Skip to comments.Birds Didnít Evolve from Dinosaurs (Evos forced to invent an even older common ancestor!)
Posted on 06/09/2009 5:33:16 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
June 9, 2009 The findings add to a growing body of evidence in the past two decades that challenge some of the most widely-held beliefs about animal evolution. That statement is not being made by creationists, but by science reporters describing work at Oregon State University that cast new doubt on the idea that birds evolved from theropod dinosaurs. The main idea: their leg bones and lungs are too different.
Science Dailys report has a diagram of the skeleton showing...
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The Earth is old. Get used to it.
I dunno—our birds seem to think they are dinosaurs. They certainly have no fear of attacking people.
Yet another myth blown apart!
Maybe they weren't listening? I remember discussing much of what's in this article nearly 20 years ago.
I think birds are classed with the crocidilians, not necessarily with the velociraptors, although they, too, developed feathers.
In the meantime, of course, the HMS Creation is shipshape, standing tall, battle ready, and is ready to take on the next materialist religion that tries to masquerade as science.
Notice how they are getting blown apart at an ever-increasing rate. Man would I hate to be a Temple of Darwin devotee right now!
So, a question for the CREOs, did God make a mistake when he created bird DNA which he then fixed when he made mammalian DNA?
Since we are talking about origins, and not science, everything that happened has “evidence” — the evidence is the forensic observable evidence from which we can speculate as to the causes which led to those observations.
Confusing origins with imperical science is a common error.
They were too busy ridiculing people who didn’t believe the hype to realise they were wrong.
In computer science, some programs have really small number of lines of code, and some have lots of code. Both seem to function according to their respective purposes, and few people argue that only one of the two is correct, and the other is a mistake.
Tell me again why so many people place so much faith in scientists?
That’s not true in theology. Hence the question. Let’s see what the CREO hardliners have to say ~ no doubt they’re furiously searching the internet trying to see if this one has ever been asked before.
So tell me, which of these changes were developed by “creation scientists”? None.
Which of these changes were developed by theologians from biblican revelation? None.
Science learns from evidence. Creationism denies the evidence.
The blueprint for a single engine Cessna is simpler than the blueprint for one of their twin engine Citations. Does that Cessna made a mistake when it created the single engine plane, which they then fixed when created the Citation???
The mountains around here are very ancient ~ among the oldest ~ except, of course, for the even older mountain chain buried under thousands of feet of solid rock in Indiana!
Those suckers are OLD.
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The disclaimer on the website you used for reference should not use links if it does not check the accuracy of the content. It does not show much faith in the information that it publishes.
Are the Cessna design engineers GOD?
Regarding how birds breathe, I recall lectures in college in 1963 that pretty well covered the waterfront about how birds breathe and what they have to do and not do to keep on breathing.
Actually, the methods of Evos were used to evaluate these characteristics, and the methods of Creationistas had nothing to say at all.
So who is irrelevant?
More and more I am realizing that seeing the truth of evolution and even the value of science is a gift of enlightenment. There is no way you can convince anyone, since they have all the same evidence and still cannot see it. Ponder: Why were there only three Magi?
Heh, heh. That's kinda my point. How can we be sure the age of other mountain ranges are accurate?
I place no faith in scientists when it comes to stuff like the age of the earth and evolution and the origin of life.
When it comes to those things, they don't know jack. They just make stuff up as they go along.
One camel, of course.
To say that it was first thought that evolution took a particular path, and with more knowledge they think it took a different path does not falsify evolution, it falsifies young earth creationism.
Plus, the mountains had to first be made (uplifted), then sunk below sea level (which was much easier "way back when" since virtually no land at all was above sea level ~ we've lost that water to the interior of the planet.
Then, the limestone producing critters had to produce it and it had to sink to the bottom and cover the mountains.
Today those layers of limestone are thousands of feet thick in places.
No, they are not. But they are made in His image.
The point is, just because a biological organism is simpler than another organism does not mean that it was a mistake. Humans come up with simple designs for specific purposes all the time. Why should said simpler designs imply a mistake just because they are simple?
The History Channel depicted dinosaurs looking like colorful feather dusters with legs. Keeps up they’ll need new names like: Chickasaurus and T. Featherbeddus.
Astronomers could decide to call Pluto a “zgnorph” and it would make absolutely no difference to science or the scientific method.
Tell you again why people place so much faith in scientists?
The moon shot
the atomic bomb.
I fear for that segment of America taught to hate and fear that which they, by their own willing ignorance, will never understand.
People have confidence in science because its findings are replicable, subject to peer review, and revision in light of new data.
People have confidence in science because it works and has a demonstrated record of success.
For instance, create birds first, then examine design and improve it by designing land animals on the next day ~ and maybe reflect on that bird design to come up with the dinosaur design?
I suggest you take a good look at WHAT Genesis says God creates on each day and think about that in terms of what was going on in God's mind when he "improved", "changed", "fixed", "adjusted" etc. His designs for critters.
We can look at the record (and whether it appeared in an hour or a billion years doesn't matter), the first land animals appear before birds appear! Yet, Genesis has the birds appearing a day before the land animals.
Did God perhaps turn the entire surface of the Earth UPSIDE DOWN to trick us, or what?
Amen. People would place blind faith in scientists regardless.
There’s evidence some dinosaurs had feathers. They’re just modified scales ~ another form of hair!
Darwin did not decry his own theory, neither would it be relevant if he did.
Newton shouting out on his death bed that “Force equals mass times acceleration CUBED” wouldn't change the fact that force equals mass times acceleration squared was in fact the truth.
Lady Hope was just another “liar for the Lord” like the idiots in Dover. She has zero credibility.
It’s not a gift, it’s a curse.
The “evidence” is that all of the evolution theories don’t hold up under scientific scrutiny.
Only a small fraction of we creationists are tied to “young earth”.
Odd interpretation of that verse, that one is cursed by understanding evolution and science. Anyway, we’ll have to ask Paul when we meet him.
==You are suggesting there’s some sort of “time sequence” in God’s plan of creation?
==I suggest you take a good look at WHAT Genesis says God creates on each day and think about that in terms of what was going on in God’s mind when he “improved”, “changed”, “fixed”, “adjusted” etc. His designs for critters.
God didn’t have to improve, change, or fix anything:
Genesis 1:31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morningthe sixth day.
Uh, the article supports evolution. It also tears down your mantra about how evolutionists all think alike ...
Because they design the equipment that you use to post with.
I am assuming that by that statement you are an OEC. Do you think YEC'rs are looney?
But it never says swarms of the awed and curious either. There were not lots of people who realized something was breathtakingly different in the heavens, as the constellations swept on by as usual but one humongous star stayed where it was. Magi by definition are not the hoi polloi. Few, if not three, probably.
Therefore, evolution is true? The earth is the result of a random cosmic explosion? Life began in a swamp? Global warming is a consequence of man-made activity? Your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather was a baboon?
Wow. I wishes I was as smart as you science worshippers.
Can't even get the OEC’s to say they think that the Geocentrics are loons.
They take umbrage at properly being placed in the same category; but they won't say why they think it is an insult.
“Well, seeing how the Evos are in full retreat on just about every conceivable front”
Keep on tokin’ my man.
There will be no need to ask anyone anything when we join Paul: