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The truth about Massachusetts health care reform (The Romneybots are coming out)
Politico ^ | March 18, 2010 | Tim Murphy

Posted on 03/18/2010 9:02:56 AM PDT by C19fan

The Massachusetts health care reform law has become an unfortunate victim of politics.

Democrats in Washington say that their unpopular takeover of the nation’s health care sector – with its higher taxes, cuts to seniors on Medicare and price controls — is somehow modeled on the Massachusetts law. On the other end of the political spectrum, conservatives implausibly claim it is “bankrupting” the state.

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Author: Tim Murphy was Secretary of Health and Human Services for Massachusetts under former Governor Mitt Romney. More than 430,000 additional people now enjoy the security of health insurance, approximately half without any government assistance.

I read almost the same exact sentence from another Romneybot on NRO Corner. Obvously, Willard was hitting the fax machines this week

Each of these maladies can be cured, if state officials recognize the limitations of top-down government solutions

Talking point 2: Blame Duval for the current metldown in Mass. This is like Lenin apologists claiming Lenin was not responsible for Stalin's butchery. Lenin set up the framework that allowed Stalin to do his work. Romney set up the framework and gave the government the power to implement top-down solutions.

1 posted on 03/18/2010 9:02:56 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Works as well as TENNCARE.

Check it out.


2 posted on 03/18/2010 9:05:40 AM PDT by Carley (Are you better off now than one year ago? HELL NO!!!!!)
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To: C19fan

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2472913/posts

The result is all the problems familiar to patients in socialized systems — longer wait times, fewer doctors, overstretched emergency rooms — with the uniquely American wrinkle of dramatically increased costs. Mass. residents now pay 27 percent more than the U.S. average.

If costs are the issue, it isn’t very difficult: As has been noted here many times, third-party transactions are always more expensive, whether the third party is an insurer or the government. Most people in the waiting room don’t care whether the procedure costs $200 or $20,000: Their only concern is whether the third party will grant access to it. If you mandate universal third-partyism, your costs by definition will increase. As a businessman, Mitt should have known that. So it reflects poorly on his judgment.

And it’s worse than that, because, of those citizens forced by Mitt to acquire insurance, nearly 70 percent are getting it all but totally subsidized by Massachusetts taxpayers. That’s a good example of another general principle — that, even if you accept his characterization of the plan, wonkish non-partisan technocratic reforms will invariably be turned leftward by the statist bureaucracy.


3 posted on 03/18/2010 9:07:42 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Carley

Three areas of concern are: “overreaching social planning by the Commonwealth Health Insurance Connector Authority (the “exchange”); double-digit increases in health insurance costs for many employers and individuals, and too much taxpayer money still underwriting free care.”

ANYONE who does not think those problems will be even bigger under ObamaCare has been taking too many hots from Barry’s hopium hookah


4 posted on 03/18/2010 9:08:40 AM PDT by milwguy
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To: C19fan

“Mass. residents now pay 27 percent more than the U.S. average.”

Change you can believe in................


5 posted on 03/18/2010 9:09:09 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: C19fan

Where is RINO Romney
as the Dems push through ObamaCARE?

Answer: The RINO coward is hiding, sending out his saboteurs
against Gov. Palin and all conservative GOP stars again,
selling his ghostwritten book, helping Obama by having Murphy push RomneyCARE
and by attacking the “tea party”.
6 posted on 03/18/2010 9:12:01 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Carley

Which means it doesn’t work.


7 posted on 03/18/2010 9:12:05 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: C19fan
“As an experiment, however, the Massachusetts law has revealed certain weaknesses in the plan. Three areas of concern are: overreaching social planning by the Commonwealth Health Insurance Connector Authority (the “exchange”); double-digit increases in health insurance costs for many employers and individuals, and too much taxpayer money still underwriting free care.”

Or, to put it much more honestly:”it is “bankrupting” the state.”
Which is the very fact that he starts out decrying as “implausible”.
Liberals, no matter how painfully obvious the evidence of their programs failure, always double down on stupid.

“Yes, it's not working, but only because we didn't go far enough.”

8 posted on 03/18/2010 9:14:33 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 393)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger
Romney and Murphy should be ashamed of themselves.

“Cahill bashes (MA) state -- and national -- health care reform law
State Treasurer Timothy P. Cahill, an independent candidate for governor, today offered
a wide-ranging and scathing criticism of the state’s universal health care law, saying it is
bankrupting Massachusetts and will do the same nationally, if a similar plan is passed in
Congress.
"If President Obama and the Democrats repeat the mistake of the health insurance reform
here in Massachusetts on a national level, they will threaten to wipe out the American
economy within four years,” Cahill said in a press conference in his office.
Echoing criticism leveled by Congressional Republicans in recent weeks, Cahill said, “It
is time for the president, the Democratic leadership, to go back to the drawing board and
come up with a new plan that does not threaten to bankrupt this country.”


“In his defense, Romney admitted to Fox that about half of the real costs of “extending
coverage to the uninsured” (aka forcing young, healthy people to buy expensive
insurance they don’t need) is covered by federal tax dollars. In other words, as expensive
as it is, without federal subsidies it would cost even more.
So when there’s a federal Obamacare plan, who do we taxpayers turn to for our
subsidies? China? The United Nations? Mr. Spock and the United Federation of Planets?”



“Mr. Romney's subsidized coverage is meanwhile doing what entitlements do: crowding
out private insurers, compounding the cost explosion, walking the state toward rationing.
So long as the former governor clings to these central points of his health plan, he's on
the wrong side of free-market policy and public opinion.

This isn't going away for Mr. Romney either, which is why he'd do better by writing off
his own plan as a mistake that Democrats have made worse, and replacing it with a
proposal that deregulates and reforms the private market to lower insurance costs
(thereby achieving greater coverage).”


From CATO (the whole article is worthwhile): “Before RomneyCare was enacted, estimates of the number of uninsured in
Massachusetts ranged from 372,000 to 618,000. Under the new program, about 219,000
previously uninsured residents have signed up for insurance. Of these, 133,000 are
receiving subsidized coverage, proving once again that people are all too happy to accept
something “for free,” and let others pay the bill. That is in addition to 56,000 people who
have been signed up for Medicaid. The bigger the subsidy, the faster people are signing
up. Of the 133,000 people who have signed up for insurance since the plan was
implemented, slightly more than half have received totally free coverage.


“Health Care Speechwriter for Edwards, Obama & Clinton Now Without Health Insurance”
I'm a critic because what Washington is talking about doing
has made health insurance unaffordable in Massachusetts.



“Small businesses bridle at health insurance hikes (Romneycare strangles Mass. businesses)
some really bad news from Blue Cross-Blue Shield: His company’s health insurance rates are going up 47 percent in January.”


“ Rationing medicine has already begun
… government-
run health care has introduced rationing and waiting lists and cost the lives of the people under its provisions.”


“DEATH PANELS OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN MASSACHUSETTS”


“President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar defended the
possibility of removing organs from terminally ill patients without their permission.”


“You can’t reap these savings without limiting patients’ choices in some way," said Paul Levy, CEO of Beth Israel Deaconess.”


“State plan may place limits on patients’ hospital options( Mass. RomneyCare )”


"Romney Visits Nebraska, Talks Health Care [where he defends Romneycare] “


"Paying the Health Tax in Massachusetts [Romneycare]
Massachusetts requires every resident to have health insurance, and this
year, without informing us directly, the state had changed the rules in a way that made
our bare-bones policy no longer acceptable. Unless we ponied up for a pricier policy we
neither need nor want—or enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance plan—we
would have to pay $1,000 each year to the state.
How did we become outlaws? “


"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
It was only a matter of time.
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006."


A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]
"Initiated on Mr. Romney’s gubernatorial watch in 2006, this “experiment” has fallen on hard times, and predictably so. “


Health care in Massachusetts: a warning for America [Romney brings Mass. to its knees]
The Bay State's mandatory insurance law is raising costs, limiting access, and lowering care.

Three years ago, Massachusetts adopted a plan requiring all residents to purchase health
insurance, with state subsidies for lower-income residents. But rather than creating a
utopia of high-quality affordable healthcare, the result has been the exact opposite –
skyrocketing costs, worsened access, and lower quality care."


"‘Severe’ doc shortage seen hiking wait time
“The shortage is getting more severe”"


“Health costs to rise again.( RomneyCare )
The state’s major health insurers plan to raise premiums by about 10 percent next year,
prompting many employers to reduce benefits and shift additional costs to workers.”


“Nation’s ill-advised to follow Mass. plan [Health plan a failure]
September 17, 2009 The canary is dead.
Massachusetts, the model for the ObamaCare universal insurance plan, is the canary in
the health care coal mine. Yesterday, its obit appeared on the front page of both The Wall
Street Journal and The Boston Globe-Democrat “


"Bay State Insurance Premiums Highest in Country - Boston Globe August 22, 2009
Massachusetts has the most expensive family health insurance premiums in the country,
according to a new analysis that highlights the state’s challenge in trying to rein in medical costs
40 percent higher than in 2003. Over the same period, premiums nationwide rose an average of 33 percent..."


"Massachusetts: the laboratory for ObamaCare“


"Massachusetts' Obama-like reforms increase health costs, wait times [RomneyCare]
Premiums are growing 21 to 46 percent faster than the national average"


"Mass. Pushes Rationing to Control Universal Healthcare Costs (RomneyCare)
A 10-member Massachusetts state healthcare advisory board unanimously recommended
that the state begin rationing healthcare to keep the state’s marquee universal health care program afloat financially.


"1,000 cancer patients 'refused treatment'"


"Massachusetts Universal Healthcare System Breaking Down Already
ERs in Massachusetts have not seen a downturn in visits. On the contrary, it seems that ER visits are actually on the upswing in the Bay State. In fact, in 2007 they were higher than the national average by 20 percent...”


"Hospital patients 'left in agony'"


"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood.
In Massachusetts's latest crisis,
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006
Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."


A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]
… fiscal troubles aplenty within Repubican Mitt Romney’s brainchild, Massachusetts’ “grand experiment” in “universal” health care."
"Initiated on Mr. Romney’s gubernatorial watch in 2006, this “experiment” has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
“RomneyCare” is threatening to bankrupt the state.“


"Dem Congresswoman Admits Obama Health Care Plan Will Destroy Private Health Insurance Industry"


"Romney’s mistreatments a sick man, as Gov. Mitt Romney meets a medical marijuana patient"

9 posted on 03/18/2010 9:16:52 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: C19fan

The Massachusetts Treasurer was on Fox this morning and he said Romneycare was bankrupting the state.


10 posted on 03/18/2010 9:20:46 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ( I Will Not Comply! - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: C19fan
Mittcare is for Rombutts Rombots. Don't trash the rest of us with a bad idea.
11 posted on 03/18/2010 9:23:06 AM PDT by pallis
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To: C19fan
All I know about RomneyCare is that if I go to e-healthinsurance.com and punch in my Texas zip code and my birth date (I'm 46), I get offered over 100 plans ranging in price from $67 to $580 per month.

If I punch in a Massachusetts Zip (02120) and my birth date, I get offered 6 plans raging from $412 to $558 per month.

Fewer choices. Higher prices. Need I say more?

12 posted on 03/18/2010 9:28:26 AM PDT by Stegall Tx (Joining the Obama economy on 19 March, 2010.)
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To: Stegall Tx

I am sure in Mass, fertility treatments for homos are covered.


13 posted on 03/18/2010 9:31:05 AM PDT by C19fan
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