt Romney, 6 percent

Ron Paul, 3 percent

Tom Tancredo, 2 percent

Duncan Hunter, 1 percent

Undecided, 13 percent

Democrats

Hillary Clinton, 40 percent

Barack Obama, 27 percent

John Edwards, 11 percent

Bill Richardson, 5 percent

Joseph Biden, 3 percent

Chris Dodd, 1 percent

Dennis Kucinich, 1 percent

Undecided, 12 percent

* Oct. 19-21 survey that included 368 Republicans voters and 328 Democrats, all considered "likely voters." Margin of error for those groups, plus or minus 6.5 percent.

Source: Strategic Vision


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: Georgia; US: Illinois; US: New York; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: 2008; barackhusseinobama; barackobama; conservatism; conservatives; democratparty; democrats; duncanhunter; election; electionpresident; elections; fredthompson; ga2008; gop; hillaryclinton; johnedwards; johnmccain; mikehuckabee; mittromney; polls; primaries; republicans; ronpaul; rudygiuliani
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Sure looks like Fred Thompson's campaign is "imploding" huh?
1 posted on 10/28/2007 6:32:13 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anything that shows erosion in support for a liberal like Giuliani is a good thing-—a VERY GOOD THING indeed!!!


2 posted on 10/28/2007 6:33:48 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sure looks like Fred Thompson's campaign is "imploding" huh?

Polls are always interesting and if the GA results are part of a larger trend this could be important, but as the article states, since the GA primary is not until Feb 5th, this won't have much of an impact on the race.
3 posted on 10/28/2007 6:36:58 AM PDT by Veronica Mars
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To: Veronica Mars

With the other state primaries so early, will the GA primary even matter?


4 posted on 10/28/2007 6:38:27 AM PDT by tips up
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think this demonstrates Thompsons strength in the South, the bulwark of the Republican base.


5 posted on 10/28/2007 6:40:45 AM PDT by Dreagon
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To: tips up
With the other state primaries so early, will the GA primary even matter?

I find it unlikely to matter very much, but who knows?
6 posted on 10/28/2007 6:41:11 AM PDT by Veronica Mars
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To: Dreagon
South, the bulwark of the Republican base.

Now that makes me feel lonely up here in NY's boonies, under the rule of the beast. ;^)

7 posted on 10/28/2007 6:44:15 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Veronica Mars; tips up; All

February 5th, the day of the Georgia primary, is the so-called “Super Tuesday!” Of course wins on that day will matter. Remember, Fred is very likely to win South Carolina in January and come in strong in Iowa, and win the Florida primary on January 29th!!


8 posted on 10/28/2007 6:45:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: tioga
Now that makes me feel lonely up here in NY's boonies, under the rule of the beast. ;^)

Don't despair, we New Yorkers get front row seats to the utter collapse of Governor Spitzer and his agenda.
9 posted on 10/28/2007 6:46:17 AM PDT by Veronica Mars
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I appreciate your optimism, but if Sen. Thompson loses in Iowa and then in New Hampshire, he essentially MUST win South Carolina. It’s not as long a long shot as the scenario for Sen. McCain to win the nomination, but it looks a lot more realistic for either Guiliani or Romney to win it all.


10 posted on 10/28/2007 6:49:40 AM PDT by Veronica Mars
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To: Veronica Mars

Do you really see Mayor Giuliani of New York City winning South Carolina? Really?!!


11 posted on 10/28/2007 6:50:56 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: Veronica Mars

I must confess, I am enjoying Spitzer’s misadventures. I don’t like the scare of drivers’ licenses, but it is Halloween and all. I watched him as AG and he was despicable there as well.


12 posted on 10/28/2007 6:54:54 AM PDT by tioga
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well I have been at war with rootietootie mittwitts all morning. Their Conservatism is like Star Trek’s Evil Kirk in an alternative Universe. They twist, deceive and bend Conservative definitions and long held beliefs to promote their candidates as Conservatives. The SOUTH is the heart of Conservatism... we also know what bovine poop smells like. This poll is just one more piece of concrete evidence that proves that Millions of us are not buying into their version of America 2.0!

LLS

13 posted on 10/28/2007 6:55:03 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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Do you really see Mayor Giuliani of New York City winning South Carolina? Really?!!

Under these conditions (a four man race in SC), yes I think Guiliani has a good chance of winning. Guiliani is running as the national security candidate and that's why he is running strong in SC.
14 posted on 10/28/2007 6:55:12 AM PDT by Veronica Mars
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To: LibLieSlayer

Who has said anything about Guiliani or Romney in this post to be labeled a rootietootie or a mittwitt? This thread is about poll results not policy differences. I support neither Guiliani nor Romney, so I know you’re not referring to me.


15 posted on 10/28/2007 6:58:54 AM PDT by Veronica Mars
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Umm, honesty? For Fred to ONLY have a 19 point lead over a northeasterner in Georgia is pretty sad. But remember, Rudy does not have to win Georgia--a second place finish in GA and AL are huge for him, because he'll have the very large delegate states of NY, CA, CT, NJ, PA, and FL, where Fred has no chance (Fred will probably fight McCain for a #2 in FL).

People keep ignoring delegates. The RealClearPolitics averages of polls show:

Mitt wins IA, NH, and probably MI. He's campaigning hard in SC, and could possibly take that. Then he's finished, unless a "bandwagon" momentum suddenly appears.

Rudy is way ahead in FL, competitive in SC, and will get some delegates from both IA and NH. Then Super Tuesday hits and all the huge delegate counts come in for him, except AZ.

The dirty little secret is that McCain is polling better against Hillary in KY, KS, MI, OH, WA, (and, I think) VA than Rudy (barely) and far better than Fred.

So I keep asking, where will Fred get his delegates? He not only needs wins in SC and MI, but #2 finishes in IA, NH, just to make it to Super Tuesday.

16 posted on 10/28/2007 7:01:00 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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So I keep asking, where will Fred get his delegates? He not only needs wins in SC and MI, but #2 finishes in IA, NH, just to make it to Super Tuesday.

Exactly right, well said.
17 posted on 10/28/2007 7:03:05 AM PDT by Veronica Mars
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To: Veronica Mars

No mam, I was not refering to you in any way. I will make certain to seek your written approval before I make any future statements. I really meant the first sentence.

LLS


18 posted on 10/28/2007 7:08:48 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Thank you, that sounds reasonable to me.


19 posted on 10/28/2007 7:11:06 AM PDT by Veronica Mars
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To: LS

Interesting. I’m not up on the mechanics of all this. When you say he NEEDS second place in IA and NH, etc, to make it to Super Tuesday, do you mean he literally MUST? Do you get elimated without getting a certain number of delegates along the way?


20 posted on 10/28/2007 7:17:58 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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