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Wake up Conservative Base!

Posted on 05/10/2008 9:11:06 AM PDT by RonnieFan

All indications are the Democrats will pick up seats in both the House and Senate, with the Senate likely being a couple of RHINOs away from the magic 60. McCain is no Reagan but he's the only thing standing in the way of the most liberal Senator in Senate becoming President with a clear majority in Congress and at a critical time with decisions to be made on the war on terror, the war in Iraq, heath care, taxes, illegal immigration and likely the Supreme Court.

Sometimes you do have to pick the lesser of two evils. This is one of them. I am fully aware that I'll be let down by McCain on some key issues but I know I'll be let down on all of them if Obama is President.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; base; bckstbngprck; conservatives; elections; fearmongering; gop; mccain; obama; rinostampede; scaretactics; teamjuanshills; vanity; wereallmavericksnow; yayanothervanity
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To: Liz
Quotes from Juan Hernandez, The New American Pioneers:
"The undocumented in the U.S. are not the problem. Our small thinking is the problem" (page 182).

"Writers Gonzales and Rodriguez point out that any Mexican or Central American person now living in the United States is already home, considering the ancient homeland of the indigenous people called Aztlan was somewhere in the American Southwest, according to ancient accounts" (page 46).

"Another crucial element of real immigration reform would allow undocumented workers already in the country to become legal. ...No matter how small the window of opportunity, there should be -- there must be -- some light at the end of the tunnel for those seeking citizenship" (page 61).

"One major study, headed by Robert A. Pastor of the Center for North American Studies at American University, was called 'Closing the Development Gap: A Proposal for a North American Investment Fund.' ...The investment fund would require contributions from the U.S. of $9 billion annually, another $1 billion from Canada, and Mexico would supply the remaining $7 billion. The goal of all this investment would be to shrink the wealth gap between Mexico and the U.S." (pages 178-179).


301 posted on 05/11/2008 11:30:25 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
'Closing the Development Gap: A Proposal for a North American Investment Fund'.......would require contributions from the US of $9 billion annually......

O-o-o-o-o.....I am so-o-o-o-o-o surprised (/sarc).

Figures the greedy jerks would extort taxpayers.

Hernandez is playing the old political game of keeping one foot in each camp........ so that whoever wins, the hyphenated voting bloc claims victory......and can commence cleaning out the US treasury.

I am sick and tired of taxpayers being used by these disturbed creeps to shore up their self-esteem. Go get therapy, Senor Hernandez..... and leave US taxpayers alone.

302 posted on 05/11/2008 11:44:29 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: Huck

>>IIRC, McCain was holding out for spending cuts. He was correct about that.

You would be wrong—as was McCain.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1955411/posts

“I don’t think the governor’s tax cut is too big—it’s just misplaced. Sixty percent of the benefits from his tax cuts go to the wealthiest 10% of Americans—and that’s not the kind of tax relief that Americans need. … Gov. Bush wants to spend the entire surplus on tax cuts. I don’t believe the wealthiest 10% of Americans should get 60% of the tax breaks. I think the lowest 10% should get the breaks. …

“I’m not giving tax cuts for the rich.”

—Discussion with media, reported in “Bush, McCain Snip Over Tax Cut Plans,” Los Angeles Times, and “GOP Rivals Bicker on Taxes,” Washington Post, Jan. 5, 2000.


303 posted on 05/11/2008 11:49:04 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Liz

BTTT! Right on, Liz. You do know Juan will never do that.

But hey, I am a proud maverick too. McCain can kiss my behind. I do not care about a candidate that cares more about liberal pubbies and Reagan Dems.

McCain wil never be President unless he has a “come to Jesus moment”.

He hasn’t done that, and that is why he is lingering out there with no money and no grass roots support.

All of those folks that think Juan is a great American are looped out. Juan is a selfish globalist and he has no clue about how American citizens think.

Screw you, McCain. Get with it, we no longer can be fooled. We know who you are and what is behind you!


304 posted on 05/11/2008 11:58:52 AM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: FocusNexus

by getting out the vote for McCain.

rush and write a check to help McCain


Even those that have deluded themselves to the point where they honestly believe that voting for McBackstabber is somehow NOT whoring out what principles they may have once held have been saying that they might vote for the POS but they aren’t “getting out the vote him” nor are they “rushing to write him a check.”

How does one kill a RINO? Starve the bastard to death.


305 posted on 05/11/2008 12:16:33 PM PDT by Grunthor (McCain voters believe that it's possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: cva66snipe

No doubt no doubt. But our amigos who want to come here, if drafted, could certainly do all the behind the lines stuff that needs doing.


306 posted on 05/11/2008 12:39:59 PM PDT by gost2
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To: indylindy
Screw you, McCain. Get with it, we no longer can be fooled. We know who you are and what is behind you!

Geez---I wise we could get that on a bumper sticker.

307 posted on 05/11/2008 12:40:33 PM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: RonnieFan
Sometimes you do have to pick the lesser of two evils. This is one of them.

The problem is, its ALWAYS one of them. We've been told to vote for RINO's JUST THIS ONE TIME every year. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me 10 times, shame on me. Not any more though. I have given up voting for liberals.

308 posted on 05/11/2008 12:42:07 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy
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To: indylindy
Juan is a selfish globalist (and could care less what American citizens think).

Yeah, Juan's got BIG ideas----he's gonna embrace the entire globe (or try anyway with those short arms of his).

Juan's thinking he's gonna be the first US President of the World. The pukenoes are tightening Juan's leash, whispering sweet nothings in his ear, promising him the World, as long as he does what they say.......they even got the plan calling it "National Greatness" (gag).

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McCain's handlers are shortstuff Fox pundit, Billy Kristol, his daddy, and their secret society of pukeneos. The Kristols are cheerleaders for the current admin's most destructive polices---including the twice-failed amnesty, and the trillion dollar bleeding of US treasure into Mideast hellholes (and into pockets of war profiteers).

The conservative-hating Kristols are also designated drivers of the wacky "National Greatness" thingy---which must have been written in a drunken stupor.

Kristol and the pukeneos first-choice for prez was Giuliani; they were the ones orchestrating Rooty's stupid strategy to religiously cleanse the Repub party and kick conservatives to the curb.

The Kristol crowd switched to McCain when their boy Giuliani tanked like a deadweight going down a 300 ft cistern. and were directing Giuliani's cockamamie strategy to "save himself" for Florida---which has reached cult status as the stupidest strategy in campaign history.

Giuliani ferociously campaigned (and lost) in EVERY primary/caucus, then campaigned 61 days straight in Fla, and came in a distant third..........without conservatives.

Betcha the secret society of pukeneos secretly helped McQueeg write the twice-failed amnesty bill we all fought so hard to stop.

309 posted on 05/11/2008 1:03:07 PM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: Liz; devolve

Thanks much for the ping Liz, always good info from you.

Happy Mother’s Day if ‘applies’ and I have to go visit with my family now.


310 posted on 05/11/2008 2:47:36 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: RonnieFan

All elections are the lesser of two evils. McCain, to my eyes, is clearly the lesser evil this time around. If you think his moderate views are bad, wait until you get a taste of Osama (I’m not going to honor the flag) Hussein supported by both houses of congress. No thank you. I’ll be voting for and supporting McCain.


311 posted on 05/11/2008 3:31:31 PM PDT by RC one
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To: Grunthor
Sadly, you are correct.

So I'm becoming a connoisseur of crap.

312 posted on 05/11/2008 3:35:36 PM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: chesley

I will not now, nor would I ever tell you who to vote for or not to vote for. It’s a difficult decision usually and this year is double tough. I would just ask you; “How bad would a GOP nominee have to be for you to say, no thanks my values, morals, principles....the things that make me who I am will not allow me to support that candidate?”

If not this year...when?


313 posted on 05/11/2008 3:40:31 PM PDT by Grunthor (Of two evils, choose neither - Charles Spurgeon)
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To: Nuc1
The only time we had a chance in my lifetime to roll back the libs was with the Constitutional Option regarding judicial filibusters.

As I said, it is very difficult to roll back the libs. It's a one way ratchet.

I can't really criticize those that refuse to vote for McCain. I abhor the thought, too. But bad as he is, he isn't Hillary and he isn't Obama. Things will get worse faster with them than with McCain.

But I don't know that I am doing the right thing, and that is the truth. I'm come reluctantly to my decision after much thought and prayer. I hope you've done the same.

And I certainly hope that America can survive the Marxist regime that I feel coming.

Best wishes to you.

314 posted on 05/11/2008 3:40:56 PM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: Liz; Tennessee Nana
FWIW, have you two seen "The Border"....?

It was made last year, (a DVD) and you can order it from Grassfire..

..a friend loaned it to me and it is powerful!!

A must watch!

315 posted on 05/11/2008 3:43:23 PM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: Grunthor

How bad would a Republican have to be?

An easy question to answer. Worse than the Democratic nominee. Which McCain isn’t, by a long shot.

But I’m extremely unhappy about my choice. I just don’t have a better one. Letting the Dhimms in is not an option for me.


316 posted on 05/11/2008 3:44:38 PM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: chesley

“An easy question to answer. Worse than the Democratic nominee.”

Yer alright chesley, way too easy to please, but yer an alright FReeper in my book.


317 posted on 05/11/2008 3:46:17 PM PDT by Grunthor (Of two evils, choose neither - Charles Spurgeon)
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To: Grunthor

Same here.

I wish I could back McCain with enthusiasm. I can’t. I wish he deserved it. He doesn’t.

And I hope that the plan works. If John McCain is defeated, I hope that the pros that lead the party realize that it doesn’t do any good to reach out to the damn idiots in the “center” if they lose the base.


318 posted on 05/11/2008 3:49:40 PM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: RonnieFan

You are sadly mistaken. McCain has NOTHING to do with the senate.

NOTHING.

McCain is a buffoon who overvalues his importance.

He is a joke.

You only point out the obvious. Conservatives should just ignore the three clone freashow and focus on their local elections.


319 posted on 05/11/2008 3:57:41 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Liz

McCain thinks he can fool all of the people all of the time.

He is banking on his military service as “comoflage” to his gang of 14 RINO status.

Juan Hernandes is banking on being able to exclude the conservatives.

What will he tell mccain if conservatives write in G.T. H#LL as a candidate in protest?

McCain is a fool.


320 posted on 05/11/2008 4:04:05 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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