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A Stability Police Force for the United States: RAND CORP CALLS FOR NATIONAL POLICE FORCE???
RAND COPORATION ^ | 2009 | By: Terrence K. Kelly, Seth G. Jones, James E. Barnett, Keith Crane, Robert C. Davis, Carl Jensen

Posted on 01/12/2010 6:29:19 AM PST by RaceBannon

I know someone who purchased this from RAND.

By page 19 this report goes from discussing the need for a Special Police Force overseas to supplement interventions, to suddenly needing a force that can circumvent Posse Comitatus.

Posse Comitatus exists for a reason and any attempt to circumvent it, not matter how nicely packaged, is a step on the way to "Special" police becoming "Secret" police.

They call it :A STABILITY POLICE FORCE: This study asks several questions. First, is a Stability Police Force (SPF) necessary? An SPF is a high-end police force that engages in a range of tasks such as crowd and riot control, special weapons and tactics (SWAT), and investigations of organized criminal groups. In its ability to operate in stability operations, it is similar to such European forces as the Italian Carabinieri and French Gendarmerie. Its focus on highend tasks makes it fundamentally different from UN or other civilian police, who deal with more routine law and order functions. It is also different from most military forces, which are generally not trained and experienced to conduct policing tasks in a civilian environment. Second, if an SPF is necessary, what should it look like? This includes considering such issues as: its objectives, tasks, and size; its speed of deployment; its institutional capabilities; where it should be headquartered in the U.S. government and how it should be staffed (standing force, reserve force, and hybrid force); and its cost.


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To: Vince Ferrer; RaceBannon
The "elites" need to understand that this isn't going to help them. We are a nation of 300 million.

Ever heard of "smallpox"? Think 300 million can just live off the land? They'll just burn it.

This has all been done before in the Boer War. What they need is a way to supply their police. For that, think "transportation corridors."

There is a counter strategy, given to Israel by you know Who.

81 posted on 01/12/2010 7:44:48 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Democrats were the Slave Party then; they are the Slave Party now.)
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To: melancholy

Here’s the text of an Email that I received just now. Sobering read!

1938 Austria —Land of “The Sound of Music” Story
Friends, I had the opportunity to hear Kitty Werthmann speak at the Eagle Forum national conference a couple of months back. She told a powerful story about what it was like growing up under Hitler.

America Truly is the Greatest Country in the World. Don’t Let Freedom Slip Away
By: Kitty Werthmann

What I am about to tell you is something you’ve probably never heard or will ever read in history books.

I believe that I am an eyewitness to history. I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. We elected him by a landslide - 98% of the vote. I’ve never read that in any American publications. Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force. In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed. We had 25% inflation and 25% bank loan interest rates. Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young people were going from house to house begging for food. Not that they didn’t want to work; there simply weren’t any jobs. My mother was a Christian woman and believed in helping people in need. Every day we cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry people - about 30 daily.

The Communist Party and the National Socialist Party were fighting each other. Blocks and blocks of cities like Vienna , Linz , and Graz were destroyed. The people became desperate and petitioned the government to let them decide what kind of government they wanted. We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany , where Hitler had been in power since 1933. We had been told that they didn’t have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living. Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group — Jewish or otherwise. We were led to believe that everyone was happy. We wanted the same way of life in Austria . We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back. Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany and have Hitler for our ruler. We were overjoyed, and for three days we danced in the streets and had candlelight parades. The new government opened up big field kitchens and everyone was fed.

After the election, German officials were appointed, and like a miracle, we suddenly had law and order. Three or four weeks later, everyone was employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was created through the Public Work Service.

Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home. An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn’t support his family. Many women in the teaching profession were elated that they could retain the jobs they previously had been required to give up for marriage.

Hitler Targets Education - Eliminates Religious Instruction for Children:

Our education was nationalized. I attended a very good public school. The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitler’s picture hanging next to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told the class we wouldn’t pray or have religion anymore. Instead, we sang “Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles,” and had physical education.

Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance. Parents were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum. They were told that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail. The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination. The rest of the day we had sports. As time went along, we loved it. Oh, we had so much fun and got our sports equipment free. We would go home and gleefully tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.

My mother was very unhappy. When the next term started, she took me out of public school and put me in a convent. I told her she couldn’t do that and she told me that someday when I grew up, I would be grateful. There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun - no sports, and no political indoctrination. I hated it at first but felt I could tolerate it. Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home. I would go back to my old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing. Their loose lifestyle was very alarming to me. They lived without religion. By that time unwed mothers were glorified for having a baby for Hitler. It seemed strange to me that our society changed so suddenly. As time went along, I realized what a great deed my mother did so that I wasn’t exposed to that kind of humanistic philosophy.

Equal Rights Hits Home:

In 1939, the war started and a food bank was established. All food was rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps. At the same time, a full-employment law was passed which meant if you didn’t work, you didn’t get a ration card, and if you didn’t have a card, you starved to death. Women who stayed home to raise their families didn’t have any marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for men.

Soon after this, the draft was implemented. It was compulsory for young people, male and female, to give one year to the labor corps. During the day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they returned to their barracks for military training just like the boys. They were trained to be anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the signal corps. After the labor corps, they were not discharged but were used in the front lines. When I go back to Austria to visit my family and friends, most of these women are emotional cripples because they just were not equipped to handle the horrors of combat. Three months before I turned 18, I was severely injured in an air raid attack. I nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared having to go into the labor corps and into military service.

Hitler Restructured the Family Through Daycare:

When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers. You could take your children ages 4 weeks to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, 7 days a week, under the total care of the government.. The state raised a whole generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.

Health Care and Small Business Suffer Under Government Controls:

Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American doctors trained at the University of Vienna . After Hitler, health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full. If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.

As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80% of our income. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families. All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.
We had another agency designed to monitor business. My brother-in-law owned a restaurant that had square tables. Government officials told him he had to replace them with round tables because people might bump themselves on the corners. Then they said he had to have additional bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack bar. He couldn’t meet all the demands. Soon, he went out of business. If the government owned the large businesses and not many small ones existed, it could be in control.
We had consumer protection. We were told how to shop and what to buy. Free enterprise was essentially abolished. We had a planning agency specially designed for farmers. The agents would go to the farms, count the live-stock, then tell the farmers what to produce, and how to produce it.

“Mercy Killing” Redefined:

In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps . The villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which, in the winter, were closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated. So people intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded. When I arrived, I was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all useful and did good manual work. I knew one, named Vincent, very well. He was a janitor of the school. One day I looked out the window and saw Vincent and others getting into a van. I asked my superior where they were going. She said to an institution where the State Health Department would teach them a trade, and to read and write. The families were required to sign papers with a little clause that they could not visit for 6 months. They were told visits would interfere with the program and might cause homesickness.

As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died a natural, merciful death. The villagers were not fooled. We suspected what was happening. Those people left in excellent physical health and all died within 6 months. We called this euthanasia.

The Final Steps - Gun Laws:
Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns.. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms.. Not long after-wards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.

No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.

Totalitarianism didn’t come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria . Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.

After World War II, Russian troops occupied Austria . Women were raped, preteen to elderly. The press never wrote about this either. When the Soviets left in 1955, they took everything that they could, dismantling whole factories in the process. They sawed down whole orchards of fruit, and what they couldn’t destroy, they burned. We called it The Burned Earth. Most of the population barricaded themselves in their houses. Women hid in their cellars for 6 weeks as the troops mobilized. Those who couldn’t, paid the price. There is a monument in Vienna today, dedicated to those women who were massacred by the Russians. This is an eye witness account.

“It’s true..those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty came to a country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity. America Truly is the Greatest Country in the World.

Don’t Let Freedom Slip Away
“After America , There is No Place to Go”

Any of this sound familiar to you? Does any of this sound like what Obama and his thug Administration, Pelosi, Reid and the US Congress have in their plans?


82 posted on 01/12/2010 7:45:00 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: DBrow

Don’t worry soon everyone will spend 2 years of National Service, as serfs to the fedgov. They own us after all.


83 posted on 01/12/2010 7:45:17 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
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To: RaceBannon
"Special Police Force"

Just a "politically correct" way for the Chief Executive to avoid declaring Martial Law in the event of an unforeseen catastrophe.

A bad idea of monumental proportions.

We already have FEMA.

I notice that the Table of Contents makes no mention of the constitutional implications, or the risks associated with creating an entity with such a large mandate. J. Edgar Hoover comes to mind.

RAND is sloppy if they let this kind of junk leak out the door.
84 posted on 01/12/2010 7:50:38 AM PST by indthkr
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To: RaceBannon

Great - that means another run on 30 round mags.............


85 posted on 01/12/2010 7:51:14 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: RaceBannon

86 posted on 01/12/2010 7:52:14 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Al Gore was more concerned with the evil influence of heavy metal than that of radical Imam.)
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To: ZULU
My guess is there are enough local police, state police, county police, and veterans out there to overthrow any government which tried to implement this.

They can try, but never in history were Communists kicked out by local entities only. This is why the "need" for protection and capability to crackdown on the locals. IOW, the SPF.

Communists never give an inch without being brutally forced to flee.

87 posted on 01/12/2010 7:52:42 AM PST by melancholy (Stop USA change, destroy the 0b0z0ne layer!)
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To: Little Ray

Use your imagination. Ya think they’ll just stand there waiting to be mowed down? or go home and take on a new tactic per their own terms?


88 posted on 01/12/2010 7:53:59 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Virtue is to be apologized for. Depravity commands respect. - Galt)
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To: Jack Black

Many of us are not eligible to join Oathkeepers, which is for active and retired military and police.

It's a good suggestion for those who are, but probably ignores 2/3 of the people on Free Republic and 7/8 of the total citizenry.


Mornin' Sir,

ALL non-LEO and non-military citizens are eligible to join as Citizen Associate members. I am such a member and we have a great local group led by an LEO from a neighboring community. In fact, we had a meeting last night. I can tell you that the LEO and Military folks in our group appreciate the citizen members and we are included in all functions, communications, and planning.

Here's the FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions

Q. I am a Citizen, can I still join?

A. Yes. Although the Oath Keepers organization is geared towards active duty, retired, and veterans of the military, law enforcement, and firefighters; we still welcome those concerned Citizens as Citizen Associate Members. We encourage all who have not yet taken an Oath to do so at one of our Oath Ceremonies that take place all over the country.


I urge you to join both National Oath Keepers and your State Oath Keeper Group, and then recruit as many members as possible. Most sate groups are still in the early stages of forming. Oath Keepers was established at Lexington Green, MA on April 19, 2009.

Please pass this information on. Time grows short. Keep your powder dry.


”Oath

Oath Keepers


Click here to join your State Group

89 posted on 01/12/2010 7:54:26 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Chickensoup

What, you’re just going to sit there when denied adequate food/heat/shelter? and you’re not prepared to provide it yourself for at least a few months already?


90 posted on 01/12/2010 7:56:39 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Virtue is to be apologized for. Depravity commands respect. - Galt)
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To: RaceBannon

Rand Corp has been calling for this since LBJ was in office. Don’t count on this having weight with the voters.

We all know every Governor, Sheriff, and Mayor is going to willingly give up their control to the Chicago Mob in D.C. I am sure that the citizens are going to want to give up their control over local law enforcement as well and place it in the hands of people like Obama, Reid, Pelosi and Bloomberg.

The intent of the Constitution was to keep the Federal Government, small, limited in power and inefficient. Unfortunately, inefficient is the only part that seems to work well.


91 posted on 01/12/2010 7:57:09 AM PST by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: RaceBannon

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2234466/posts?page=1

National Service Act


92 posted on 01/12/2010 7:57:41 AM PST by DBrow
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To: PatriotGirl827

bookmark for later read


93 posted on 01/12/2010 7:57:56 AM PST by PatriotGirl827 (Pray for the United States of America!)
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To: ZULU

Problem is, if they try this then at that point they’re already organized ... those who object won’t be.


94 posted on 01/12/2010 7:58:22 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Virtue is to be apologized for. Depravity commands respect. - Galt)
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To: ExTexasRedhead; LucyT; bgill; Whenifhow; malkee; STE=Q; rocco55; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; ...

Ping...............

Check out some relevant history in #82

Thanks, ExTexasReadhead.


95 posted on 01/12/2010 7:58:36 AM PST by melancholy (Stop USA change, destroy the 0b0z0ne layer!)
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To: MrB
Actually anything sporting one of these will be in deep pain territory:


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

96 posted on 01/12/2010 8:00:31 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Little Ray
What are rioters going to do when they’re confronted by tanks, IFVs, and and helicopter gunships manned by folks perfectly willing to kill them?

60,000 armed Federal agents.

Possibly 1,000,000 combined military and Obama security forces under control of Sauron.

200,000,000 armed Americans.

The math is left as an exercise to the reader.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

97 posted on 01/12/2010 8:00:53 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: ctdonath2

What, you’re just going to sit there when denied adequate food/heat/shelter? and you’re not prepared to provide it yourself for at least a few months already?

I am prepared but not for the years of civil war, favoritism and evil that can befall nations. The hallmark of these leftist b*****dss is that they cut people out and isolate groups. I dont think that we really are prepared for that.


98 posted on 01/12/2010 8:00:57 AM PST by Chickensoup (We have the government we deserve. Is our government our traitor?)
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To: Little Ray
What are rioters going to do when they’re confronted by tanks, IFVs, and and helicopter gunships manned by folks perfectly willing to kill them?

60,000 armed Federal agents.

Possibly 1,000,000 combined military and Obama security forces under control of Sauron.

200,000,000 armed Americans.

The math is left as an exercise to the reader.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

99 posted on 01/12/2010 8:01:40 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: indthkr

It says they would be “Shaping the environment before a conflict” (among other things)

That means rounding up the leaders of the opposition BEFORE the fighting breaks out. This is to help make sure that the opposition is as disorganized and leaderless as possible. It might also mean shutting down radio, phone and internet access to the area.

Of course the government would be the one instigating such a conflict in this case, blaming it on the radical right


100 posted on 01/12/2010 8:03:10 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
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