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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

10 AM Rules Committee meeting (C-span2 LIVE all day)

11 AM Stupak press conference

12 PM Demonstration at the Capitol

3 PM Obama meets with the Democratic caucus

Sunday
2 p.m.: The House will debate for one hour the rules of debate for the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill.

3 p.m.: The House will vote to end debate and vote on the rules of the debate.

3:15 p.m.: The House will debate the reconciliation package for two hours.

5:15 p.m.: The House will vote on the reconciliation package.

5:30 p.m.: The House will debate for 15 minutes on a Republican substitute and then vote on the substitute.

6 p.m.: The House will vote on the final reconciliation package.

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately vote on the Senate bill, without debate.


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To: Brad's Gramma
Thank you for the link !! FNC just replayed it. Not sure that it was replayed in the entirety. Will save the link. It looked like a GREAT speach by someone who was pleading for his country.
7,441 posted on 03/21/2010 10:34:27 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

Have you voted there in the past on something else? Clear your browser cookies, close and reopen your browser and try again. (You’ll have to log back in to FR too.)


7,442 posted on 03/21/2010 10:35:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Canadian Outrage
I have seen it with my own eyes.

And THAT had to be probably THE hardest thing you've ever done. A totally helpless feeling........

7,443 posted on 03/21/2010 10:36:47 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Here's a thought!! Donate to the website you are on RIGHT NOW!!)
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To: All

Check Tweet via Mom.
Pg 253 Line 10-18: Govt sets the value of a doctor’s time, profession, judgment etc. Literally, the value of humans

Red State Dems that voted yes (Consider the source)

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/22/health-care-vitals-red-state-dems-who-voted-yes/?fbid=O9J3meZ_8nE

Monday, March 22, 2010

“Democrats for Life” Prove to Be a Disappointment — Again [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
From their website:

“Democrats for Life of America (DFLA) applauds the President Obama for his bold leadership in agreeing to an Executive Order that bans taxpayer funded abortions in the health care reform bill expected to pass the House this evening.”

“We are proud to support this historic healthcare legislation. President Obama’s Executive Order shows that when we work towards common ground in Washington we can do the people’s business and end the gridlock. By working with House Leaders and the White House, DFLA shows how the pro-life Democrats are a key and growing constituency.”

“Hubert H. Humphrey best stated it when he said, “ ... the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; and those who are in the shadows of life, the sick, the needy and the handicapped. “

The morning of the Corker-Ford election for Senate in 2006, DFL had a picture of Harold Ford Jr. on their website, as if he was an example of such a creature. He was not. And now they’ve been fooled again.

Well ... or they have made fools of those who bothered to take them seriously.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZThhZTdlOTZmODhhNTJmMjFjMTZiMTQzZDQ1MDhlZjU=


7,444 posted on 03/21/2010 10:36:47 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Speaking of Canada FOR NOW!! Don’t think it can’t happen to you especially now. CO


7,445 posted on 03/21/2010 10:37:01 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Thank you for the good wishes for my Mom.

Let me know how Palin's appearance went.

7,446 posted on 03/21/2010 10:37:14 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Canadian Outrage

Well of course. It’s just not a current US scene. There is something to lose here.


7,447 posted on 03/21/2010 10:38:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Arizona Carolyn

“I was given vicodin when I had carpal tunnel surgery, took one pill and that was it.. they made me feel worse than the pain from surgery.”

Sadly, in the future, those of us getting along in years will now ONLY have the option of the pain pills. I have a feeling they aren’t going to care whether or not the pills make us feel better or worse. It will be a pill or nothing, and the cheapest pain pill around, at that. Older Americans aren’t worth surgey, hasn’t 0bama pretty much said that very thing?


7,448 posted on 03/21/2010 10:38:31 PM PDT by jim35 (Tea Party former Republican)
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To: mylife

He’s just a forerunner laying the late term ground work.


7,449 posted on 03/21/2010 10:40:42 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: beagleone

Well I haven’t seen it quite that bad yet. That is terrible. I didn’t know Australia was in such terrible shape. Thanks for the info. CO


7,450 posted on 03/21/2010 10:40:42 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: AliVeritas

So superficial is the DFL. The exposure of Stupak shows it.


7,451 posted on 03/21/2010 10:40:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Many related trend lines

NECESSARILY

appear destined to peak well before then.


7,452 posted on 03/21/2010 10:41:27 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Canadian Outrage
Welcome to Obamacare.

The death toll from national health care goes on and on.

From Australian news outlet ABC: Notice how the government official never admits to what is going on.
Claim patients dying because of hospital wait times
Posted Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:14am AEST
Updated Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:02am AEST

Queensland Health Minister Stephen Robertson says he is not aware that any Queenslanders have died because of a shortage of public hospital beds.

The Queensland head of the Australasian College for Emergency Medicine, Dr Sylvia Andrew-Starkey, says emergency patients have died because of access problems.

"We have had a couple of deaths that I know of that are attributable to waiting time," she said.

Mr Robertson says he is shocked by the claim and he is not aware of any deaths.

7,453 posted on 03/21/2010 10:41:50 PM PDT by beagleone
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To: Tarkus2040

“Don’t forget the taxing of our 401Ks and IRAs!”

This whole thing is just sickening, I can’t believe this is happening to our country.


7,454 posted on 03/21/2010 10:42:02 PM PDT by jim35 (Tea Party former Republican)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Absolutely correct. I didn’t mean to imply that it would impact anyone’s salvation. The scriptures relating to prophecy however, are not for every Christian as not every Christian gets into that. We agree. Freeregards, CO


7,455 posted on 03/21/2010 10:43:37 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: beagleone

What in the world does this official DO? Play golf all day?


7,456 posted on 03/21/2010 10:43:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: onyx
Can’t even stand to a roll call vote.

Roll call votes are political show. I prefer the electronic voting, although I would not give them as long as they do. I might even require "synchronized" voting. Something like: "Input your vote and on my mark lock it in (turn keys)..."3,2,1 Mark" and require the keys be turned within very seconds. Why all the drama, it's not like they have think about it at that point.

The Nebraska Unicameral has used a similar system as long as I can remember (I'm 60 so that would go back to the early 60s, before then I wasn't much aware of the Leg was doing) At first the action merely lit up a light next to the Senator's name, yea or nay. It may have produced an overall total, but the clerk still had to record the votes manually. Now I'm pretty sure they record the votes automatically as well.

7,457 posted on 03/21/2010 10:44:46 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: DoughtyOne

imho.

He’s clearly been sold out to globalism for a very long time.

As the quotes attest . . . globalists are traitors to the max.

He just plays his assigned milder role well.

Below from:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81

1995 - July/August: In the CFR’s Foreign Affairs, prominent CFR member Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. exclaims: “We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money.”

1940

A book entitled, The New World Order by H.G. Wells, in which Wells claims:

“It is the system of nationalist individualism that has to go....We are living in the end of the sovereign states....In the great struggle to evoke a Westernized World Socialism, contemporary governments may vanish....Countless people...will hate the new world order....and will die protesting against it.”

1996 - October 23: On “The Charlie Rose Show” on the Public Broadcasting System, Mikhail Gorbachev states: “We are part of the Cosmos. Cosmos is my God. Nature is my God....The future society will be a totally new civilization which will synthesize the experience of Socialism and Capitalism....”

1919

A book entitled The New World Order by Samuel Zane Batten is published by the American Baptist Publication Society. In this book, Batten declares: “The old order passes from view, the new world rises upon our vision....We have vindicated the right of social control.....There must be developed a national spirit of service....Society must break the stranglehold of capitalism....The natural resources of the nation must be socialized....The state must socialize every group....Men must learn to have a world patriotism. World patriotism must be a faith....

1928

A book entitled The Open Conspiracy: Blue Prints for a World Revolution by socialist H. G. Wells is published.

He declares that “..The political world of the Open Conspiracy must weaken, efface, incorporate and supersede existing governments....The Open Conspiracy is the natural inheritor of socialist and communist enthusiasms, it may be in control of Moscow before it is in control of New York....”

1962 - March 10 State Department Study Memorandum No. 7, “A World Effectively Controlled by the United Nations, “ written by CFR member Lincoln Bloomfield, in which he states: “A world effectively controlled by the United Nations is one in which “world government” would come about through the establishment of supranational institutions, characterized by mandatory universal membership and some ability to employ physical force....(But) if the communist dynamic was greatly abated, the West might lose whatever incentive it has for world government” [EDITOR, I THINK] It looks as if now the “communist menace” has been replaced by the “terrorist menace”. And of course they can switch back to the communist menace or any other kind of menace whenever they want to.


7,458 posted on 03/21/2010 10:45:03 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Brad's Gramma

No I haven’t seen that because I don’t believe we have degenerated that far yet. CO


7,459 posted on 03/21/2010 10:45:53 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: Canadian Outrage

Well said.

Accurate, I’m sure.

Thanks tons.


7,460 posted on 03/21/2010 10:46:09 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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