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Al Qaeda hit by Black Death fear as medieval plague kills 40 terrorists at training camp
DailyMail ^ | 1/19/09 | DailyMailReporter

Posted on 01/19/2009 7:07:22 AM PST by Sammy67

Al Qaeda terrorists have been left fearing the Black Death plague after it wiped out at least 40 insurgents at an Algerian training camp, it was reported today. The horror disease, which killed 25 million people in medieval Europe, is understood to have been found in a militant’s body dumped at a roadside. Terror group AQLIM (al Qaeda in the Land of the Islamic Maghreb) was forced to turn its shelter in the Yakouren forests into mass graves and flee, it has been claimed.

Now al Qaeda chiefs are said to fear the plague has been passed into other cells - and possibly Taliban fighters in Afghanistan. Many insurgents may choose to surrender for treatment rather than die a horrible death. ‘This is the deadliest weapon yet in the war against terror,’ a security source told The Sun: ‘Most of the terrorists do not have the basic medical supplies needed to treat the disease. ‘It spreads quickly and kills within hours. This will be really worrying al-Qaeda.’

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To: wbill
Patients with plague in the modern era usually recover completely with prompt diagnosis and treatment.

Yes, but there has long been concern among modern public health authorities about the ability to cope with large scale outbreaks of the disease. In particular, there are fears of inadequate supplies and availability of the effective antibiotics in such an event. No one is stocking these antibiotics in the huge quantities that will be necessary in such an event, because we in the modern world have yet to see it. But it is theoretically possible, both in scenarios of biological attacks and quick natural spread of the pneumonic form of the disease in densely populated urban areas.

141 posted on 01/19/2009 2:09:18 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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"This is the deadliest weapon yet in the war against terror," a security source told The Sun: "Most of the terrorists do not have the basic medical supplies needed to treat the disease. "It spreads quickly and kills within hours. This will be really worrying al-Qaeda."
...but of course, it's not a deadly weapon, because it sounds like a natural outbreak. Really breaks my heart though. /sarc

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142 posted on 01/19/2009 2:12:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Medieval people killed by a medieval disease.

True, al-Quaida is medieval or even pre-medieval in its outlook. But to consider plague "a medieval disease" is an oversimplification. Although it did the bulk of its devastation in the 1300s, as the article states, it was never completely eradicated, even in the US. Occasional cases have always occurred, even in modern developed countries.

143 posted on 01/19/2009 2:20:01 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Uncle Ike

Please see my post # 141.


144 posted on 01/19/2009 2:21:48 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Sammy67

“Test Subjects?”

That’s the first thing I thought of. Don’t know if you could pull this off without rats (we’ve got plenty in this country) and fleas.


145 posted on 01/19/2009 2:21:52 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: muawiyah

http://www.answers.com/topic/bubonic-plague

Apparently not hard to weaponize.


146 posted on 01/19/2009 2:24:50 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Salgak

Rats is Rats.


147 posted on 01/19/2009 2:26:25 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Sammy67

I hope they’re not blaming the poor rats for the fleas. More than likely, the rats caught the fleas from the terrorists.


148 posted on 01/19/2009 2:27:21 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Centurion2000; SunkenCiv

You are correct to some extent. However, you are assuming that the virus has not been modified.


149 posted on 01/19/2009 2:31:09 PM PST by Perdogg (Only the hypnotized never lie)
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To: Ancesthntr; muawiyah; LucyT
...the implication is there is now a very resistant flea that can make it from Afghanistan to North Africa, and then spread the infection to local fleas.

The much more likely explanation is that some al-Quada operative picked up the disease fron a flea bite in Afghanistan, and it eventually went to his lungs. That "martyr" traveled to meet his buddies in North Africa, where he spread the disease around by coughing in close quarters with those comrades. So many in the North African cell got the plague that way. In other words, far more likely that "human" (note the quotation marks) travel spread it between continents than flea travel.

150 posted on 01/19/2009 2:33:42 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: SunkenCiv
it's not a deadly weapon, because it sounds like a natural outbreak.

No, it was a bio-weapon.

Infected fleas were dispensed by infiltrating brave Special Ops volunteers, who knew their odds against survivng were virtually nil, but went in anyway.


151 posted on 01/19/2009 2:39:17 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: wolfcreek
The fleas are the hard part. They die quite easily in just a few days without a suitible host. My understanding is that humans are not "suitible", so you need a rat.

Envision an AlQaida trainee taking along a rat on an airplane ~ obviously doesn't work ~ too much surveillance, so envision the same trainee taking along a bunch of rats in rat cages on a ship ~ maybe an oil tanker.

More likely it was a liquid natural gas tanker using Western Backwaters LNG facility. That'd get you from Karachi to Algeria.

More than likely you'd need a compliant captain to let you take a long and care for the little critters.

152 posted on 01/19/2009 2:48:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Not the cats, Slings and Arrows would never ping me again if I did that.

And I would ping you on top of your noggin! ;-')

Ground squirrels, jackrabbits, prairiedogs: God placed them here for a reason.

Target practice!

153 posted on 01/19/2009 2:49:59 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: usmcobra

Methinks Someoneth dideth.


154 posted on 01/19/2009 2:59:41 PM PST by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: Sammy67
Could not happen to nicer people.

Thank you God.

155 posted on 01/19/2009 3:01:00 PM PST by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: justiceseeker93; painter; wbill
I think that the plague is treatable - isn't it bacterial, and able to be treated with penecillin?

Tetracycline


In particular, there are fears of inadequate supplies and availability of the effective antibiotics in such an event. No one is stocking these antibiotics in the huge quantities that will be necessary in such an event, because we in the modern world have yet to see it.

Yeah; I doubt my very available OTC Terramycin (oxytetracycline) calf scours tablets would help much; the stuff that works is much less needed, so considerably more limited in production.

From Mayo Clinic's page on Plague:

Medications
As soon as your doctor suspects that you have plague, you'll need to be admitted to an isolation room in a hospital. There, you'll receive powerful antibiotics directly into your veins (intravenously) or your muscles (intramuscularly) for seven to 10 days. Streptomycin and gentamicin are the most effective drugs against plague. Other alternatives include intravenous doxycycline (Vibramycin) and chloramphenicol (Chloromycetin).

156 posted on 01/19/2009 3:06:40 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Perdogg; ApplegateRanch

Yes I am. :’) The Plague is more or less always around in hot wet spots, such as riverine country in India, Bangladesh, and the Nile delta, some other spots. Probably gives some idea where the recruits (at least some of them) came from.

Nice squir-al-qaeda photo, AGR. :’)


157 posted on 01/19/2009 3:17:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Sammy67; justiceseeker93
Certainly there's a parallel between the plagues imposed by G-d on the ancient Egyptians in Exodus and this specific plague now being suffered by the al-Qaeda population. Both the ancient Egyptians and al-Qaeda sought or seek to harm G-d's chosen people.

The first seven plagues are in this week's reading, the final three in next week's.

As Rabbi Lapin has so often noted, contemporary events seem to echo the weekly Torah reading.

158 posted on 01/19/2009 3:22:44 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . koh 'amar HaShem, shallach 'et-`ammi veya`avduni!)
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To: Ancesthntr

It’s the insecticides that stop them.


159 posted on 01/19/2009 3:23:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: txnuke

Heh, me too. This is one of those times when being a good Christian is very trying for me. I don’t want to feel compassion for the bastids....they can twist in the wind.


160 posted on 01/19/2009 3:38:13 PM PST by WVRockDJ (Mountaineer by birth; USMC by choice; Christian by Grace.)
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