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FreeRepublic: a Huge News Database and Search Engine Please use "Topics" and "Key Words"
Vanity | April 28, 2008 | Self

Posted on 04/28/2008 9:21:51 AM PDT by Perseverando

Jim Robinson has created and maintains a huge treasure trove of news and information here at FreeRepublic.com. He gladly shares it with us Freepers and the rest of the world (a.k.a. - lurkers). And thanks to Jim and staff, FreeRepublic has a fantastic search engine (far surpassing Google), IMHO, due to the plethora of relevant news and information from around the world posted by us Freepers.

For lack of a better description, I would classify FreeRepublic as a huge historical news and information database thanks to all of the postings and comments of Freepers (and a few disrupters - ZOT!!).

And yes, we believe fervently that our fellow Freepers and anyone else perusing FreeRepublic.com should have the maximum opportunity to read, consider, and discuss with us the information that we dig up from the far corners of the internet. Isn’t that's why we spend so many hours every week "getting out the word" through FreeRepublic.com.

That’s why over the past week, I have spent far too much time reviewing posted articles and adding keywords to them. For example, on recent hot topic subjects, I have found far too many articles on Obama, Wright, and Ayers, with only one or two, or even no keywords associated with the posted article. So when searches are done for articles on these individuals, the search engine misses relevant posted articles.

So please, as you are reading various articles, take a look at the keywords and consider adding some of your own if the poster dropped the ball and failed to list relevant keywords.

So may I humbly suggest and encourage my fellow Freepers to more actively use the available tools - "TOPICS" & "KEYWORDS" to make FreeRepublic more user friendly for those who actively research articles for ourselves and for those who just need "a little more" information on various subjects.

Hey, if we use "KeyWords" when we post, won't it make the FreeRepublic news database even more valuable as a reference source for us, and even those who disagree with us?

Finally, if those who disagree with us visit FreeRepublic because it is known for being the best news database on the internet, maybe they will begin to see the world as it really is.

How about it Freepers?


TOPICS: Free Republic; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: data; database; faq; fr; freerepublic; jimrobinson; keywords; keywordsareevil; moderators; news; posting; search; searchengine; topics

1 posted on 04/28/2008 9:21:51 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando
This is a good place to remind everyone that, when searching under Title, just use one or two words instead of pasting the whole thing into the Search field. For example, this thread will pop-up under a Title search for "database."

Single greatest source of complaints that Search doesn't work, in my opinion.

2 posted on 04/28/2008 9:25:06 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Perseverando

Bump!


3 posted on 04/28/2008 9:25:34 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Perseverando

I still find using Google to search FreeRepublic better, especially for older topics.


4 posted on 04/28/2008 9:26:42 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: 1rudeboy

” Single greatest source of complaints that Search doesn’t work, in my opinion.”

It works most of the time, in my opinion. But every once in a while, you’ll even do a search on one or two keywords and nothing will come up. So you post and of course the “already posted” nazis spring up everywhere with a link.

It works really well, but it’s not foolproof. But as this indicates, perhaps if posters take more care in setting up the post, it will help close the cracks.


5 posted on 04/28/2008 9:30:47 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Slapshot68

I’ve never understood why Search defaults to “keyword,” and not “title.” And frankly, no . . . whenever someone claims they did a search and couldn’t find the article, how come it (or they) pop-up when I do?


6 posted on 04/28/2008 9:34:01 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Perseverando

Are you sure you’re logged in? :)


7 posted on 04/28/2008 9:36:02 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (Dedicated to the preservation of American Exceptionalism.)
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To: 1rudeboy

“And frankly, no . . . whenever someone claims they did a search and couldn’t find the article, how come it (or they) pop-up when I do?”

Same here, but there have been a handful of times where I did the search and nothing came up for me either. Like I said, it works well most of the time.


8 posted on 04/28/2008 9:38:58 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Perseverando

Please use “Times” instead of “Slimes”, etc. Keywords and crucial. With proper keywording, FR is equivalent to a high-priced service such as Lexis-Nexis.


9 posted on 04/28/2008 9:42:10 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Slapshot68

I don’t think the search works for words of fewer than four letters. Also, I’ve found articles where the poster has changed the headline to his or her liking . . . I click abuse and ask the mods to change it back. So it’s theoretically possible that an older article that does not appear for you would appear in the future after the headline is changed.


10 posted on 04/28/2008 9:42:57 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: montag813

Satirical key words are great, but yes please make sure the correct ones are there first at least.


11 posted on 04/28/2008 9:46:03 AM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: Perseverando

“So please, as you are reading various articles, take a look at the keywords and consider adding some of your own if the poster dropped the ball and failed to list relevant keywords.”

Thank you! Even when I wasn’t posting on FR for a couple years, I couldn’t resist adding some keywords. Many articles get posted without any. They make articles SO much easier to find later.


12 posted on 04/28/2008 9:48:28 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: TonyInOhio

Re: Are you sure you’re logged in? :)

Is there a way to logout of FreeRepublic? LOL!


13 posted on 04/28/2008 9:54:12 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

interesting


14 posted on 04/28/2008 10:01:17 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Perseverando

vey interestink.

keywords are our friends..

and I agree, the archives of FR modern day rank up there with the best , if one knows how to use the tools.


15 posted on 04/28/2008 10:21:19 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... Cabo or Bust!)
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To: Perseverando
Is there a way to logout of FreeRepublic?

Yes

16 posted on 04/28/2008 10:38:44 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

Re: Is there a way to logout of FreeRepublic? Yes

Never! I refuse to go over to the dark side.


17 posted on 04/28/2008 10:52:16 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: John Robinson

Can you make “Titles” the first default in the search box at upper right corner instead of “keyword”?


18 posted on 04/28/2008 10:57:19 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Carbon is the fifth most abundant element on the planet.)
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To: Perseverando

“Is there a way to logout of FreeRepublic?”

ALT-F4


19 posted on 04/28/2008 10:58:24 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Carbon is the fifth most abundant element on the planet.)
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To: Perseverando

Somebody could do a PhD thesis or two on the database here. Two million threads with who knows how many posts of mostly opinion on each would be quite a series of cultural snapshots.


20 posted on 04/28/2008 11:02:36 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Always Right
I still find using Google to search FreeRepublic better, especially for older topics.

Yep.
It seems like a lot of older stuff, like so many of the articles about 9/11, are gone into a black hole somewhere. You can find some using Google, however, but not with FR keywords.

21 posted on 04/28/2008 11:04:59 AM PDT by XR7
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To: 1rudeboy
someone claims they did a search

Some couldn't find their . . . uh, couldn't find the word 'brain' in a dictionary.

22 posted on 04/28/2008 11:05:21 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: 1rudeboy
...whenever someone claims they did a search and couldn’t find the article, how come it (or they) pop-up when I do?

Often what the already-posted nazis (and I'm not saying you're one) mean when they say "I found it" is

-They found an article on the topic, but not the same article posted. The different articles could have different info, but the already-posted nazi only sees the topic.

-Many times the same article but from different sources will have have different titles. Yes, a little more care could prevent double posting in this casr, but it's not the end of the world.

The already posted nazis get on my nerves. Yes sometimes there are too many articles posted on the same topic.

On the other hand, I can't count how many times I have seen the article jumped on the post nazis but never saw the original they referred to. In all those cases, I'm damn glad it was posted twice because otherwise, I wouldn't have seen it at all.

23 posted on 04/28/2008 1:04:35 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: GATOR NAVY
The Nazi's should definitely provide links, true. But the "I'd have not seen it otherwise" thing is an excuse. Twenty minutes while drinking coffee in the morning skimming the Articles tab (instead of Activity or Comments), and you'll never miss a thread again.

In fact the best informative-type threads on FR rarely get many replies . . . why should you count on luck-of-the-draw in order to see one?

24 posted on 04/28/2008 1:31:00 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Perseverando

You just doomed your thread to excessive keyword adding, I hope you know that.

So Free Republic have a lot of relevant news? Would you say that we have a “plethora” of relevant news? And I just would like to know if you know what a plethora is. I would not like to think that a person would tell someone he has a plethora, and then find out that that person has no idea what it means to have a plethora.


25 posted on 04/28/2008 1:45:20 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Gun-free zones aren't. Visit ConcealedCampus.com for more)
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To: Perseverando

When I want to search FR, I use Google.

Sometimes reality bites.


26 posted on 04/28/2008 1:48:08 PM PDT by djf
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To: 1rudeboy
Twenty minutes while drinking coffee in the morning skimming the Articles tab (instead of Activity or Comments), and you'll never miss a thread again.

Ha!

I spend 20 - 60 minutes going over the postings from the night before when I get up at 5:00, Eastern Time. Most mornings, after I get to work and take care of the initial dummy S/W engineers, I take another 30 minutes at about 9:00 to catch up on how the day has started out on the East Coast, and the early doings elsewhere.

I take another 40 - 60 minutes to read FR over lunch, and usually manage 30 minutes during the afternoon.

When I get home at around 6:00 pm, I usually find that I've missed a ton of stuff that happened during the day! Since finding FR in 1998, I've become a terrible news junkie, and I still miss an awful lot of material I'm interested in.

27 posted on 04/28/2008 5:23:38 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: jimtorr
I skim all the posting at once, making notes of the ones I wish to return to (most times). You are correct that some days traffic is heavier, lately it hasn't been.

I can go through 8-10 hours (I haven't really counted) of threads in twenty minutes. It takes another 40 to reply to the ones I'm interested in, and then I'm off to the races.

I check Articles when I wake up, around dinner, and before going to bed. Not a perfect system, but it works for me.

28 posted on 04/28/2008 5:46:26 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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By “skim,” I mean that I rarely read the entire thread during the first glance. I will leave a placemarker as a reply a good number of times, that serves as a reminder for me to come back and read the whole thing.


29 posted on 04/28/2008 5:48:27 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I guess I’m just interested in too many things, and overly curious about what posters have to say.


30 posted on 04/29/2008 2:52:56 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: 1rudeboy
I’ve never understood why Search defaults to “keyword,” and not “title.”

Same here. Having the onfocus default to title would be better. It would save two extra mouse clicks.
31 posted on 04/30/2008 10:25:43 AM PDT by octobersky
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To: Perseverando

HEARTILY AGREE!

Count me in, and BTTT.


32 posted on 04/30/2008 1:27:24 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Only The Tribulation is a crucible sufficient to the emergence of a Bride pure enough for He Who IS.)
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To: Perseverando

Surrender to the inevitable.

People will A) fail to check for duplicates, B) post in the “wrong” forum sections, C) misspell titles, D) use the minimum number (one) of topic words, E) use either zero keywords, or the maximum (four) number of useless keywords, and F) post excerpts which consist of the maximum number of words, but drawn only from the beginning of the article instead of hand-excerpting relevant stuff.

:’)


33 posted on 05/02/2008 12:35:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: Perseverando

What if the search funtion became part of the posting process. In other words, when a person puts a title in the title field, a search is automatically performed. Also I notice that duplicate posts are sometimes close together in time, so the second poster could not possible have know about the privious post.


34 posted on 05/19/2008 8:44:03 AM PDT by Excellence (Daughter of the American Revolution, niece of the Civil War (North).)
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To: Perseverando

The problems for me with just using keywords search are the myriad different definitions of moose, cheese and sister.


35 posted on 05/19/2008 8:47:05 AM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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