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DNC steps in to silence lawsuit over Obama birth certificate
World Net Daily ^ | October 4, 2008 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 10/04/2008 9:16:33 AM PDT by Amityschild

The man suing Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee for proof of Obama's American citizenship is outraged that his own party – rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks – would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit.

As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit.

Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away – instead of just providing the documents – the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct.

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To: LegalEagle61

Just heard on Fox that Palin is in Colorado and has started the attacks on Obama/Ayers, she is saying that Obama is paling around with terrorists and hitting hard and says the American people have the right to know! It is starting TODAY!!!!!


251 posted on 10/04/2008 12:05:23 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: SE Mom

You would think that his white grandmother could verify if he was born in Hawaii.

But I can’t recall that we’ve ever heard anything from the grandmother, have we?


252 posted on 10/04/2008 12:05:55 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Jim DeMint: "If you took the name off the top, the Senate could pass the Communist Manifesto.")
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To: Miss Didi

On the other hand- per Carl Cameron on FOX just a minute ago, Sarah talked at length today about Bill Ayers and his connections with Obama!!!

GO SARAH, GO!!!!!!!!!!


253 posted on 10/04/2008 12:06:42 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: DannyTN
Could a lawsuit be launched to force a federal agency to verify Obama's authenticy and provide the proof to the public? ...Sue the FEC

That is exactly what Berg has done and he as sited US Code that gives him the right to sue the FEC to enforce the law.

254 posted on 10/04/2008 12:07:33 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: penelopesire

Maybe McCain should release his BC in a press conference and say for the sake of the country, if a problem were to exist, end this matter, Senator Obama and release yours in full.


255 posted on 10/04/2008 12:09:00 PM PDT by sunmars
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To: razbinn

This is the perfect picture of a very, very sick mentally deranged Madman... No one can dispute that fact. The unbridled arrogance, the uncontrolled disdain, the complete lack of control, the total lack of reality is perfectly represented in this abhorrant portrait of Obama HUSSEIN.


256 posted on 10/04/2008 12:09:16 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN IS AN EMPTY BRAIN and BODY with NO Redeeming Value!)
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To: Frantzie
nObama's actions thus far: 1) making one or more misrepresentations (lying) on his application to take a bar exam, and 2) publicly putting forth a false birth certificate while affirming its veracity should be already be actionable, with the result, assuming these things are proved and/or admitted to before a legal review board (as with BillyJeff in Arkansas), so as to require the revocation of his law license.

Let him see if he can get elected in that circumstance, even if it may be determined that he may be naturally born.

HF

257 posted on 10/04/2008 12:10:02 PM PDT by holden
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To: gimme1ibertee

Maybe I’m not up to speed, but what’s the big deal? Here’s his birth certificate.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg


258 posted on 10/04/2008 12:12:39 PM PDT by loreldan (McCain/Palin '08)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I’m now leaning toward the idea that his mother renounced her own citizenship, hence barry’s too, and granny is being kept out of the lime light because she was none too happy that her daughter did that.


259 posted on 10/04/2008 12:12:59 PM PDT by spacejunkie01
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To: sunmars

Good luck with that..remember.. McCain doesn’t even want anyone to mention Obama’s middle name. (eye roll)


260 posted on 10/04/2008 12:13:22 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: SE Mom
On the other hand- per Carl Cameron on FOX just a minute ago, Sarah talked at length today about Bill Ayers and his connections with Obama!!!

Hence, the Times piece on Ayers today. They know the fight is on.
261 posted on 10/04/2008 12:15:33 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The guy is a complete fraud on so many levels. There is the fake one on his own site- then there’s the factcheck piece about it - photographed from strange angles and that whole article just seems...off.

It seems likely he was born in Hawaii- but the whole birth certificate mystery is confusing. It also seems he was a dual citizen with Indonesia at one time- and the Kenya connection is weird too.

He’s scared me, really scared me, since his acceptance speech in Iowa.


262 posted on 10/04/2008 12:15:54 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: AndyJackson
That is exactly what Berg has done and he as sited US Code that gives him the right to sue the FEC to enforce the law.

Please cite a section of the Consitution which you believe gives Congress the power to create a "Federal Elections Commission" with authority over the manner in which States chuse Electors for President and Vice President of the United States.

"Running for President" is an activity which is invisible to the Constitution. Only AFTER the chusing of the Electors, and the transmission of their votes (the only actual votes which will be cast for Obama), could the courts become involved.

263 posted on 10/04/2008 12:17:07 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When He rolls up His sleeves, He ain't just puttin' on the Ritz)
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To: SE Mom

WOOHOO!! It’s a start!!

LOL...now we know why the NYSLIMES came out with the cover-up article yesterday. Question...who in McCain’s camp is giving info to the NYT on MCCain’s game plan of Sarah adding this info to her speech today?


264 posted on 10/04/2008 12:17:50 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Miss Didi

“Hence, the Times piece on Ayers today. They know the fight is on.”

BINGO! Who told the NYT though? That is what we need to find out. McCain has a mole it would appear.


265 posted on 10/04/2008 12:19:58 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Amityschild
Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away – instead of just providing the documents – the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct.

I have to admit, that is a compelling argument.
266 posted on 10/04/2008 12:20:47 PM PDT by papasmurf (I ain't your Daddy's Conservative, OK?)
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To: Amityschild

Let’s look at this logically. Put yourself in the same situation. If you were running for President and you were being challenged on whether or not you were a natural born citizen, and there were lawsuits out there trying to prove you weren’t, wouldn’t you simply produce your Birth Cert. to close down the whole issue? I know I would. I would shut it down in 2 minutes.

The fact that Obama has not done this is compelling evidence that he is not, in fact, a natural born citizen. I think Berg is on to something here.


267 posted on 10/04/2008 12:22:04 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: lonevoice

This story is continues to be veeery interesting. Wouldn’t you think that the Obama campaign would produce a valid birth certificate to end this continuing saga once and for all? I am going to file this latest information under things that make you go, “Hmm . . . .”


268 posted on 10/04/2008 12:28:25 PM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: Nightshift

GNIP...


269 posted on 10/04/2008 12:29:38 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: I got the rope

It doesn’t matter where he was born. If his mother is American he is an American.

Not so, according to the law (The Immigration & Nationality Act of 1952, as amended, to be exact).

Someone born overseas with one parent who is a US-citizen is, by law, himself a US citizen at birth IF AND ONLY IF the citizen-parent spent 10 years in the US over the age of 14. (That was later changed to 5 years in the US over the age of 14, but that change took effect decades after Obama was born, and does not help him).

IINM, Obama’s mother was 18 or 19 when he was born. Thus, if he was born outside the US (which includes US-territories, possessions, etc.), then he was not a citizen at birth, and thus, is not a “natural-born US citizen” per the requirements of the Constitution.


270 posted on 10/04/2008 12:30:53 PM PDT by eddiespaghetti ( with the meatball eyes)
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To: Amityschild
I havent followed the birth cert story really figuring it had no traction. That said if it ever does get traction there is only one word that will explain it.

CLINTON

271 posted on 10/04/2008 12:31:02 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: SkyPilot

Regarding the version of the Obama document shown, is it me or do all the print features seem to have been poorly pasted over the background hatch markings? If it had actually been printed on the paper, I would expect to see the hatching between the letters where the laser print did not hit. Instead, there is a corona of white.


272 posted on 10/04/2008 12:31:06 PM PDT by plangent
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To: loreldan
"Maybe I’m not up to speed, but what’s the big deal? Here’s his birth certificate."

There is great doubt as to the authenticity of the BC that was posted by the 0bambi campaign:

Unsolved Mystery; Obama's Birth Certificate

New Revelations on Obama's Birth Certificate

Personally, I agree that it is a crude fake and the fact that BHO is stonewalling reinforces my belief in the Berg lawsuit.

273 posted on 10/04/2008 12:31:18 PM PDT by Nasher (BHO: His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: Himself!)
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To: loreldan

That is NOT his birth certificate (and it also may be an altered document according to experts).
A certification of birth is not the same thing, and has much less information that a birth certificate, samples of which are posted earlier in this thread. That is similar to what we have in PA which is a “certification of birth registration” which simply affirms that your birth was registered in the state.
From what I gather there are two issues: NObama’s father was not a US citizen, giving NObama dual nationality. And members of NObama’s family in Kenya (including his grandmother) say he was actually born there and that his mother later came to Hawaii to register his birth.


274 posted on 10/04/2008 12:31:22 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (The day begins and ends in Alaska.)
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To: Amityschild

275 posted on 10/04/2008 12:34:19 PM PDT by ponygirl
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To: 1rudeboy

I’ve wondered that.


276 posted on 10/04/2008 12:35:07 PM PDT by PghBaldy (MENTAL HEALTH PARITY! That will sove the credit crisis! /sarc)
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To: penelopesire; Miss Didi

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/04/palin-accuses-obama-palling-terrorists/

Sarah Palin, using some of her strongest language to date to question the character of the Democratic presidential nominee, accused Barack Obama of “palling around with terrorists” Saturday at a closed fundraiser in Colorado.

She was referencing a front-page story in The New York Times that examined Obama’s ties to Bill Ayers, a founder of the 1960s radical group The Weather Underground.

The group took credit for bombings, including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol four decades ago.

“Our opponent, though, is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect — imperfect enough that he’s palling around with terrorists who would target their own country,” Palin said. “Americans need to know this. ... I think, okay we gotta get the word out. This is in fairness to the electorate we gotta start telling people what the other side represents.”

Obama served on a charity board with Ayers in Chicago and has denounced his past activities.


277 posted on 10/04/2008 12:36:17 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: rfreedom4u

Definition of a Constitutional Crisis.


278 posted on 10/04/2008 12:36:34 PM PDT by PghBaldy (MENTAL HEALTH PARITY! That will sove the credit crisis! /sarc)
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To: jester221
Apparently “the one” has relatives who say he was born in Kenya.

Forgive me if this has been covered elsewhere in this thread, but has anyone looked into whether there is evidence that Obama's mother traveled to Kenya around the time of his birth?
279 posted on 10/04/2008 12:39:47 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Jim DeMint: "If you took the name off the top, the Senate could pass the Communist Manifesto.")
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To: SE Mom

Look at google already....lol

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%E2%80%9Cpalling+around+with+terrorists%E2%80%9D+&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=


280 posted on 10/04/2008 12:40:39 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: MadLibDisease

bookmark


281 posted on 10/04/2008 12:45:10 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (Proudly residing in Dar-al-Harb since 1959)
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To: Frantzie

Uh, hate to burst your bubble, but Mr. Berg is no real Patriot. He is a 9/11 truther. He even sued George Bush.

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/01/philip-j-berg-nutbar-supreme.html

Here are some things he said about Bush and Cheney.

“Bush and his cronies made 9/11 happen or let it happen. And, if they let it happen, then they made it happen. Either way, they are responsible; and more important, they have completely and unequivocally covered-it-up!” - Philip J. Berg

Don’t give any money to him.


282 posted on 10/04/2008 12:47:45 PM PDT by RatsDawg (I love Palin :))
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To: danamco

GREAT post! Thank you.


283 posted on 10/04/2008 12:48:10 PM PDT by PghBaldy (MENTAL HEALTH PARITY! That will sove the credit crisis! /sarc)
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To: SE Mom; STARWISE; Miss Didi

Did you guys see this over at NRO:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDk0ZTk2ZjQxMjBkYTk3YmYzMTM2NTcyMWI5NzdkMDc=

More terrorists pals of Obama! BUSTED!!


284 posted on 10/04/2008 12:49:41 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: SE Mom; Miss Didi; STARWISE

Should have put a FLASHBACK notice on the post. From May.


285 posted on 10/04/2008 12:52:21 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
Which hospital?"

Do you really think any state would issue a BC not having the indisputable fact of the hospital where the birth occurred?

At this point, for the state to divulge at which hospital it might occurred--if it's not already widely known--would only add to the pool of people who could be bribed and/or come forward to make potentially false representation, looking for their 15 minutes of fame, e.g., a former worker at such hospital.

In short, there's no "need to know" on the part of anyone other than the judge and parties to the lawsuit.

HF

286 posted on 10/04/2008 12:54:14 PM PDT by holden
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To: red irish
It means the end of (trust in) the DemocRat party for decades.

As has been said, "Whom they gods intend to destroy, they first make crazy!" If that's true, we certainly see that the antecedent has been set in motion.

HF

287 posted on 10/04/2008 12:57:38 PM PDT by holden
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To: doug from upland

In Obamanation book, the author seemed positive that little Barrack was born in Hawaii after his father deserted his mother. They had met and mated in Hawaii.

Far as I know the loving couple weren’t together again, so how and why would the Mom have gone to Kenya to give birth when her meal ticket (her parents) were in Hawaii?

She was pretty young then to be running around pregnant.


288 posted on 10/04/2008 12:58:41 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1993905/posts)
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To: eddiespaghetti

This is very interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Services_Act_of_1965

I’m going to research this some more.


289 posted on 10/04/2008 1:02:11 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Liberty Valance
yOU MUST CONSIDER THIS FACT. The election on Nov 4 selected the candidates to the electoral college. They will vote in December at a meeting as to who is actually elected. It could be that Democratic Hillary will spring the issue of eligibility after Nov 4 and thus permit them to vote for her. Remember, she never did concede to Obama during the primary phase.
290 posted on 10/04/2008 1:03:39 PM PDT by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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To: RatsDawg

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Berg may be a crackpot, but the reactions of the Obama campaign and the DNC to his lawsuit sure looks fishy. A few kernals of truth hidden in this situation may in the end make popcorn. Wouldn’t that be interesting?


291 posted on 10/04/2008 1:08:22 PM PDT by Jenny217 (Competition defines and refines a person. It really is nothing to be afraid of. ItÂ’s said the only)
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To: Amityschild

He’s Gonna CHANGE the World, He is the One.


292 posted on 10/04/2008 1:14:11 PM PDT by tomnbeverly (Night of the Obama Zombies.)
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To: Jenny217; Frantzie

I agree!

But Frantzie called Berg a real patriot, even though I agree with what he is doing to Obama, I wouldn’t call him a real patriot by any means.


293 posted on 10/04/2008 1:15:55 PM PDT by RatsDawg (I love Palin :))
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To: WVNan

I am convinced that if Obama wins then we are indeed at the end times, I believe it really is all in God’s hands now.


294 posted on 10/04/2008 1:16:51 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: combat_boots
What would such a situation do to the country and its people? What would they do now if this proved true?

Well, I think we would be rejoicing and the left would be crying and rioting. If that were the case, now I'm just guessing here...maybe they would ask Hill to step in and put her name on the ballot? It would be another unprecedented occurrence in our time.

295 posted on 10/04/2008 1:19:28 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (Michelle Obama...Queen of the Damned (courtesy of CougarGA7)
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To: doug from upland

If an American couple is on vacation in France, and the baby decides to arrive early, that child is an American citizen.

That’s true but I read somewhere the point of contention was that Obama’s mom at the time of his birth was 17(?) and therefore, was not qualified as an adult and that since he was not born in America, he was at the least a citizen of wherever she happened to be. He may in fact be a dual-citizen. There was mention of a law passed since then that supposedly closed that loophole (being below the age of consent) and now it’s true it doesn’t matter what the age of the mom is, if she is a citizen, the baby is a citizen. IF the underage thing is the case, it raises the possibility Obama is/was a dual-citizen, which is not allowed in regards to pursuing the presidency. That’s why I think this story still has legs.


296 posted on 10/04/2008 1:19:41 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: I got the rope

Natural born has been defined by Congress. It can include those born abroad under some circumstances. Obama’s mother would have been to young to qualify, however.


297 posted on 10/04/2008 1:20:24 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Government that is powerful enough to protect you is only one election away from attacking you.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Natural born has been defined by Congress.

The Congress can't legislatively define a part of the Constitution. For example, read City of Boerne v. Flores (1997)

298 posted on 10/04/2008 1:28:02 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Amityschild

So, the DNC IS willing to throw the Jewish Vote under the Bus....another good reason to NOT absentee vote! You just can’t be sure when he’s gonna throw your vote under the bus (Black Panthers take note).


299 posted on 10/04/2008 1:28:35 PM PDT by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free)
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To: Jim Noble; Congressman Billybob
Let's suppose Obama wins the election and it's discovered he'd never been a legitimate candidate in the first place. Most think Biden would assume the office but wouldn't that be a stretch?

The entire Democrat ticket would be fraudulent and none of the electoral votes cast would count.
300 posted on 10/04/2008 1:28:50 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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