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Sorry, Vegans: Brussels Sprouts Like to Live, Too
NY Times ^ | December 21, 2009 | NATALIE ANGIER

Posted on 12/22/2009 1:39:23 AM PST by neverdem

I stopped eating pork about eight years ago, after a scientist happened to mention that the animal whose teeth most closely resemble our own is the pig. Unable to shake the image of a perky little pig flashing me a brilliant George Clooney smile, I decided it was easier to forgo the Christmas ham. A couple of years later, I gave up on all mammalian meat, period. I still eat fish and poultry, however and pour eggnog in my coffee. My dietary decisions are arbitrary and inconsistent, and when friends ask why I’m willing to try the duck but not the lamb, I don’t have a good answer. Food choices are often like that: difficult to articulate yet strongly held. And lately, debates over food choices have flared with particular vehemence.

In his new book, “Eating Animals,” the novelist Jonathan Safran Foer describes his gradual transformation from omnivorous, oblivious slacker who “waffled among any number of diets” to “committed vegetarian.” Last month, Gary Steiner, a philosopher at Bucknell University, argued on the Op-Ed page of The New York Times that people should strive to be “strict ethical vegans” like himself, avoiding all products derived from animals, including wool and silk. Killing animals for human food and finery is nothing less than “outright murder,” he said, Isaac Bashevis Singer’s “eternal Treblinka.”

But before we cede the entire moral penthouse to “committed vegetarians” and “strong ethical vegans,”...

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“Even if you have quite a bit of knowledge about plants,” Dr. De Moraes said, “it’s still surprising to see how sophisticated they can be.”

It’s a small daily tragedy that we animals must kill to stay alive. Plants are the ethical autotrophs here, the ones that wrest their meals from the sun. Don’t expect them to boast: they’re too busy fighting to survive.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: biology; health; plantbiology; plants; vegans
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"Ethical autotrophs" is the last sign of decadence, IMHO.
1 posted on 12/22/2009 1:39:24 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

My nephew is dating a vegan. She is doing this thinking she will stay slim. Unfortunately, her ethics doesn’t extend to chocolate chip cookies.

I agree with you about the ‘ethical autotrophs’. They take silliness to celestial levels!


2 posted on 12/22/2009 1:45:31 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: neverdem
My dietary decisions are arbitrary and inconsistent

At least this one admits she's a deluded kook. That sets her apart from most.

3 posted on 12/22/2009 1:45:41 AM PST by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: SatinDoll

Just don’t tell her that there’s eggs in the cookies. :D


4 posted on 12/22/2009 1:49:50 AM PST by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: neverdem

Sheep and silk worms don’t have to die to provide their raw material; what’s so moral about not using wool or silk? Absurd!


5 posted on 12/22/2009 1:55:32 AM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: neverdem

Read the article. It is most fascinating how plants attract dragonflys; etc., to deal with meddlesome insects feasting on them.


6 posted on 12/22/2009 1:55:53 AM PST by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: neverdem
Plowing an acre of land for a vegetable garden kills and destroys the habitat of millions and millions of insects and worms and other small animals.

Allowing a steer to graze on it and then killing the steer for slaughter results in far fewer animal deaths.

7 posted on 12/22/2009 1:58:29 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama: The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers)
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To: skr

IIRC, silk worms are steamed inside their cocoons, after which the silk can be unwound.


8 posted on 12/22/2009 2:02:44 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: muir_redwoods

It takes a lot of chickens to equal the meat in a steer. She could save more lives by eating beef. Maybe she should consider eating whale.


9 posted on 12/22/2009 2:07:01 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: neverdem

10 posted on 12/22/2009 2:08:13 AM PST by uglybiker (BACON!!)
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To: neverdem

The only answer for these types really appears to be suicide. They’d stop consuming even plants, which apparently this person regrets. They’d begin *feeding* other lifeforms as well. Actually there’s endless parasites and symbiotes eating on all humans all the time, so she’s on the plate as well currently and down the road.


11 posted on 12/22/2009 2:09:38 AM PST by Tolsti2
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To: neverdem
Plants are the ethical autotrophs here, the ones that wrest their meals from the sun.

Tell that to the Venus Fly Trap. Damn murderers!


12 posted on 12/22/2009 2:11:02 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 4 days away from outliving Lefty Frizzell)
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To: neverdem
L Ron proved tomatoes feel pain LONG ago as well. I assume she'll follow this as well:

13 posted on 12/22/2009 2:11:11 AM PST by Tolsti2
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To: piasa

I knew I shouldn’t have assumed! Too lazy to do research. Thank you for the correction and blechhh, what a way to go. The vegans, etc., may be as indignant as they want about the worms. Uh oh, I just looked. Horrors, silkworm moths can no longer fly because of our dastardly intervention! Who knew? They are doomed to a hot, bubbly death instead of bulb-burn syndrome or ingestion by some other creature. Ahh, such is life.


14 posted on 12/22/2009 2:21:07 AM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: neverdem

how can you eat a plant? It’s so cruel. Plants can’t even move away from you when you try to eat it.


15 posted on 12/22/2009 2:50:11 AM PST by ari-freedom (Global warming is the biggest scientific hoax since the Piltdown man.)
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To: SamAdams76

16 posted on 12/22/2009 2:52:04 AM PST by ari-freedom (Global warming is the biggest scientific hoax since the Piltdown man.)
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To: SamAdams76

Plants are the ethical autotrophs here, the ones that wrest their meals from the sun.

She needs a bowl of Caster Bean soup. One spoonfull nd she would be joining Sadam. However all plants wrest they food from the earth and process it with the help of the sun.


17 posted on 12/22/2009 2:53:49 AM PST by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: neverdem

It is bizarre that vegans avoid wool. Nobody kills sheep to get wool fibers to wear.

Instead they urge the use of petroleum based fibers or plant materials that must either be raised with a lot of pesticides or undergo considerable chemical processing to become useful as fiber.


18 posted on 12/22/2009 3:14:40 AM PST by finnsheep
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To: neverdem

19 posted on 12/22/2009 3:42:31 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: neverdem

Liberal vegans are clods. I always tell them they’re insensitive and dense because they can’t hear a carrot cry when pulled from the ground. And eating an alfalfa sprout sandwich is like listening to a plant version of the Gettysburg battle. They scream all the way down through your gullet.


20 posted on 12/22/2009 3:51:47 AM PST by sergeantdave
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