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According to Polls, Fred Thompson Foundering
Wash Post ^ | 11/13/07 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 11/13/2007 11:13:48 AM PST by pissant

The American electorate is a fickle mistress. Just ask former Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.).

When Thompson announced his candidacy for president just after Labor Day most national polls showed him running a close second behind former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and the majority of state polls had him in the top three.

No longer. Thompson's campaign has yet to take off as expected and voters -- especially in crucial early states like Iowa, New Hampshire and Florida.

The most recent data comes from New Hampshire where two surveys were released over the weekend. The first, conducted by theUniversity of New Hampshire for the Boston Globe, put Thompson in sixth (yes, SIXTH) place with just three percent of the vote. (Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney led the way with 32 percent.) In a Marist University poll Thompson again took sixth place with just five percent support. To be clear, Thompson was never a frontrunner in New Hampshire but polls conducted in the run-up to his announcement and just after he formally entered the race show him regularly polling in double digits.

Thompson's shrinking support is apparent in other early states as well. The last three polls taken in Iowa put Thompson in fourth, fifth and fourth place, respectively, and his high water mark in any of those surveys is 11 percent. In Florida, too, Thompson appears to be fading. A new poll conducted for the Miami Herald and St. Petersburg Times showed Thompson in fifth place (eight percent) behind Giuliani (36 percent), Romney (19 percent), Arizona Sen. John McCain (12 percent) and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (nine percent).

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; axisofdesperation; chriscillizza; elections; flounder; fred; fredthompson; halibut; pissanthropy; postcardfromoblivion; thinningtheherd
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To: pissant

Agree BUMP!


21 posted on 11/13/2007 11:25:38 AM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: pissant
BTW, my congrats to the headline writer. Any more, most people wrongly use “floundering” instead of “foundering.”
22 posted on 11/13/2007 11:25:48 AM PST by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: pissant

You left off one little factor...


23 posted on 11/13/2007 11:26:32 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: pissant

Consider the source, people!


24 posted on 11/13/2007 11:27:31 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: pissant

Saw Fred at 1:30 with a small press briefing on his social security plans on C-span2 today. He was slow, bumbling and disconnected. He doesn’t seem like there is a anything wrong with him mentally or physically, he just seems disengaged or bored. It sucks because he seemed the best alternative out there, and it seems like he doesn’t quite have the fire for what’s required of him.


25 posted on 11/13/2007 11:27:41 AM PST by montag813
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To: ejonesie22

What might that be?


26 posted on 11/13/2007 11:28:13 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
Time to ditch Fred and join the Hunter Campaign folks.

LOL, yeah, it's time to ditch the guy who's got a time-averaged support level still over 20% for the guy who's getting spanked by Ron Paul. Sure.

27 posted on 11/13/2007 11:28:30 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: rightinthemiddle

“There has been a fear of Fred Thompson among the media types since rumors started about his campaign.”

I believe that the Rasmussen Daily Poll is also showing support for FDT trending down.


28 posted on 11/13/2007 11:29:21 AM PST by snarkybob
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Allright, when Fred falls to 3rd place in the nationals, you can jump on Hunter’s wagon. It won’t be too late.


29 posted on 11/13/2007 11:29:42 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

The whole “if they could win” part.


30 posted on 11/13/2007 11:30:37 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: pissant
The liberal Washington Post and FR`s resident malcontent, pissant, holding hands in full anti-Fred mode. LOL Nothing new about that.

Fred just received the endorsement of the nations largest and most powerful pro-life organization, and one of the biggest grassroots movements in the America today, The National Right to Life Committee. That is a 50 state organization with over 3,000 chapters from coast to coast.

Duncan Hunter's campaign is still stuck in neutral. Its out of cash and out of time. Its time to ditch Hunter and join a winner, Fred Thompson.

31 posted on 11/13/2007 11:31:41 AM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
LOL, yeah, it's time to ditch the guy who's got a time-averaged support level still over 20% for the guy who's getting spanked by Ron Paul. Sure.

Paul, the one who has spammers working outside the country to lift him in the polls? The 9-11 truther Paul?

32 posted on 11/13/2007 11:31:46 AM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: colorado tanker
BTW, my congrats to the headline writer. Any more, most people wrongly use “floundering” instead of “foundering.”

That is an excellent point. It appears that Fred's floundering on the campaign trail has led to his foundering in the polls.

Usage Note: The verbs founder and flounder are often confused. Founder comes from a Latin word meaning "bottom" (as in foundation) and originally referred to knocking enemies down; it is now also used to mean "to fail utterly, collapse." Flounder means "to move clumsily, thrash about," and hence "to proceed in confusion." If John is foundering in Chemistry 1, he had better drop the course; if he is floundering, he may yet pull through.

33 posted on 11/13/2007 11:32:38 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: snarkybob

I’m not a FredHead, yet. There’s no doubt he’s trending down...to the MSM’s delight.

Worst case, if Rudy is elected, the MSM can spend four years talking about how the country is moving left by electing a liberal Republican who supports abortion and gay marriage.


34 posted on 11/13/2007 11:32:39 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: pissant

I see that Fred is still ahead of the snake-bit Hunter. Is Hunter ahead of Paul yet?


35 posted on 11/13/2007 11:33:20 AM PST by matthew fuller (Crop-circles, killer rabbits and UFO'S are caused by GLOBAL WARMING!)
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To: pissant

Fred will prove ALL of you wrong and return to leading numbers... I like Hunter... but he may not even be allowed in the next debate. Fred ,at his lowest point, has 3 to 5 times the support of Hunter.

LLS


36 posted on 11/13/2007 11:34:07 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: pissant

I wish Hunter would raise 4.5 million $ in one day like Ron Paul.

I can’t help him much there.


37 posted on 11/13/2007 11:34:14 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: pissant

Thanks for the ping. Here’s what I’ve been posting lately.

Here’s a recent poll showing Hunter at 4%.

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/28889/republicans_2008_giuliani_28_thompson_19

Here’s an intrade link to the forum site discussing how Hunter might be gaining traction.
http://bb.intrade.com/intradeForum/posts/list/1797.page

Here’s one showing Fred at 6%, and discussing why.
http://bb.intrade.com/intradeForum/posts/list/1805.page

One thing prediction markets are better at — their only bias is whether someone can make money trading the futures contracts.

The Efficacy Of Prediction Markets
The Liberty Papers ^ | November 8, 2007 | Brad Warbiany
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922961/posts

Posted on 11/08/2007 12:21:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Fred has lost ~30 points at Intrade over the last few weeks, looks like it’s stabilizing at ~6%.

Thompson Tanking in Futures Markets (Intrade, IEM)
Intrade; Iowa Electronic Markets ^ | October 31, 2008

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1919127/posts

Today, the Dropout contract for Thompson has an ask price 1.0 higher than yesterday, 2 points higher than last trade. There is no Dropout contract for Hunter.

http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch/

DROPOUT.DEC07.(F)THOMPSON
Fred Thompson to drop out of 2008 Presidential race on/before 31 Dec 2007 M 6.0 9.2 4.0 0 0


38 posted on 11/13/2007 11:34:55 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Correction: I have signed up at his website, but haven’t given Fred any money.


39 posted on 11/13/2007 11:35:00 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: ejonesie22

Meaning this: Who do you actually prefer?

This is the primary. Get on board with the Reaganite, or we will be stuck with Rudy McRomney.


40 posted on 11/13/2007 11:35:21 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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