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David Frum: A new look at a third party (RINOS ATTEMPTING TO THWART TEA PARTY) (BARF ALERT)
National Post ^ | 2010-10-19 | David Frum

Posted on 10/23/2010 1:57:32 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Republican political strategist Mark McKinnon – veteran of McCain and Bush presidential campaigns – acknowledged in an interview with David Frum that a third-party presidential effort for 2012 was not far off, and hinted at his involvement in one.

In the podcast interview, McKinnon, who was discussing his recent Daily Beast column “A Centrist Manifesto”, lamented that “there’s nobody that gets rewarded for bipartisan behavior, [and] in fact they get punished.” To that end, he said, “there is a very real possibility for a legitimate third party effort for 2012 … American voters are so hungry for more voice, and more choice.”

While reluctant to discuss the matter much further because announcements are forthcoming, McKinnon did let on that he was at least somewhat involved:

I’m reluctant to talk about [how a third party run would emerge] because I’m involved with some things that are happening that just haven’t been announced… it’s way more than gum-chewing. The appetite is there. Part of the problem is that there are some legal problems in the way. But there are some people working very hard to make sure that there won’t be those legal hurdles in the way… so that anyone who wants to run can run in 2012.

McKinnon suggested that an announcement related to such a third-party effort was on its way within the next few months, by “March at the latest.”

(snip)

McKinnon remained loyal to President Bush, saying that “I fully embrace and believe in the whole concept of compassionate conservatism, and I think we made great achievements in the area of AIDS funding and education reform.

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1 posted on 10/23/2010 1:57:38 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

David Frum, go away!


2 posted on 10/23/2010 2:00:09 PM PDT by A. Morgan
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To: EternalVigilance; DoughtyOne; AuntB; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; Frantzie; sickoflibs; ...

3 posted on 10/23/2010 2:00:52 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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I think we need a new "moderate" party.

It would draw from GOP RINOs and DemocRAT "centrists."

Should split the left-wing vote quite nicely.

4 posted on 10/23/2010 2:01:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Should split the left-wing vote quite nicely.

You mean like how Crist is derailing the Dems in Florida?

5 posted on 10/23/2010 2:01:58 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

LOL...

The very same folks who have working so hard to make the GOP into a “third” party...imagine that.


6 posted on 10/23/2010 2:01:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (There were fourteen victims at Fort Hood.)
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To: rabscuttle385

No Barf Alert necessary. The name David Frum is sufficient warning.


7 posted on 10/23/2010 2:02:44 PM PDT by Malesherbes (Sauve qui peut)
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To: rabscuttle385
I'm not seeking a third party. I want the Republican Party to straighten itself out so that it deserves my vote. I hope that a powerful Conservative wave in 2010 shows the GOP in which direction they must move.

However, if over the next two years, the Republican Party shows itself to be spineless and too willing to make common cause with the Leftists among the Democrats, then I will resign myself to being a Third Party man.

8 posted on 10/23/2010 2:03:16 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy
I want the Republican Party to straighten itself out so that it deserves my vote.

The problem is that the RINO establishment doesn't want anything to get straightened out.

They would rather you shut up, turn around, bend over, and keep taking it...and look like you're enjoying yourself!

9 posted on 10/23/2010 2:04:59 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385
Speaking of Crist, I've just returned from voting (for Rubio, of course) and poor Charlie is #9 on the ballot...good luck with that along with his many other problems.
10 posted on 10/23/2010 2:07:46 PM PDT by JPG (Sarah Palin says: "Buck-up or get out of the truck.")
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To: rabscuttle385

UH, NO, Davy.....go play somewhere else....we are smarter than you.


11 posted on 10/23/2010 2:07:58 PM PDT by goodnesswins (f you don't support Obama, and the deconstruction of America: YOU are a RACIST.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Should split the left-wing vote quite nicely.
It depends on how aware the average American remains. Obviously there has been a big awakening in the last couple of years... and I'm counting on the people staying awake, and not going back into a bipartisan self-hypnotic moronic zombie-like slumber.

If they stay awake, then yes, a "moderate" 3rd party will only attract demomorons and rinomorons and the rest of us (potentially 55% of the country) will remain united against both the dems and the "moderates".

12 posted on 10/23/2010 2:08:52 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: rabscuttle385

Frumtards from the Frum Forum keep showing up here to push homomarriage.
They keep getting slapped down.
So it comes as no surprise to me that Frum is sneering at the Tea Party.


13 posted on 10/23/2010 2:09:12 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
if over the next two years, the Republican Party shows itself to be spineless and too willing to make common cause with the Leftists among the Democrats, then I will resign myself to being a Third Party man.

Thats sweet, but the article you are commenting on is written by a guy who wants to start a more moderate third party.. But thanks for adding your two cents.

14 posted on 10/23/2010 2:10:00 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: rabscuttle385

So Frum is a bird-brained Falconer too?


15 posted on 10/23/2010 2:11:28 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Frumpy Old Party (FOP).


16 posted on 10/23/2010 2:13:52 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: ClearCase_guy

The GOP hasn’t been getting donations, they don’t like ‘We the People” having a voice, it kinda threw them. I had no doubt all along - newt, mitt, the huckster, rove and crew have been working behind the scenes - to maintain their boys club and keep their power.

It’s an ‘Anyone but Sarah’ endeavor. So we can expect someone to come on the scene with promises galore and many will be swept up in the deception. It worked for the ‘rats.


17 posted on 10/23/2010 2:14:43 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: A. Morgan

Reminds me of Dick Armey’s Faux Pau Tea Party Group.


18 posted on 10/23/2010 2:14:53 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: rabscuttle385
It seems there is an "October surprise"
every day from Romney and his Team against conservatives and Gov. Palin.

Fact: The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++4 to 10 pts. in some polls, days prior to the election.
So rather than helping the GOP, Romney and
TeamROMNEY decided …… to attack Gov. Palin to throw Election2008.

"Frum was indeed a critic of Palin, calling her nomination a "huge mistake" during an October 13 (2008, weeks before the election) Early Show appearance."


David Frum: "Two of our most plausible candidates for president in 2012 are leading Mormons: Mitt Romney and Utah governor Jon Huntsman."


David Frum: "I have a lot of regard for Mitt Romney as a man and politician… I will support him without qualm."


Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.


"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off ….hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



19 posted on 10/23/2010 2:15:35 PM PDT by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: A. Morgan
Last time we fell for the third-party scam the country ended up with BJClinton (William=Billy Jefferson Clinton) and the gays infiltrated the central part of the Republican party.

That resulted in the 2006 loss (as I recalled).

No, Frum and his little friends can go do whatever they want, but don't pretend they are Republicans or Conservatives.

20 posted on 10/23/2010 2:15:42 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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