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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: rxsid

More disinformation being thrown out to create confusion and a diversion to keep us from focusing on the objective —unmasking this phony SOB.


9,551 posted on 08/17/2009 12:36:18 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: rxsid

WTF????? Age; 52?

Is this real?


9,552 posted on 08/17/2009 12:36:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: GregNH

Wow! There are so many lies surrounding that guy, guess it’s not hard to understand he (and those around him) have a difficult time with facts (whatever they may REALLY be).


9,553 posted on 08/17/2009 12:42:32 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: iontheball
Yup.

Because this is the ultimate Constitutional question (regarding Barry):

"HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’S STATUS BE “GOVERNED” BY GREAT BRITAIN?"
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/07/29/the-relevant-obama-admission-2/

9,554 posted on 08/17/2009 12:47:08 PM PDT by rxsid
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This is a great picture

"The latest billboard in the "Where's the birth certificate?" campaign is up for gawkers in the city of billboards – Las Vegas, Nev.

Right smack dab in front of the plush Mandalay Bay Hotel on Mandalay Bay Drive tourists will be greeted with the most vilified message in the White House and media today. "

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106908

9,555 posted on 08/17/2009 1:40:34 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’S STATUS BE “GOVERNED” BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Wonder what Harry R. thinks about the billboard in his back yard. . .


9,556 posted on 08/17/2009 3:25:29 PM PDT by Faith
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To: Faith

Wow, hadn’t thought about that. Good question!


9,557 posted on 08/17/2009 4:30:06 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: little jeremiah

Unless we see the BC, who knows? Maybe that guy in Cuba, that claimed to be his daddy is in the running? ;~)


9,558 posted on 08/17/2009 5:41:18 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama; BP2; Fred Nerks

?? Has this ever been suggested or checked out?
(Photo url below reader’s comment. Someone, please post actual picture.)

from a Reader’s comment in a news article I was reading. (emphasis is the reader’s) -—

“There are many questions about BHO and his days at Columbia. We know from his own writings that he used drugs during that period and that his roommate was an illegal alien from Pakistan who was a long term drug abuser.

Obama’s grandparents visited him in New York when he graduated. A close-up of his left hand shows a WEDDING RING! What is this all about? Later, in 1986, he visits Kenya to meet his fathers’s relatives. He is still wearing the same wedding band! Again, what is the story behind this strange sign?”

http://www.rollingstone.com/photos/gallery/19066990/barack_obama_a_photo_history/photo/6


given all the aliases, who knows


9,559 posted on 08/17/2009 9:28:24 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm

9,560 posted on 08/17/2009 9:36:55 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Hold down Ctrl and scroll your mouse to enlarge above picture.


9,561 posted on 08/17/2009 9:38:18 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: thouworm; BP2; Fred Nerks; hoosiermama; Tennessee Nana; David; LucyT; afraidfortherepublic

Follow-up to previous post: another reader comment:

“There was one little blurb that mentioned that Barack Obama had lived for a year with a female while attending college in New York. I never saw a confirmation. Perhaps the liberal media is covering it up? Has anyone else information on this?”


or, in LA?


9,562 posted on 08/17/2009 9:40:25 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: afraidfortherepublic

TY, afraid: Can you also point me to post or url on FR url that shows how to italicize, change fonts, post pictures. I had it at one time, but never used it & can’t find.


9,563 posted on 08/17/2009 9:45:09 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Lots of gays wear wedding rings even though they are not legally married...


9,564 posted on 08/17/2009 10:10:49 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: All
"Birth certificate fraud: It's been done before FBI, Department of Justice have record of bribe scandal

How can an official certification of live birth be obtained if the person on the document wasn't born in the state or even in the country the document was issued?

Actually, it's been done before.

In 2004, following a long investigation by the FBI and Department of State, Jean Anderson, the former deputy registrar of the Hudson County, N.J., Office of Vital Statistics, pleaded guilty to taking money for falsifying county records.

According to a Department of Justice news release, Anderson was paid to insert phony birth records for illegal aliens into the files at her county office. The immigrants, in turn, approached county window clerks and requested copies of their birth certificates, after which the clerks looked to the files and, upon seeing the records Anderson had inserted, issued fraudulent birth certificates unknowingly.

Federal agents executed a search warrant of the HCOVS in February of 2004, resulting in the seizure of hundreds of suspect birth certificates listing birthplaces in Jersey City, N.J, when in fact, the individuals named were immigrants born outside the U.S."

Continued here:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=107200

Not surprising in the least.

9,565 posted on 08/17/2009 10:58:00 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: afraidfortherepublic

he may have never been there...

9,566 posted on 08/17/2009 11:35:17 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: Fred Nerks

I get such a kick out of your ‘visual aids’. Where’s that reversed right hand placed on the left shoulder by papa Stanley? What? You mean you didnt realize the pic of three with the hand over Barry’s left shoulder was the right hand reverse (negative turned over and made positive) and placed over the shoulder? pfffft


9,567 posted on 08/17/2009 11:41:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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Now you know why I don't try to do photoshop.
9,568 posted on 08/17/2009 11:42:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: PhilDragoo

kudos was meant for you, Pro! Luv the visuals.


9,569 posted on 08/17/2009 11:44:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: thouworm

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/938739/posts


9,570 posted on 08/17/2009 11:45:57 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Well, now you’ve done it!


9,571 posted on 08/17/2009 11:48:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN; Fred Nerks

Angle of Grandpa’s shoulder is also all wrong for him to be extending and placing his hand on another shoulder.


9,572 posted on 08/17/2009 11:49:13 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: MHGinTN

LOL!


9,573 posted on 08/17/2009 11:50:28 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: MHGinTN; PhilDragoo

I knew you meant Phil, not me...ages ago, I stared at that image of the three of them...sitting there...and it wasn’t the hand I noticed...it was just so darned obvious that the original had to be of Stanley Armour and Madelyn sitting together.

The middle one was so obviously added later...

I asked PhilDragoo (bless you, there’s no one does it like you do) to take the interloper out...and Presto!

PhilDragoo pointed out the strange hand of course, and the arm, how long must that be?

But you are the first who has definitely, simply, believably, logically if not to say Brilliantly! explained HOW THAT FUNNY HAND CAME TO BE THAT WAY!


9,574 posted on 08/18/2009 12:10:01 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: Jet Jaguar; LucyT; MHGinTN; Fred Nerks; BP2; Polarik; hoosiermama


I lied, it's true

My history false but Bought and Sold

and still there's no clue


The new definintion of Slavery.

9,575 posted on 08/18/2009 12:35:37 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Government needs a Keelhauling now and then.)
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To: MHGinTN; Fred Nerks
dba Obama magically appearing between his Communist grandparents like a canister of microfilm in Alger Hiss' pumpkin patch.
9,576 posted on 08/18/2009 12:54:25 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: thouworm

Discussed on “long “ thread....Started wearing it when he was at Occidental....possibly when he became involved with Hal (now of Seattle). Not been able to confirm what Hal’s current life style is....


9,577 posted on 08/18/2009 1:10:26 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: All

Sen. Orrin Hatch interview by Patriot’s Heart Network on 4 Aug, 2009. The Honorable Sen. Hatch appears confused and misinformed on the definition of “natural born citizen”. There is no definition i...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZubQOmnex8g


9,578 posted on 08/18/2009 6:09:30 AM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect NOBODY)
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To: GregNH

I watched both Hatch and Bennett being interviewed by this group. No allies there!


9,579 posted on 08/18/2009 7:42:00 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Fred Nerks

Re #9566

Now that is frightening (and funny). I knew that the photo with the three of them on the bench had been photoshopped but had never seen the one with the Dunhams sitting together. Mr. D.’s arm and hand now look normal.

Is there any information about B.O. that has not been dry-cleaned and sanitized?


9,580 posted on 08/18/2009 10:16:27 AM PDT by Faith
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To: PhilDragoo

Now that WAS an interesting historical reference. Showing your age, Phil?... Oops, I’ve shown mine by knowing what you’re referencing.


9,581 posted on 08/18/2009 10:47:36 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: thecodont
Whatchyoutalkinbout ... if gramps’ left forearm is twice as long as his right forearm, he could easily have his elbow down and his hand above Barry's shoulder!
9,582 posted on 08/18/2009 10:50:57 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: GregNH

What a maroon! He even blurred the definition he stated (incorrectly) to include anchor babies with no American citizen parent! No wonder the Senate Judiciary committee is Leahy’s private promotion network, Hatch is too stupid to be opposition.


9,583 posted on 08/18/2009 11:00:06 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: All
Update on the Keyes v. Obama case and filing of the (alleged) Kenyan B.C. (copy of):

PLAINTIFFS’ OBJECTIONS TO MAGISTRATE JUDGE ARTHUR NAKAZATO’S ACTION OF AUGUST 6, 2009 and MOTION FOR REVIEW PURSUANT TO CDCA L.R. 72-2.1:

NO TRANSFER NOR CONSENT NOR ORDER OF REFERENCE AUTHORIZED THIS MAGISTRATE’S SUA SPONTE ORDER OR INVOLVEMENT IN THIS CASE—MOTION TO RECUSE 28 U.S.C. §455(a)

Judge Arthur Nakazato’s order of August 6, 2009, is a nullity without lawful force or effect because it was entered without any prior transfer nor order of reference, nor by the consent of the parties, pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §636(b)(1)(A) and Rule 72(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Plaintiffs are concerned, and first and foremost generally object to Judge Nakazato’s August 6, 2009 order (shown as Document 35) in “Case: 8:09-cv-00082-DOC-AN As of: 08/17/2009 06:55 PM PDT” because Judge Nakazato’s hyper-formalistic order appears to be inconsistent with Judge David O. Carter’s oral assurances in court on July 13, 2009, that this case would be allowed to proceed on the merits without undue regard to technicalities.
The motion submitted was extremely important and the technicalities enumerated seem unworthy. The first violations of the local rules which Judge Nakazato listed was the form of the “Notice of Motion” required by Central District of California L.R. 6-1 and L.R. 7-4: Plaintiffs did not check their calendars to select which Monday was their Motion day. While omission was a fair criticism on the Magistrate Judge’s part, L.R. 7-4 states that “the court MAY decline to consider a motion unless it meets to requirements of L.R. 7-4-7-8.” In the context of this case, where none of the Defendants had actually appeared or answered as of yet, and in which Judge Carter had previously set hearings sua sponte without reference to the “Notice of Motion” rule or schedule, Judge Nakazato’s UNAUTHORIZED order striking the Plaintiffs’ Motion seems unduly severe and prejudicial.
In regard to L.R. Rule 11-3.3 regarding form and format: pagination, Plaintiffs submit that their failure to paginate was a printing error, and that in fact they were unaware that their motion had no numbers until this was pointed out by the Court, because on their computer screen, the Motion was fully compliant with: “L.R. 11-3.3 Pagination. All documents shall be numbered consecutively at the bottom of each page.” More perplexing, however, is Judge Nakazato’s reference to Rule 11-3.6: “L.R. 11-3.6 Spacing . The typing or printing on the document shall be double spaced, including citations and quotations.”
Even after carefully examining the three subparts of L.R. 11-3.6 in some detail, Plaintiffs submit that their August 1, 2009, Motion was entirely in compliance with Local Rules 11-3.6, 11-3.6.1, 11-3.6.2, and 11.6.3. In any event, Plaintiffs’ First Amended Motion for Issuance of Letters Rogatory is currently being prepared. 28 U.S.C. §455(a)

MOTION TO RECUSE MAGISTRATE JUDGE ARTHUR NAKAZATO

As noted above, Judge Arthur Nakazato’s order of August 6, 2009, seems entirely incompatible with Judge David O. Carter’s oral pronouncements made both literally and figuratively ex-cathedra in open court on Monday, July 13, 2009, that he intended to take this case concerning the qualifications of Barack Hussein Obama to serve as President of the United States seriously and see that the merits of this case would not be obscured by trivial technicalities. As the United States Supreme Court has held (per Justice Scalia) that …favorable or unfavorable predisposition can also deserve to be characterized as “bias” or “prejudice” because, even though it springs from the facts adduced or the events occurring at trial, it is so extreme as to display clear inability to render fair judgment. (That explains what some courts have called the “pervasive bias” exception to the “extrajudicial source” doctrine. See, e.g., Davis v. Board of School Comm’rs of Mobile County, 517 F.2d 1044, 1051 (CA5 1975), cert. denied, 425 U.S. 944, 48 L. Ed. 2d 188, 96 S. Ct. 1685 (1976).)

Liteky v. United States, 510 U.S. at 551, 114 S.Ct.at 1155, 127 L.Ed.2d at 488 (1994). Plaintiffs submit that Judge Arthur Nakazato’s order, entered without any prior order of reference, without the consent of the parties, and without an order of transfer from the District Judge, shows in its content and tenor a disloyalty to Judge Carter’s promise and in fact a disregard (with regard to the pagination 11-3.6 issues) a complete disregard of the actual compliant nature of the motion attacked. If the Court believes that these Plaintiffs’ counsel has in any way violated Local Rule 11-3.6, the Plaintiffs’ pray that the Court will instruct counsel on the nature of the violations.
The reality is that a firestorm broke loose on the internet and electronic media generally on August 2-5 concerning the document attached to Plaintiff’s August 1, 2009 Document 34 as Exhibit A. Plaintiffs’ counsel was subjected to verbal abuse including death-threats and that this firestorm was unjustifiably fed and fanned by Judge Arthur Nakazato’s order. The reality of this case is that respect for the importance of the issues involved, such as the respect shown by Judge David O. Carter on July 13, 2009, is the only hope for a fair and just resolution in the best interests of the people of the United States.

PRAYER FOR RELIEF

WHEREFORE, Plaintiffs pray that the United States District Court will sustain their objections to Magistrate Judge Arthur Nakazato’s order entered Thursday August 6, 2009, which objections are submitted within ten business days as allowed by Rule 6(a)(2), and that the Court will set together the Plaintiffs’ Motion for Review of Judge Nakazato’s order together with the Plaintiff’s Motion to Recuse Judge Arthur Nakazato for hearing prior to the 24 days after service required by local Rule 6-1 and 7-4 which yields an “ordinary” Motion day of September 14, 2009. Respectfully submitted,

Monday, August 18, 2009

By:________________________________

Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. (SBN 223433)

Attorney for the Plaintiffs

26302 La Paz, Suite 211

Mission Viejo, California 92691

Telephone (949) 683-5411

E-Mail: dr_taitz@yahoo.com

"http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=3906"

9,584 posted on 08/18/2009 11:45:11 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Excerpts from:

BIRTH CERTIFICATE FRAUD. Department of Health and Human Services OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL. JUNE GIBBS BROWN Inspector General, SEPTEMBER 2000, 0EI-07-99-00570.

FINDINGS

Fundamental, Irreconcilable Conflicts Surround Birth Certificate Purposes and Uses

Birth Certificates Continue to be Used as “Breeder Documents” and are Easy to Obtain
Virtually all Federal and State agencies agree that fraudulent birth certificates are used as “breeder documents” to obtain the genuine documents needed to create new identities, and that fraudulent birth certificates are easy to obtain. Factors which contribute to their use as “breeder documents” include the following:
currently, 6,422 different entities issue birth certificates. This large number of State, county, city, township, and other entities that issue birth certificates increases opportunities for fraud, theft, bribery, and other methods of illegally obtaining birth certificates;
thirteen States allow “open” access to birth records, which allows virtually anyone to purchase copies of any birth certificates on file; and
birth certificates can be purchased without identification from some vital records offices and issuing entities.

Birth Certificate Fraud is Hard to Detect
Many altered or counterfeit birth certificates and genuine birth certificates held by imposters may go undetected. The reasons why these fraudulent birth certificates are hard to detect include the following:
over 14,000 different versions of birth certificates are in circulation;
nearly 4 million United States births were registered in 1999;
security features contained in the paper used to issue birth certificates, as well as formats and signatures, vary among State vital records offices and the many local entities issuing them;
technological advances in the Internet, scanners, color printers, and copiers make it easier to obtain genuine birth certificates and create counterfeit ones;
between 85 and 90 percent of the birth certificate fraud encountered by the Immigration and Naturalization Services and Passport Services staff is the result of genuine birth certificates held by imposters — the most difficult fraud to detect; and
Federal and State agency staff report receiving only limited training focused on the detection of fraudulent birth certificates.

Birth Certificate Fraud

State Practices Create Opportunities for Fraud
It was the consensus of those we interviewed that a number of State practices create opportunities for fraud. Those practices include the following:
delayed, amended, and midwife birth registrations that are based on affidavits of personal knowledge, include no documentary evidence, and are not often marked or overlaid accordingly;
delays in matching death and birth records can make the identities of many deceased persons easy to assume between the time the person dies and the time the death and birth records are matched;
questionable physical security situations that create opportunities for fraud; and
limited oversight of local issuing entities by State vital records offices.

Birth Certificate Fraud is Seldom Prosecuted
Virtually all of the Federal and State agency staff we talked with indicate birth certificate fraud is seldom prosecuted unless it can be linked to large dollar losses or other punishable crimes. Most staff also indicate that many prosecutors are reluctant, or refuse to take birth certificate fraud cases in which the only charge is attempting to obtain another individual’s birth certificate, or counterfeiting or altering a birth certificate. At the same time, misconceptions exist surrounding the security and integrity of birth certificates.

CONCLUSIONS

Birth Certificates Alone do not Provide Conclusive or Reliable Proof of Identity
Many agencies and organizations request that individuals provide their birth certificates to receive a benefit or service, or to support the issuance of other documents often used for identity purposes (e.g., driver’s license). However, agencies who rely on birth certificates as a means of establishing identity must understand the limitations of accepting a birth certificate as proof of age, citizenship, or identity. For example, genuine documents obtained with counterfeit birth certificates can be used to obtain genuine birth certificates. Thus, it is inherently illogical to require someone to prove their identity using potentially fraudulent identity documents spawned by false birth certificates in order to obtain a birth certificate.
Further, it would be Impractical to Redesign Birth Certificates to Make them Reliable Identification Documents in and of Themselves


9,585 posted on 08/18/2009 12:25:38 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Simply amazing, and destructive to our nation. And now, it goes all the way “to the top.”


9,586 posted on 08/18/2009 12:49:02 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: hoosiermama

Hal - not the Pakistani guy he’s pictured sitting really close to on the couch? The guy who’s into... theater?


9,587 posted on 08/18/2009 1:09:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

One and the same.


9,588 posted on 08/18/2009 1:12:10 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: rxsid; BP2; David; LucyT; STARWISE; Fred Nerks; penelopesire

Monday’s action by Orly at post 9584.


9,589 posted on 08/18/2009 1:17:51 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

Why does her pleas say “Monday, August 18, 2009”? Monday was August 17, 2009.


9,590 posted on 08/18/2009 2:25:11 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: hoosiermama

“Theater”. Lotta homosexual men in theater.


9,591 posted on 08/18/2009 2:39:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Who knows, it’s Orly.


9,592 posted on 08/18/2009 2:48:09 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: little jeremiah

FR mail.


9,593 posted on 08/18/2009 2:49:27 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: BP2; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; ...
Check out #9,349.
9,594 posted on 08/18/2009 7:51:12 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: MHGinTN

Now, for some reason the unenlightened people of UT believe in Orrin G. Hatch.


9,595 posted on 08/18/2009 7:55:08 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: David

The abuse wasn’t to Stanley Ann Dunham. It was to his second American wife, American-born teacher named Ruth Nidesand, who lived with him in Kenya and divorced him because of his drinking and abuse.
He then went back to Kezia, his Kenyan wife.


9,596 posted on 08/18/2009 9:48:11 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: LucyT

Bump Dat...


9,597 posted on 08/18/2009 11:24:09 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Fred Nerks; hoosiermama; little jeremiah; thouworm

OMG; I thought you were kidding til I read the other posts & then looked at the picture again. I have encountered more scrubbed sites, 404’s, and non-existent urls on wayback machine in the last 2 days than I have in the last 15 yrs combined-—not to mention conflicting information. I was interested in the periods he most tried to hide or disguise of the early days -— Ann, post-baby in Washington; his 80’s trip to Kenya; & Columbia U.

Is his true story ever going to come out?!! I came across a mention that Fox News had interviewed 400 former Columbia U. classmates and not one remembered him.

Are you suggesting he may never have gone to Columbia U? What about Phil Boerner’s credibility?

Phil Boerner ’84: “We both transferred from Oxy to Columbia in fall 1981. Barack had found an apartment on West 109th Street, between Amsterdam and Columbus, and suggested that I room with him.....After that first semester, we had to move. Barack tried to find an apartment for both of us, but was only able to find a studio for himself. I was able to house-sit in Brooklyn Heights....

Through different living arrangements in Astoria, Queens; Bay Ridge, Brooklyn; and all over Manhattan, we stayed in touch and remained friends for the rest of our college years. He got to know my girlfriend from Arkansas, who is now my wife. Since I last saw him in 1985, we have exchanged a few letters and photos. He left for Chicago, and I eventually settled in Sacramento.”

http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct/jan_feb09/alumni_corner


“In about 1982, [(Hal) Sohale] Siddiqi and Obama got an apartment at a sixth-floor walkup on East 94th Street. Siddiqi managed to get the apartment thanks to subterfuge.

Siddiqi said his female friends thought Obama was “a hunk.” “We were always competing,” he said. “You know how it is. You go to a bar and you try hitting on the girls. He had a lot more success. I wouldn’t outcompete him in picking up girls, that’s for sure.”

The Obama campaign declined to discuss Obama’s time at Columbia and his friendships in general. It won’t, for example, release his transcript or name his friends. It did, however, list five locations where Obama lived during his four years here: three on Manhattan’s Upper West Side and two in Brooklyn — one in Park Slope, the other in Brooklyn Heights.

His memoir mentions two others on Manhattan’s Upper East Side.”

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=F1C46FDE-3048-5C12-00ED1702A906DC5F


Early in his campaign I was telling friends & family he was a Trojan Horse; I’d rather be wrong.


9,598 posted on 08/18/2009 11:35:27 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm

you’re not wrong...however, what I meant by ‘maybe he was never there’ was on the bench in the park.

For some reason...it appears to have been necessary to place him between the grandparents, and the only reason I can think of, is that they were estranged.


9,599 posted on 08/18/2009 11:57:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: MestaMachine

Abusive men usual do not just abuse one wife. It is a pattern for them..... Often accompanied by alcohol and womanizing. Sr fits the pattern. It is confirmed in BO’s own words in the Columbian article.


9,600 posted on 08/19/2009 2:55:57 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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