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Obama to Propose Massive Greenhouse Gas Tax
Saturday, February 21, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 02/21/2009 5:36:16 PM PST by kristinn

Barack Hussein Obama will propose a massive business tax on greenhouse gases in his FY 2010 federal budget to be presented this week.

The massive tax increase and power grab was buried at the end on article on Obama's forthcoming budget proposal in The New York Times:

On energy policy, Mr. Obama’s budget will show new revenues by 2012 from his proposal to require companies to buy permits from the government for greenhouse gas emissions above a certain cap. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the permits would raise up to $300 billion a year by 2020.

Since companies would pass their costs on to customers, Mr. Obama would have the government use most of the revenues for relief to families to offset higher utility bills and related expenses. The remaining revenues would cover his proposals for $15 billion a year in spending and tax incentives to develop alternative energy.

The proposal is in keeping with a policy announcement candidate Obama made in 2007, as reported then by The Times:

"No business will be allowed to emit any greenhouse gases for free," Mr. Obama said in Portsmouth, N.H. "Businesses don’t own the sky, the public does, and if we want them to stop polluting it, we have to put a price on all pollution."

Obama famously said in 2008 he would make American citizens' electricity rates skyrocket under his plan:

"What I've said is that we would put a cap-and-trade system in place that is more -- that is as aggressive if not more aggressive than anybody else's out there, so if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can, it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.

"When I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know, under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.

Regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad, because I'm capping greenhouse gases, coal-powered plants, you know, natural gas, whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money, they will pass that money on to consumers. If you can't persuade the American people that, yes, there's going to be some increase in electricity rates on the front end, but that over the long term because of combinations of more efficient energy usage and changing lightbulbs and more efficient appliances, but also technology improving how we can produce clean energy, that the economy will benefit. If we can't make that argument persuasively enough, you -- you can -- you can be Lyndon Johnson, you can be the master of Washington, you're not gonna get that done."

Obama, of course, has no intention of persuading the American people, he's going to ram his Marxist agenda up their tailpipes.


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To: livius

The time for running is over. Whether you call it the mother instinct, patriotism, or just plain common sense. The time to stand and fight is upon us.


281 posted on 02/22/2009 9:23:21 AM PST by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: livius
This may be of interest if you haven't seen it.

Saving America

282 posted on 02/22/2009 9:27:35 AM PST by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: Girlene

“It’s just trying to put these companies out of business on some notion that government can force ....”

Bingo!!! As the president of the Czech Republic has accurately stated...it’s the new communism.


283 posted on 02/22/2009 9:52:57 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: kristinn

We do not even need to tax greenhouse gases if global warming is the threat that Algore says it is.

All we would have to do is set off hundreds of megatons of hydrogen bombs at the Nellis test site (TTAPS study). That would be much less detrimental to the economy.


284 posted on 02/22/2009 10:08:40 AM PST by dbz77
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To: kristinn

Well, those of you/us who have a lot of gas within had better be careful too. Will we have to wear monitors???


285 posted on 02/22/2009 10:13:06 AM PST by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: BenLurkin

Yes, I believe that’s why he was chosen for the White House, to destroy America.


286 posted on 02/22/2009 10:13:33 AM PST by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Diogenesis

Nancy looks downright orgasmic.


287 posted on 02/22/2009 10:14:54 AM PST by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: LottieDah

Ah, two great minds but on a single thought!


288 posted on 02/22/2009 10:16:27 AM PST by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: kristinn

“On energy policy, Mr. Obama’s budget will show new
revenues by 2012 from his proposal to require companies to buy permits
from the government for greenhouse gas emissions above a certain cap.
The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the permits would raise
up to $300 billion a year by 2020.”

Since even the NYTimes acknowledges, in the next paragraph, that
businesses must transfer costs to consumers, this means every man,
woman and child in the US will pay, on average, close to $1,000 a year
more for goods and services due to this hidden tax.

But it gets better: “Mr. Obama would have the government use most of
the revenues for relief to families to offset higher utility bills and
related expenses...”

So this is redistribution, period.


289 posted on 02/22/2009 10:17:59 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (1st call: Abbas. 1st interview: Al Arabiya. 1st energy decision: halt drilling in UT. Arabs 1st!)
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To: bigheadfred

Yes, I read that this a.m. - I was impressed. You never know where leadership is going to come from.

That said, at this point, I’d be more inclined to run, like the few aware Jews did at the rise of Hitler, if only there were someplace to run to. The problem is that we’re it. There’s no place else to go. Historically, people always ran here, but overnight, we’ve turned into a tyranny. Granted, everything isn’t quite in place yet, but it won’t take long for Bambi to consolidate his position.

I really don’t know what’s next.


290 posted on 02/22/2009 10:20:14 AM PST by livius
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To: DesertRhino

We are trapped in a lifeboat with a deranged man. who has started to smash apart the boat,,,,

Much like the phrase in ghetto culture “keeping it real”. Badass in the lifeboat who always has to show off his “street cred” shoots a hole in the bottom of the lifeboat, and says “just keepin’ it real, man”.

This is not going to end peacefully.


291 posted on 02/22/2009 10:40:33 AM PST by Fred Hayek (Leftism is a mental disorder.)
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To: livius

If it comes comes down to it I will die fighting. If you have ever had the opportunity to visit a Nazi Death Camp, please do so. Fortunately I live in Idaho, away from a lot of the craziness. Obama and his minions want open revolt, so they can get martial law. If that happens, I don’t know what will go down, but it won’t be pretty.


292 posted on 02/22/2009 11:10:08 AM PST by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

What do you expect from a radical “community organizer”?


293 posted on 02/22/2009 11:43:05 AM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: FUBO

oops, my bad
have a nice day


294 posted on 02/22/2009 12:08:33 PM PST by hyperconservative (Bravo, Mr. Santelli!)
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To: kristinn
Let Zero and his minions enact their globull warming plans.

Within a year, EVERYTHING will grind to a halt, the government will be broke, and the citizens starving.

IF, we still have a country by 2010....

295 posted on 02/22/2009 12:12:15 PM PST by dirtbiker (Obama is America's first Affirmative Action president....)
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To: kristinn

Ike’s great insight on the Battle of the Bulge was that the Nazi offensive would eventually over-extend itself and be subject to a devastating counter-attack. The same thing is happening here. Logic, History, Economics and Common Sense all indicate that 0bama’s schemes will massively fail. When they do, we must be ready for a political counter-offensive that will push the country further to the right than we now dare dream.


296 posted on 02/22/2009 1:02:12 PM PST by Lou Budvis ( 'Benjamin Franklin and Jefferson are rolling in their graves.')
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To: Red Steel
2 years of Obama, people will have had enough of "change" that will result in a 60+ seat House landslide loss for the rats.

In October, I was concerned that ofter 2 Barry Soetero terms, we would be facing a Venezuelan or North-Korean style election where we would be asked whether or not we wanted to retain our dear leader in power.

Now, I am not totally convinced that there will even BE a 2010 election.
297 posted on 02/22/2009 1:24:13 PM PST by tpmintx (Do not read my tagline.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

He wasn’t saying ‘change.’ He was saying ‘chains.’


298 posted on 02/22/2009 1:26:20 PM PST by IbJensen (In 2008, Americans foolishly used their freedom to vote for “chains” not “change.”)
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To: Just A Nobody
Aha! I'm not the only one who has thought of that. heh

Thanks for the link. I missed that thread.

299 posted on 02/22/2009 1:38:24 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Marysecretary
Nancy looks downright orgasmic

BAAAARF!!

300 posted on 02/22/2009 1:48:58 PM PST by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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