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Prepare to lose metals, says UN group
Chemistry World ^ | 20 May 2010 | Andy Extance

Posted on 05/26/2010 12:48:24 AM PDT by neverdem

Supplies of speciality metals like lithium, neodymium and indium could become restricted unless recycling rates improve. That's the message from the first two of six reports prepared to assess metal supply sustainability for the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP). 

'Scientists should anticipate the possibility that they may not have the whole periodic table to work with in future,' says Thomas Graedel, who led the Global Metal Flows Working Group that compiled the studies.  

The report series won't deliver overall supply and demand projections until nearer to the 2012 Rio Earth Summit. Nevertheless Graedel, who is also director of Yale University's Center for Industrial Ecology in the US, thinks recycling will be pivotal if metal supplies are shown to be limited. 'Except for the major base metals and a couple of the most valuable metals, rates of recycling for almost all metals in the periodic table are low,' he notes. 'That means that they will be used one time and discarded, and that's a non-sustainable approach.'

Accurate estimates of metal extraction and use are lacking

One of the key obstacles to determining metal availability is that only around a third of metals have any estimates for quantities already extracted and in use. Of these, only five have been robustly quantified

© UNEP

Graedel recommends redesigning products as an interim option for tackling these challenges. Mobile phones and computers can use as many as forty elements in milligram to gram amounts, he explains. 'We use a lot of material in highly complex structures,' he says. 'We are making it difficult for recycling to deal with, and product designers and materials scientists are not giving this any thought as they roll their designs out.' 

The UNEP identifies indium as an example where demand is provisionally predicted to grow strongly, with the 1,200 tonnes needed in 2010 increasing to 2,600 tonnes by 2020. Used in producing light emitting diodes and transparent electrodes for flat screen displays, the UNEP says that under one per cent of indium demand is currently recycled. Claire Mikolajczak, director of metals and chemicals at materials supplier Indium Corporation, concedes that flat screens aren't being recycled, but argues that 65 per cent of indium supply currently comes from recycling 'spent' indium material used in manufacturing. 'This recycling ratio will stay constant or improve, so virgin production will need to be increased, but not by such high numbers,' she says. 

 

 

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: geology; indium; justsayno; lithium; metal; neodymium; science; un; unitednations

1 posted on 05/26/2010 12:48:25 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
The United States is broke; we have no money to spare.

Sorry you UN bunch of socialist dictators we are going to have to cut your allowance to 25 cents a week.

2 posted on 05/26/2010 1:10:13 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: neverdem

From the same gang which brought us “Global Warming”


3 posted on 05/26/2010 1:24:52 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: neverdem

They try really hard don’t they?


4 posted on 05/26/2010 1:30:14 AM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: neverdem

>> ‘Scientists should anticipate the possibility that they may not have the whole periodic table to work with in future,’ says Thomas Graedel

Is it just me, or does it sound like ol’ Thomas is making a threat?


5 posted on 05/26/2010 1:45:05 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Pontiac
Sorry you UN bunch of socialist dictators we are going to have to cut your allowance to 25 cents a week.

That's a raise in some of their home countrys.

6 posted on 05/26/2010 1:53:15 AM PDT by chemicalman (Obama, get a mop for this oil.)
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To: chemicalman
That's a raise in some of their home countrys.

True but it wouldn’t buy them a glass of water in New York

7 posted on 05/26/2010 1:58:44 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: neverdem
We may lose some elements, but we're always gaining others all the time these days. We're gaining on Governmentium and Pelosium. And new particles are being discovered as well, such as peons and morons.
8 posted on 05/26/2010 2:05:14 AM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the world safe for Marxism)
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To: neverdem

A replay of Julian Simon vs Paul Ehrlich...:
http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/index.php?news=44


9 posted on 05/26/2010 3:19:48 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: neverdem
Chemical producers brace for shortages as thousands of tonnes of raw material are stranded in port due to traces of GM crops

Must be Obama's faultTM, since he took over GM, right? /sarc>

...and you thought they just made cars!

Cheers!

10 posted on 05/26/2010 3:50:24 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: neverdem
Remind me to start producing and selling my new T-shirt / bumper sticker idea:

Nuke the UN

Cheers!

11 posted on 05/26/2010 3:51:55 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Let me know when I can order one. I’ll wear it on alternate days with my NRA shirt.


12 posted on 05/26/2010 5:25:45 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: neverdem
The United States retains the world's largest lode of rare earth minerals protected by Diane Feinstein's Desert Protection Act.

Of course, it wouldn't have anything to do with her husband's investments in Chinese rare earth mineral development.

13 posted on 05/26/2010 5:28:13 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: C210N

My favorite particle is the Par-Mesan.............


14 posted on 05/26/2010 5:29:42 AM PDT by Red Badger (When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you'll know that its desolation is NEAR. Luke 21)
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To: neverdem

Sounds like they’re expecting to ban mining operations just keep recycling what we’ve already got.


15 posted on 05/26/2010 5:29:59 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I kind of like “UNmake it”


16 posted on 05/26/2010 5:31:32 AM PDT by MortMan (I'm just an inkjet printer in a holographic world...)
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To: neverdem
The landfills of today are the gold mines of the future. Pity, in a way, that so much has been spent to 'reclaim' mines and bury tailings which might have been reprocessed for materials in the future.
17 posted on 05/26/2010 5:46:33 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: grey_whiskers

thousands of tonnes of raw material are stranded in port due to traces of GM crops


Choices choices. Starve or eat GM crops.


18 posted on 05/26/2010 5:50:58 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: neverdem

Now hold on people, this really is serious. Rare earth metals are called that for a reason: They are rare. Some of these metals come only from a handfull of mines. There are no other known sources in the entire world. Understand?

We are rapidly depleting the entire world’s supply of several of these metals. The next generation of integrated circuits is going to be based on a rare earth metal (forgot which one) that will run out in 5 years or less.

Poopooing recycling and the United Nations isn’t going to produce any more tantalum. We do need to recycle what we have. However, the problem is that such a tiny amount of these rare earth metals are used in an individual product like a cell phone that it isn’t profitable or even possible to recycle.

China’s industrial demands are sucking up the majority of the supply of rare earth metals. Their demand is sucking up the supply of metals in general. They have already bought most of the US’s steel production for the near future.

The inevitable complete depletion of some of the rare earth in the next 5 years will cause us to take a step backward in some technologies as we are forced to used less exotic materials.


19 posted on 05/26/2010 6:04:09 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: neverdem

Mine the landfills. Lots of good stuff in there.


20 posted on 05/26/2010 6:04:46 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: tacticalogic

This whole “sustainable development” movement is nothing but population control, in more than one meaning of the phrase. They want to reduce birth rates in order to make the population more controlABLE.

This is just another facet of that movement.

And, like you said, they will attempt to ban mining in order to restrict and control us more.


21 posted on 05/26/2010 6:07:54 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: neverdem

Lot’s of metal in UN buildings.


22 posted on 05/26/2010 8:14:22 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: neverdem

I’ve read extensive astrometric surveys that show that the moon is replete with Helium 3, but, alas, Bamster has decided that it’s not in our best interest to be in space anymore.

This is in response to the addendum of the article. Helium 3 is easily captured, stored, and returned to the Earth with the proper surveying and mining of the moon.

Why we’ve not returned since Apollo is beyond me!


23 posted on 05/26/2010 8:43:31 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Asteroids are chock full of Platinum, Palladium and other rare metals ore. Moon has lots of Titanium and Aluminum ore too.

I hear a distant moon called Pandora has a lot of Unobtainium too. ;)


24 posted on 05/26/2010 8:50:28 AM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: anymouse
The simple fact is that astrogeology is the only science that will provide us with materials for future human growth. They're called rare-Earth metals for a reason. Those rare-Earth metals might be found in abundance on the moon, Mars, asteroids, or any other terrestrial planet(oid) in our solar system and we should be working around the clock to get off this rock to look for more raw materials to continue our species!
25 posted on 05/26/2010 8:54:45 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: RadiationRomeo

Well... anything not recycled is being put in landfills, thereby collecting all these various elements in one place. Recycling is good, but figuring out how to recover materials from landfills would yield eventually near 100% recycling. It can’t be much harder than strip mining. :-)


26 posted on 05/26/2010 8:57:54 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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27 posted on 05/26/2010 10:15:38 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Ramius

mining rights to landfills?

this is becoming like the world of “Cherry 2000”


28 posted on 05/26/2010 10:18:17 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: C210N
...new particles are being discovered as well, such as peons and morons.

Who can forget November, 2008, when morons were finally quantified?

29 posted on 05/26/2010 10:47:01 AM PDT by kitchen (One battle rifle for each person, and a spare for each pair.)
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To: neverdem

Leave it to the “experts” at the UN to not have enough data to make an informed decision and still make a decision.

Amazing and that’s not even mentioning the history or natural resources - they never run out!


30 posted on 05/26/2010 11:03:52 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: neverdem

Anything that is ‘scarce’ begs ‘control’. Convenient. No solution unless they take it and divvy it up among ‘friends’.

The same ol’ template.


31 posted on 05/26/2010 11:31:16 AM PDT by dasboot (Down: up. Up: down.)
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To: dasboot

in the UN world the desert has a shortage of sand.


32 posted on 05/26/2010 12:06:43 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Aye, Cap’n.


33 posted on 05/26/2010 1:27:06 PM PDT by dasboot (Down: up. Up: down.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Thanks neverdem. Talk about the haves vs the have-nots -- and the haves are not us, not the US, and they won't be holding on to control of anything, period.
Supplies of speciality metals like lithium, neodymium and indium could become restricted unless recycling rates improve.

34 posted on 05/26/2010 7:01:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: neverdem

Fortunately, the U.S. has one of the world’s largest and richest Rare Earth deposits at Molycorp Minerals’ facility in Mountain Pass, California. At Mountain Pass we are producing certain Green Elements and plans are in place to bring the facility back into full production following an extensive modernization and expansion project. With appropriate federal assistance for research, development and capital costs, Molycorp Minerals is prepared to move forward to reestablish domestic manufacturing capacity on an expedited basis.

http://www.molycorp.com/


35 posted on 05/26/2010 11:05:48 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: neverdem
Oh yeah mr UN bureaucrat.
Well you'll have to pry my Ytterbium ('Yb',#70) from my cold, dead, hands!


36 posted on 05/27/2010 5:31:57 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: neverdem; All

Thanks for the ping/post; thread. UNaccountable bureaucrats scheming new BS to justify their existence. Eliminate all UNaccountable collectives.


37 posted on 05/27/2010 8:25:41 AM PDT by PGalt
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