Posted on 12/27/2009 10:55:42 AM PST by kristinn
On November 19th, Rush Limbaugh caused a stir when he mentioned PrisonPlanet.com on his radio show and linked to them on his website, touting their article 'With Hurricanes At Thirty Year Low, Gore Turns To Photoshop'.
By the end of the day, though, Limbaugh or his handlers had tried to erase all signs of the endorsement, as Paul Joseph Watson pointed out in his article Rush Limbaugh Censors Mention Of Prison Planet From His Own Archives. Watson noted "Any links to the Prison Planet.com story, which were prominently featured all over Limbaugh’s website, have also been deleted and replaced with a similar story by Newsbusters, a Neo-Con news website. What caused Limbaugh to order the material removed? Our guess is that he was probably bombarded with e mails from the legions of virulently retarded Neo-Cons that make up the audience of phony right-wing websites like Free Republic, on which all Alex Jones material is aggressively banned".
In the fourth hour of his November 20th radio show, Alex Jones covered the issue, playing clips and showing screenshots indictaing Limbaugh's duplicity. Paul Joseph Watson, author of both articles, appeared on air to discuss the issue:
Watson: "He's even edited his own trancript to take out the part where he says prisonplanet.com .. So I think he probably, him or the people who run his website started getting a ton of emails yesterday afternoon from these FreeRepublic type neocons who really hate our guts; and any Alex Jones material is aggressively banned from FreeRepublic and those kind of websites. And he just probably got a lot of emails and eventually just removed it; and it's gone it's memory holed."
Jones: "But see all FreeRepublic and Rush Limbaugh and people are doing by being neocons is making themselves obsolete and not even pertinent in the debate. I mean Limbaugh and others are still saying there's no world government, when it's openly being announced. All we're doing is covering what's really happening. and we don't want to be enemies with any of these people, and we understand they're part of the fake right wing, you know, that has to keep conservatives and libertarians on the reservation, on their plantation. But we're here to bring liberty we're here to unlock minds. And we're here to expose the fact that our Republic is falling and imploding. And I want to encourage Rush Limbaugh listeners and supporters to come find the real deal here.
"I mean we're no compromise for this country and freedom and the constitution and the Bill of rights. and we're not gonna attack Ron Paul and stab him in the back. We're the real deal. And dont allow yourself to be co-opted by Rush Limbaugh..."
The Austin, Texas radio host ended the hour by calling out Limbaugh and other fake right-wingers.
Jones: "We don't need you to link to us Rush Limbaugh. You understand that? You're the old fake conservative dinosaur. We are the future.I've financed this whole thing with my listeners. I have no big corporations supporting me. I've built all this with the support. You see Rush Limbaugh making films every 6 months? You see Rush Limbaugh having the number one videos online over and over and over again? No. He had the military industrial complex go give him 600 radio stations. He's hooked up with the CIA on record.
"So go ahead Limbaugh, keep acting like youre the real patriot, and continue; Hey I think its good you're starting to go further. But we're forcing him to go further. This guy all these decades, twenty years has been denying new world order, denying global government. It was his job to keep you asleep while all this was being built. And now hes trying to take on some of our political coloration to stay relevant, okay. We're the future Limbaugh, and you know it and Glenn Beck knows it. And if you want to be the future, wake up and become a patriot. But you cant do that; you can just act like it enough to fool people because you're a creature of the new world order. thanks for the plug, Rush".
In June 2006 Limbaugh, who in recent years has had a gaggle of neocon government-apologist imitators join him on the talk show circuit, was detained at a Florida airport with an illegal Viagra prescription, after returning from a trip to the Dominican Republic.
Hannity, meanwhile, told actor Chuck Norris that Ron Paul is nuts, then a few weeks later called Ron Paul supporters extremists and said that we wouldn't have free speech if it weren't for the "military industrial complex".
Glenn Beck, who was touted by Sarah Palin as a possible running mate if she were to run in 2012, has demonized Ron Paul and his supporters for years, even comparing them to terrorists, while at the same time aiming to attract a constitutional type audience.
. In 1999, Before garnering an reputation for being a staunch Republican apologist, Free Republic owner Jim Robinson had a surprisingly critical opinion about George Bush, who was then running for president:
"So, it doesn't matter if he snorted coke as a youth? It was a long time ago, a youthful in-discretion? Kinda like people who frequented sneakeasies during prohibition? Kind of a cute story, eh? Well, how about all the people whose lives have been destroyed by being arrested for the felony of drug possession? What about the millions of people who are rotting away in your filthy drug infested prisons at this very moment?
"Well, by God, if you people insist on electing another cokehead as President, you damned well better throw open all the prison cell doors and free every man, woman, and child you're holding on drug charges. And if you're gonna elect another drug felon as President, you'd better rescind each and every one of your unconstitutional drug laws now on the books, including all of your unconstitutional search and seizure laws, and your asset forfeiture laws, and your laws that enable your unconstitutional snooping into our bank accounts and cash transactions. Well, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You people are sick! Conservatives my ass. You people are nothing but a bunch of non-thinking hypocrits! You're a shame and a disgrace to the Republic!
"And, I, for one, am tired of taking orders from cokeheads and felons! Elect another one and I'll tell you what. I'll be ready for war! It'll be time to take up arms and run the filthy lying bastards out!" In 2004, Robsinson was questioned as to whether the quote attributed to him was legitimate, and replied in the affirmative: "Guilty as charged. It was a sarcastic reply to an absurd Wall Street Journal op ed piece that was promoting the idea that it doesn't matter if US presidents are illegal drug users. Naturally, I objected."
Occasionally a topic with Infowars content will make it to FreeRepublic such as this one about Obama Joker posters, yet ironically, with over 200 replies, doesn't seem to have one mention of Alex Jones, PrisonPlanet.com, or Infowars.com.
A whole host of internet discussion forums are available as alternatives, some of which have been started by posters who were either banned or left FreeRepublic voluntarily. Other liberty forums focus on libertarian ideology, news and were centered around Congresman Ron Paul's run for the presidency. Here is a partial list: http://www.strike-the-root.com/
http://www.lucianne.com/
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
http://www.originaldissent.com/
http://www.freedomunderground.org/
http://www.libertyforum.org/
http://www.libertypost.org/
http://libertysflame.com/
http://the-peoples-forum.com/
http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/
http://waronyou.com
http://OpEdNews.com
http://Freedom4um.com
http://dailypaul.com
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/
And of course, the classic libertarian site LewRockwell.com, which has my previous article at the top of their front page today.
Listen to the audio of the 11/20 Alex Jones clip below.
YouTube video of Alex Jones attacking Free Republic and Rush Limbaugh.
Wow. How long did it take you to write that?
Of course :-)
Alex Jones is a patriot and a pretty sharp guy. Unfortunately he went off the rails into conspiracyville.
Awwww, somebody call a wahmbulance for the Paulies.
Maybe some cheese to go with their whine?
Alex Jones and the SF Examiner????? BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.....surely you mean this as a method for getting us all to laugh——right?
C'mon kristinn...you know that stormfront marched in public in Palm Beach county Fl for G.W. Bush during the disputed vote count in 2000. And 500 dollars from Don Black makes Paul compromised by stormfront? You are better then this weak association-guilt claptrap.
So it would seem that Ron sees himself as a potential leader in Paleoconservatism?
“Conservatives” have spilt into as many sects as liberals.
At this stage, the winds of change are howling around the family and many more are coming. We have desiced to batten down the hatches and hope for the best, which is unlikely to happen.
Pray that this Nation can survice.
What would possess him to include democraticunderground as a “good” site?
And people say I’m long-winded.
LOL
I read and listen to FR/Rush on my own free will. No one keeps me on a plantation.
BTW, I really never heard of these guys—except once in a while the infowars stuff I’ll see.
Are they the new John Birch’s, seeing conspiracy even in conservatism?
Professor Ortega y Gasset analyzes this state of mind extremely well. The mass-man, he says, confronting the phenomenon of the State,
“sees it, admires it, knows that there it is. . . . Furthermore, the mass-man sees in the State an anonymous power, and feeling himself, like it, anonymous, he believes that the State is something of his own. Suppose that in the public life of a country some difficulty, conflict, or problem, presents itself, the mass-man will tend to demand that the State intervene immediately and undertake a solution directly with its immense and unassailable resources. . . . When the mass suffers any ill-fortune, or simply feels some strong appetite, its great temptation is that permanent sure possibility of obtaining everything, without effort, struggle, doubt, or risk, merely by touching a button and setting the mighty machine in motion.”
It is the genesis of this attitude, this state of mind, and the conclusions which inexorably follow from its predominance, that we are attempting to get at through our present survey. These conclusions may perhaps be briefly forecast here, in order that the reader who is for any reason indisposed to entertain them may take warning of them at this point, and close the book.
The unquestioning, determined, even truculent maintenance of the attitude which Professor Ortega y Gasset so admirably describes, is obviously the life and strength of the State; and obviously too, it is now so inveterate and so widespread - one may freely call it universal - that no direct effort could overcome its inveteracy or modify it, and least of all hope to enlighten it.
This attitude can only be sapped and mined by uncountable generations of experience, in a course marked by recurrent calamity of a most appalling character. When once the predominance of this attitude in any given civilization has become inveterate, as so plainly it has become in the civilization of America, all that can be done is to leave it to work its own way out to its appointed end. The philosophic historian may content himself with pointing out and clearly elucidating its consequences, as Professor Ortega y Gasset has done, aware that after this there is no more that one can do.
“The result of this tendency,” he says, “will be fatal. Spontaneous social action will be broken up over and over again by State intervention; no new seed will be able to fructify. Society will have to live for the State, man for the governmental machine. And as after all it is only a machine, whose existence and maintenance depend on the vital supports around it, the State, after sucking out the very marrow of society, will be left bloodless, a skeleton, dead with that rusty death of machinery, more gruesome than the death of a living organism. Such was the lamentable fate of ancient civilization.”
CHAPTER 5
Our Enemy, The State
by Albert J. Nock - 1935
long winded perhaps...but accurate.
Rush spared us for a reason. He likes us. I listened to AJ one afternoon on a long drive. That was enough.
I choose Rush, and sanity.
I’m licensed to diagnose (in Texas). Kristen is just alert & has a different sense of humor.
thanks for posting
i need a good dose of Ron every now and then
i like about 90% of what he says...
his commitment to non-intervention is wrong, IMHO. i think if he would just be more reasonable on his foreign policy i could vote for him all the way.
he has the role of government right (less is more)
he has personal freedom originating with individual liberty and idividual responsibility
he understands the power elite and their disenfranchisment from the people
he understands the consequences of fiat currency and bank directed financial governing
but he thinks (if i understand it correctly) that we can withdraw from the world and not suffer consequences....he sees that our engagement has consequences, sometimes bad ones, but discounts any possibility that disengagement could be worse.
its his fatal flaw. with that, i cannot trust him with government no matter how much i agree on the other issues.
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