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Pagans celebrate winter solstice on the wrong day
Telegraph ^ | Dec 23 2009 | Martin Evans

Posted on 12/25/2009 4:14:30 AM PST by Brugmansian

Pagan worshippers, who braved freezing dawn temperatures to celebrate the winter solstice at Stonehenge, were dismayed to discover they had turned up on the wrong day . . .

Pagan leader Arthur Pendragon said: "It is the most important day of the year for us . . ."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: archaeoastronomy; druid; druids; godsgravesglyphs; martinevans; megaliths; oops; pagans; solstice; stonehenge; unitedkingdom; wintersolstice
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1 posted on 12/25/2009 4:14:31 AM PST by Brugmansian
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To: Brugmansian

Well, duh!


2 posted on 12/25/2009 4:16:18 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Crouching Tiger. Hidden fire hydrant.)
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To: Brugmansian

As usual the no brain non thinking crowd showing their stupidity.


3 posted on 12/25/2009 4:16:34 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Brugmansian

Brilliant!


4 posted on 12/25/2009 4:20:55 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: Brugmansian

Well, in college one year I showed up a day early for the Fall semester.

Got dressed, carried my books, pulled into the parking lot .... wondered why it was so empty. Then, carried my books all the way to the deserted campus. A custodian chuckled “You here a day early, arncha?”

I never told my boss, who gave me the day off.


5 posted on 12/25/2009 4:23:07 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Brugmansian

It was on two days. 22 and 23rd.


6 posted on 12/25/2009 4:23:17 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
This crowd is always looking for the Solstice. What they ought to first discover is "the shortest day of the year" (in terms of hours of Sunlight).

That would be much more meaningful ~ and it would also be more reflective of what ancient people did.

7 posted on 12/25/2009 4:44:56 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Brugmansian

RUH ROH


8 posted on 12/25/2009 4:48:45 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: Brugmansian

Perhaps they should just celebrate George Castanza’s “Festovus” holiday, started by his dad. Just as valid as the pegan party.


9 posted on 12/25/2009 4:50:43 AM PST by truemiester ((If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years))
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To: Brugmansian
FP

Pagan leader Arthur Pendragon said: "It is the most important day of the year for us because it welcomes in the new sun. There were hundreds of people there. If we'd celebrated on the 21st it would have been the right day but the wrong sun – when the whole point of the occasion is about welcoming in the new sun. I did about three handfasting ceremonies, which are pagan marriages, and we've said prayers for world peace. It's a new beginning..."

Psychobabble defined
10 posted on 12/25/2009 4:59:31 AM PST by PowderMonkey (Will work for ammo.)
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“It is the most important day of the year for us . . .”

Yeah,,,so important you can’t figure out when it is....


11 posted on 12/25/2009 5:01:13 AM PST by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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To: AppyPappy
It was on two days. 22 and 23rd.

No the "official" solstice, according to the U.S. Naval Observatory was December 21, 2009 at 17:47 UT. The formal definition of the solstice is not particularly intuitive, but it would be safe to say that the date of the solstice corresponds, more of less, to the day when the noon day sun is as low in the Northern Hemisphere sky as it will get all year. The Pagans appear to be correct on this one.

For people living in time zones more than 6 hours and 13 minutes ahead of Greenwich, the December Solstice will indeed have occured on December 22, since the clock already passed midnight.

This graph illustrates the effect of the Gregorian Calendar leap year schedule on the UT date of the solstice. The four year leap year period accounts for most of the difference between the mean solar year and 365 days. Every hundred years we skip a leap year to correct for the century long drift of about a quarter of 3/4 of a day per century and every 400 years (e.g., 2000) we skip skipping a year to account for the quarter of a day difference that would accumulate over the centuries.

Unfortunately, the mean solar year is not exactly 365.2425 days, nor any rational fraction of a day nor even constant. A future pope will have to reform the calendar again.

12 posted on 12/25/2009 5:04:35 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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To: Brugmansian
And they'd already sacrificed their captives and buried the heads under standing stones oriented on the wrong day.

I just hate it when that happens.

13 posted on 12/25/2009 5:05:46 AM PST by sphinx
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To: Brugmansian
Pagan leader Arthur Pendragon said: "It is the most important day of the year for us . . ."


14 posted on 12/25/2009 5:06:46 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Big government more or less guarantees rule by creeps and misfits.)
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To: Brugmansian
The beginning of Ramadan is defined as the instant the new moon shows a sliver of reflective sunlight. The designated observer is some Caliph out of Mecca

This year Iran's Grand Ayatollah made the declaration a day earlier frosting millions of Sunnis.

15 posted on 12/25/2009 5:13:15 AM PST by AU72
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To: Skooz

Once in elementary school I walked all the way to school through the snow, wondering why the streets were so empty of other kids, and arrived at school to find the doors closed for a snow day.

Kind of a weird feeling, as I remember it. (I was only 10 or 11 years old.)


16 posted on 12/25/2009 5:17:52 AM PST by samtheman
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Pagan leader Arthur Pendragon said: "It is the most important day of the year for us because it welcomes in the new sun. There were hundreds of people there. If we'd celebrated on the 21st it would have been the right day but the wrong sun – when the whole point of the occasion is about welcoming in the new sun.
In what sense is the sun "new"? In what way is the sun itself affected by the tilt of the earth and the earth's position in its own orbit?

Stupid as astrology, and equally meaningless.

17 posted on 12/25/2009 5:20:45 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Brugmansian

It’s always 5:00 somewhere, so — it was right day, wrong place.


18 posted on 12/25/2009 5:37:47 AM PST by LussaO
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To: Brugmansian

HO! HO! HO!


19 posted on 12/25/2009 5:59:28 AM PST by Larsen E. Whipsnade
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I am assuming that Mr. Pendragon has changed his name from something more mundane. The original 'Arthur Pendragon' was King Arthur, who was, as the stories tell us, a Christian.,

He should have had Merlin double check his almanac.
20 posted on 12/25/2009 6:01:54 AM PST by jmcenanly
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