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DNC steps in to silence lawsuit over Obama birth certificate
World Net Daily ^ | October 4, 2008 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 10/04/2008 9:16:33 AM PDT by Amityschild

The man suing Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee for proof of Obama's American citizenship is outraged that his own party – rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks – would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit.

As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit.

Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away – instead of just providing the documents – the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct.

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To: spokeshave
sunni or later shiite happens


351 posted on 10/04/2008 6:30:40 PM PDT by tomkat (support American craftsmanship)
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To: danamco
"To be a Natural Born Citizen one has to be born in a State, or Condition of, Allegiance to the USA. A person with Dual Nationality due to having parents of differing Nationality, who both acknowledged the Birth, is not so born. Their Allegiance is, by definition, divided. Subsequent acquisition of Nationality produces the same problem."

Would your post also apply to so called 'anchor babies'?

352 posted on 10/04/2008 6:35:11 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: Amityschild
Silence the birth certificate lawsuit? That is very easy for a liberal socialist, just buy off the liberally appointed Federal Judge, or just go judge shopping until they find a friendly judge who's supports Obama for the next socialist president and have him or her dismiss the suit against the messiah Obama.

The U.S. Constitution means nothing to the liberal Socialist Democratic Party of America (SDPA) anyway.

353 posted on 10/04/2008 6:35:30 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (82 Airborne 1/508th BN "fury from the sky")
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To: DannyTN

That would take Republican officials with courage or Democrats or the press who have integrity. Seems to be in short supply these days.


354 posted on 10/04/2008 6:36:35 PM PDT by alwaysconservative (The Metamucil press doesn't even realize what a great story it is passing up on the COLB matter!)
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To: Netizen
Aren’t birth records public knowledge?

It appears getting a copy of a real BC is not possible unless you are the actual person. BUT shouldn't a citizen have the right to ask the state of Hawaii if a baby was born in Hawaii to Stanley Ann Dunham (or various AKAs)? No one other than eligible state employees need to look at the BC to verify this. Would this work?

355 posted on 10/04/2008 6:37:34 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: VlPu

Wow, that guy’s a friggin’ nut ball.


356 posted on 10/04/2008 6:41:34 PM PDT by TheZMan (Bitter backwoods east Texan Christian gun clinger with the AC at 72 degrees.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Would this work?

You'll excuse me for not blindly trusting any of the officials of the very Blue State of Hawaii.

357 posted on 10/04/2008 6:42:07 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: alwaysconservative

“That would take Republican officials with courage or Democrats or the press who have integrity. Seems to be in short supply these days.”

HELLO!!!!
How about YOU speak out to your gov’t officials and ask for answers?
Who do you think runs this country?
Simple question.


358 posted on 10/04/2008 6:42:16 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: marlon
I really have to wonder why anyone who made it wealthy in our formerly capitalist system is cheering on marxism do their own demise.

They probably own large estates in foreign countries, so they can leave if need be.

359 posted on 10/04/2008 6:44:43 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: doug from upland
If an American couple is on vacation in France, and the baby decides to arrive early, that child is an American citizen.

Yep, because BOTH parents are American citizens.

360 posted on 10/04/2008 6:47:47 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: snowsislander

bttt


361 posted on 10/04/2008 6:55:25 PM PDT by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE and Help Beat Obama)
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To: Frantzie

Is this the one? Or one of the others?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBgkDSw-wQ0


362 posted on 10/04/2008 6:55:36 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: SkyPilot

Maybe I’m missing something, but did they even use “Arial” font in 1961? Is this a Dan Rather moment?


363 posted on 10/04/2008 6:56:32 PM PDT by alwaysconservative (The Metamucil press (hat-tip Mark Steyn) is ignoring a potentially explosive story!)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

That’s a reasonable explanation. And it gives a good political reason why Obama would want to withhold the information, try to make his enemies look petty and when the truth does come out, it comes in a manner that is most favorable to Obama. Your explanation also covers why the DNC would move in and give him cover.


364 posted on 10/04/2008 7:01:54 PM PDT by Kevmo (McCain's learning from Palin how to win a national election. Palin's learning from him how to lose 1)
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To: Mr Rogers; Cletus.D.Yokel

I’ve always thought this was a bunch of nonsense, but why wouldn’t Obama just have a certified copy of his birth certificate reviewed by the judge?
***That’s one thing that Cletus Yokel’s explanation doesn’t cover very well. Why wouldn’t he do that, if he has a Mohammed-type middle name?


365 posted on 10/04/2008 7:04:36 PM PDT by Kevmo (McCain's learning from Palin how to win a national election. Palin's learning from him how to lose 1)
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To: doug from upland
Berg could raise a significant amount of money if he made an announcement that $100,000 to be given to the first person with proof that Obama was born in Kenya. Even if people have been paid off in Hawaii and Kenya, someone would come forward. Or, make it a million dollars. I would certainly be one of 100,000 Americans who would give 10 bucks.

I'm in! How do we get in touch with him?

366 posted on 10/04/2008 7:10:31 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (McCAIN/PALIN...THE CHANGE AMERICANS REALLY WANT—OBAMA..THE CHANGE THE WORLD'S TERRORISTS WANT)
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To: timestax

I’ll bet GWB could find out.


367 posted on 10/04/2008 7:11:34 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (McCAIN/PALIN...THE CHANGE AMERICANS REALLY WANT—OBAMA..THE CHANGE THE WORLD'S TERRORISTS WANT)
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To: bossmechanic

The original poster was asking about a lawsuit asking the Court to decide which agency is charged with enforcement of election regulations. My ‘rat Congressional delegation won’t do it, and other “gov’t officials” may not have that important requirement of STANDING.

The RNC, however, is well-positioned and well-funded enough to investigate the troubling questions. The real question is whether or not they have the courage to do it.


368 posted on 10/04/2008 7:28:18 PM PDT by alwaysconservative (The Metamucil press (hat-tip Mark Steyn) is ignoring a potentially explosive story!)
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To: alwaysconservative

They did NOT. YES this is a “Dan Rather” moment and it is one of the things that Berg points to in his suit. He has laid it all out for the judge. PRAY HARD.

Lord we ask that you would protect this judge and give him the courage to find in favor of the people. May Obama be FORCED to produce all of the documents that Philip Berg has requested. In Jesus name, Amen.


369 posted on 10/04/2008 7:28:47 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Yo Barry, IF FOR 20 YEARS YOU STAY IN THE PEW, IT'S BECAUSE YOU SHARE THE VIEW!!!!!)
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To: doug from upland

I just found this. A way to help Berg?

http://obamacrimes.com/


370 posted on 10/04/2008 7:30:16 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (McCAIN/PALIN...THE CHANGE AMERICANS REALLY WANT—OBAMA..THE CHANGE THE WORLD'S TERRORISTS WANT)
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To: InterceptPoint

Ya know, FNC really needs to give a little bit of air time to this story.


371 posted on 10/04/2008 7:37:15 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: SkyPilot

It was pointed out in that you tube video that the father’s race would not have been listed as African in 1963. It would have said Negro. Anyone know about that?


372 posted on 10/04/2008 7:40:16 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: Netizen
Ya know, FNC really needs to give a little bit of air time to this story.

It should, but I'd be pleasantly surprised if it did. Maybe Sean Hannity will discuss this case, but only on his radio show. The only way this gets on FNC, or any other TV network, is if Berg wins.

373 posted on 10/04/2008 7:45:37 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: george76

What if he has dual citizenship of America & Indonesia or Kenya or whatever? Can he still be American president?


374 posted on 10/04/2008 8:00:37 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I will call him tomorrow.


375 posted on 10/04/2008 8:02:04 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Sean may bring it up in his special tomorrow night.


376 posted on 10/04/2008 8:08:59 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: alwaysconservative

Do what you can!!
This sign went up on my lawn today.
Not elloquent.
But clearly pointed.
I’m awaiting gunshots through the obvious target but...
I also have cameras setup and ready to go....
plus a saiga 12ga in case it gets interesting.


377 posted on 10/04/2008 8:10:29 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: austinaero

Did Obama say his mother was 17 at some point when making a camparison with Palin’s daughter Bristol??


378 posted on 10/04/2008 8:25:28 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: BIGLOOK
The entire Democrat ticket would be fraudulent and none of the electoral votes cast would count.

Actually, EVs are cast separately for President and VP.

379 posted on 10/04/2008 8:28:34 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When He rolls up His sleeves, He ain't just puttin' on the Ritz)
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To: eddiespaghetti

Not so, according to the law (The Immigration & Nationality Act of 1952, as amended, to be exact).

Someone born overseas with one parent who is a US-citizen is, by law, himself a US citizen at birth IF AND ONLY IF the citizen-parent spent 10 years in the US over the age of 14. (That was later changed to 5 years in the US over the age of 14, but that change took effect decades after Obama was born, and does not help him).

IINM, Obama’s mother was 18 or 19 when he was born. Thus, if he was born outside the US (which includes US-territories, possessions, etc.), then he was not a citizen at birth, and thus, is not a “natural-born US citizen” per the requirements of the Constitution.


She was 18 when he was born.

http://boards.historychannel.com/topic/Current-Events/Obamas-Unwed-Mom/520010822


380 posted on 10/04/2008 8:31:10 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: moose2004
Even wierder scenario. Obama Presidential Votes are nullified, and McCain becomes Pres with Biden as VP.

Precident : In 1872 Horace Greeley, Dem nominee, Died but 3 electors voted for him anyway. those votes were thrown out. Didn't matter because US Grant had a lanslide, but it was an ineligible vote. Be it dead or non citizen, would not be counted by the congress.
381 posted on 10/04/2008 8:40:01 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let's get serious - there is only one choice - McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Amityschild

Why is it so damn hard to verify this man’s birth certificate?

This is the kind of stuff dime store PI’s do everyday without difficulty.


382 posted on 10/04/2008 8:40:51 PM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: Netizen
"Aren’t birth records public knowledge?"

I think I had read that Hawaii won't release anything due to privacy concerns.

383 posted on 10/04/2008 8:43:47 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: RasterMaster
Quite obvious even if Osama Obama was born in Hawaii as he claims (which I don’t believe), that citizenship was given up by his mother when an INDONESIAN citizen adopted him. He’s not a US citizen, naturalized or otherwise.

I think you're right. At the least dual citizenship which makes him ineligible. I doubt he ever renounced Indonesian citizenship and swore to American citizenship at age 18 or older.

384 posted on 10/04/2008 8:46:56 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: Netizen

There have to be a couple of Black Republicans born in Hawaii at the same time... That would be a good comparison


385 posted on 10/04/2008 9:05:44 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let's get serious - there is only one choice - McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: forkinsocket
What if he has dual citizenship of America & Indonesia or Kenya or whatever? Can he still be American president?

Does it matter that Obama was born in 1961 and Kenya didn't gain its independence until 1963?

Is there a time line of his youth? Where he lived from date to date? When he moved to Indonesia and when he left? If he was in Kenya and when he left. When he was in Hawaii and when he left?

A time line would help a lot.

386 posted on 10/04/2008 9:28:37 PM PDT by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: rlferny

Yes, and natural born means you are born to ONE US citizen. Depending on what the other parent is, the one that is a US citizen must have lived in the US so many years, before and after a certain age.

It has NOTHING to do with WHERE the candidate is born.


387 posted on 10/04/2008 9:29:50 PM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: lewislynn
You don't really think the DNC or the courts are going to disclose his ineligibility before the election inauguration do you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

In Berg vs. Obama ( this case), the Federal Court has ordered Obama to produce a COLB within 3 days.

We will have to see.

388 posted on 10/04/2008 9:31:13 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (http://www.theobamafile.com/))
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To: Amityschild
"I should also be suing the national media and their disgrace for not properly vetting, inspecting or checking on Barack Obama.

Go for it, Mr. Berg.

389 posted on 10/04/2008 9:54:50 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: forkinsocket

An American President has to be a native, not naturalized citizen.

If BO was born in Kenya...no.


390 posted on 10/04/2008 10:03:21 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: moose2004

Unless Obama has been sworn in I can’t see any result other than his disqualification. Which would mean the winner is the one with the next highest vote totals, Bob Barr.


391 posted on 10/04/2008 10:09:15 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: I got the rope

Not true. She was only 17 when he was born and you must be 18 to pass on citizenship.


392 posted on 10/04/2008 10:12:56 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: curling

No, the vote goes into the House which votes as states i.e. 50 votes.


393 posted on 10/04/2008 10:15:13 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Biden would not be President if Zero was never sworn in.


394 posted on 10/04/2008 10:18:19 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Because he would be the candidate for the Presidency with the most votes after Zero is disgualified. His electors would be concelled.


395 posted on 10/04/2008 10:19:28 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Candor7

Here’s a link to the court document. If I am reading it correctly through all the legalese, it looks like the DNC motion to dismiss Bergs case has been denied. I have sent this and another article to Drudge. We need to get this to spread like wildfire.
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/13/


396 posted on 10/04/2008 10:22:29 PM PDT by Merlinator (Stop the Obamination!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

There was no question as to their citizenship. Domestic birth, both parents citizens with long traditions easily verifiable.

Why won’t Zero just produce the document? Why don’t you want him to?


397 posted on 10/04/2008 10:23:03 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Netizen

From what I have read O traveled to Pakistan in 1981 presumably with an Indonesian passport
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/13/
He would have been 20 at the time and The Indonesian paaport must be renewed avery five years.


398 posted on 10/04/2008 10:27:40 PM PDT by Merlinator (Stop the Obamination!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

The Senate has nothing to do with the election.

Since the electors are not bound to any cnadidate persumeably they could vote for anyone eligible, including HIllary.


399 posted on 10/04/2008 10:28:25 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: anniegetyourgun
"Whose job is it to determine whether or not a candidate meets the constitutional test? FEC? "

Fannie Mae.

400 posted on 10/04/2008 11:01:02 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Palin/McCain 08- So let it be written, So let it be done!)
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