Posted on 01/11/2008 7:10:12 PM PST by Andy'smom
Back at Politico World HQ for a brief respite before heading onto Michigan I've been able to catch up a bit on some reading.
These maps, courtesy of the PolySigh blog, tell an interesting story.
It appears that Romney defeated Huck in the more heavily Catholic counties along the Mississippi River in eastern Iowa.
That Mitt was stronger in this part of the state and Huck better off in evangelical-heavy western Iowa was known even before the votes for cast. It wasn't just religion Romney had worked eastern Iowa hard and had a good base of support there.
But the correlation between Huck's losses and Catholic counties is so precise that it can't be completely ignored. Catholics in places like Dubuque, Iowa, are just as anti-abortion as Huck. But did they not go for his overt emphasis on faith?
Keep an eye on Macomb County, Mich., just outside of Detroit, next Tuesday and we'll know the answer.
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Actually, he makes this Catholic a lot more comfortable than Abortiani or Flip Romney.
He’s an Episcopalian, isn’t he? His wife is a Baptist.
You would have to ask Catholics. My guess is it depends on their politics and who they support. I think it is his politics and nothing more. Personally I chose the catholic Sam Brownback before the evangelical Huckabee before Brownback dropped out, and I’m evangelical. Many evangelicals hate Huckabee’s guts (see many pro-Thompson FR postings over the past couple of weeks for proof.) It isn’t about the religion unless someone sees an opportunity to cause harm with it. Clearly many are doing just that (again, see the pro-Thompson, anti-Huckabee postings). I don’t see this particular problem coming from the Romney crowd. Keep in mind a Catholic is choosing a mormon in supporting Romney. They’ve already figured out this is about politics and not theology.
Huckabee is juvenile, liberal, and completely out of his league. He also deliberately stirred up anti-Mormon bigotry with his “Don’t (Mormons) think Jesus and Satan are brothers?” jab at Mitt Romney.
Huckabee has been playing a wink-wink-nod-nod “I’m the REAL Christian” game, which I find disgusting.
Anti-Mormon evangelicals like Huckabee also tend to be anti-
Catholic and anti-Jewish. The Huckster will never get this Catholics’s vote.
All we Christians have access to the BOOK that tells us first hand if what someone claims is from the BOOK. We are told to test the fruit. This guy also said of Jesus that He was tooooo smart to get into politics... so why is Huck a follower of Christ doing what he claims Jesus is tooo smart to do, if Huck's claim to fame is a follower of Jesus.
Thank you, that’s exactly what it sounded like to me.
no issues if heâs a preacher. and stays a preacher. maybe he can team up with ron paul and corner the disenfranchised corner of the gold-bug and walmart-is-the-devil wing of the party.
Its really pathetic when the best choices I have are Mitt and Mc. Sorry folks, but Duncan Hunter has as much chance of winning even a single state as I do of bedding Scarlett Johanssen.
Mike Huckabee to speak at strongly anti-Catholic preacher's church
Of course he’s a Baptist, he’s in SC. I heard a Boston talk show host claim he was a Catholic.
He makes me uncomfortable but it has nothing to do with my being Catholic.
Sounds like the Clinton wing.
McCain has stated in SC that hes a Baptist now. LOL
This reminds me of a scene from “Oh Brother Where Art Thou?” LOL
If McCain really said he didn’t find it “necessary” to be baptized, I question whether he’s really a Christian at all. Baptism is fundamental for all Christians, and is not based on what someone decides he “needs.”
You know, I have no problems with so-called fundamentalists. I don’t agree with them on a number of points, but I find them sincere and generally admirable.
My problem with Huckabee is that I think he’s a hypocrite, a fake, and a liar. It’s up to God to judge him personally, but it’s up to us as voters to judge what kind of president we think he would make. Lousy, stupid, and corrupt.
I don’t see eye to eye with Pat Robertson on every issue, but I admire and respect him as a Christian. I would not say that about Huckabee. He’s a snake-oil salesman.
So, are you saying huck makes you uncomfortable?
Beyond that, you have to be careful about writing about "Catholics", because you have CINO's (like RINO's) and conservative Catholics and liberal Catholics and their political opinions are going to be very different.
But let's say you ask a conservative, reasonably devout and informed Catholic, like say, me. I would say, "yeah, beyond his stance on the issues and I what I perceive to be a superficial understanding of foreign policy, I'm uncomfortable with him." In Catholic social teaching, we're taught to vote on the issues but not necessarily on religious affiliation. There are some issues which the Church teaches us are make or break. These are:
but beyond those five non-negotiable issues, the guidelines to the Catholic voter are pretty general. However on this forum I've gotten into a discussion with a person who's first qualification on voting was that the candidate be a Christian. I asked what he would do if candidate choose a Jewish running mate and got an answer that indicated it would cause the candidate to lose his vote. Huckabee seems to appeal to that strain of voter and does so very deliberately. The underlying theme of much of his candidacy is "vote for me, I'm a Christian". My attitude is that I would sooner vote for a virtuous and experienced pagan who's solid on the five issues I noted above than I would on a devout, but unqualified Christian. However that is not the attitude that the Huckabee campaign appears to embrace.
We Catholics customarily vote for Protestants, and a pro-death position and marital troubles ironically render the only nominally Catholic candidate (Rudolph William Louis Giuliani) completely unacceptable. Other than the ridiculous antiwar Ronald Ernest Paul, the remaining candidates are mediocre but not unacceptable. Huckabee sounds as good or better than the rest of them.
I would use a stronger word than uncomfortable to describe my aversion to this guy's sideshow. But the thread was specific to a Catholic Problem so I sought to address from a nondenominational perspective.
No. I'm supporting Rudy.
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