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U.S. Democrat Sees Health Law Surviving Repeal Move (SENATE VOTE WITHIN HOURS?)
Fox Business ^ | 2/01/11

Posted on 02/01/2011 12:08:08 PM PST by Libloather

U.S. Democrat Sees Health Law Surviving Repeal Move
Published February 01, 2011
Reuters

WASHINGTON – A leading U.S. Senate Democrat said Tuesday that President Barack Obama's healthcare overhaul will likely survive an effort by Senate Republicans to repeal the year-old law.

Senator Charles Schumer told reporters that there is enough support in the Senate to keep the healthcare law intact. All 47 Senate Republicans have backed a bill to repeal the law. But that falls short of the 60 needed to overcome procedural hurdles in the 100-member Senate. Republicans may try to offer the repeal, which pass the House on Jan. 19, as an amendment to an unrelated airline safety bill as early this week.

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KEYWORDS: 112th; congress; democrats; healthcare; obamacare; repeal; senate; socialistdemocrats; socialisthealthcare; vote
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To: Mr. K
The Republicans should cancel the vote as NOT NECESSARY

On the contrary. Now is the time to push harder. Force the Democrats to support an unpopular measure that they will lose on no matter which way they vote.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

21 posted on 02/01/2011 12:24:17 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Libloather
The GOP should be in defund mode at this point. They have the cover they need to do this. There would be no justification for funding an unconstitutional law, and we can't afford it, anyway. A repeal vote would be redundant as the courts have already taken care of this.
22 posted on 02/01/2011 12:25:15 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (Democrat Motto - "A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can put its pants on.")
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To: SomeCallMeTim

I hope you are right!! This is getting so much more interesting!!!!


23 posted on 02/01/2011 12:25:51 PM PST by MissH
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To: Armedanddangerous

Well, Manchin did run as a conservative democrat, opposed to government excesses (of which Obamacare is the crown jewel.) I agree, though, that it is surprising when a rat, even a “conservative” rat, keeps a promise. It’s probably more a case of self-preservation than underlying integrity, but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, so far.


24 posted on 02/01/2011 12:26:11 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Obamacare: Not just dreck. Unconstitutional dreck.)
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To: Nervous Tick
Not moot, for two reasons.

Add a third one:

c) despite their supposedly non-political role, the Supreme Court generally shows great deference to the legislature whenever possible. A recorded legislative sentiment against the law would make it more likely for the Court to toss the whole thing, rather than attempt to just sever the individual mandate.

25 posted on 02/01/2011 12:27:16 PM PST by kevkrom (De-fund Obamacare in 2011, repeal in 2013!)
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To: Libloather

Anyone voting against repeal is voting for an unconstitutional law as ruled by the Judicial Branch.


26 posted on 02/01/2011 12:28:11 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: SomeCallMeTim
From what I thought I read elsewhere, this NOT a vote that needs 60 votes... Repeal is being presented as an amendment on another bill...so, it’s UP or DOWN... With 47 solid R votes... only a handful of Dem switches are needed.

I like it.

27 posted on 02/01/2011 12:29:13 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Blueflag
That may not be true, the judge ruled on an injunction brought to the court by 26 states. Not all of them.

It is already a law and cannot be declared void in total, based on severability. The judges ruling can also be overturned by the 11th Circuit or by SCOTUS.

This is the latest approach that the Democrats and the White House have declared they will take. In the mean time, they intend to ignore the decision. The States who filed the injunction will then have to file a “Contempt of court” claim.

And the way I understand it, this still only applies to the 26 States who filed the injunction.

It's rapidly becoming a first class truck load of worms.

28 posted on 02/01/2011 12:29:13 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: Libloather

That’s fine - the Socialists can officially go on record as supporting what has already been deemed unconstitutional TWICE, and is heading towards a much larger slap-down as it winds its way through the courts.


29 posted on 02/01/2011 12:29:17 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Libloather
So - they're voting on something that doesn't exist. Interesting

Even if only procedural, this marxist edict must be repudiated not only in the courts, but with our legislature as well.

The national 'take-over' of the health care system is a communist/marxist wet dream (sorry) and clear lines in the sand must be drawn; Judicially & Legislatively

30 posted on 02/01/2011 12:29:42 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: Libloather

With the Administration saying, “proceed at pace,” the Judiciary and the Executive are at odds. Is there a procedure for ‘contempt of Court’ for the Executive Branch?

If the Senate refuses to repeal, the Legislative is at odds with the Judiciary. Is there a procedure for ‘contempt of Court’ for the Legislative Branch? Does the Legislative Branch vote the Judiciary in contempt of Congress?

The stonewall tactics are being used for many major issues in this Administration. HC is one. Enforcement of border security another. Voting rights. And, of course, the BC—with accomplices up the yin yang.


31 posted on 02/01/2011 12:29:42 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Nervous Tick; Blueflag
Not moot, for two reasons.

a) The law could survive appeal

b) Congress repealing it would be a frontal slap (...)

Also, it is my understanding that there are automatic stays that kick in on a federal judge's ruling - 14 days or such.

No matter what, something additional is going to have to force Zero to stop implementing it at the executive level. Perhaps getting nailed by two branches of government will be enough.

(Probably not, but I can hope/pray. I suspect this will all go down in a very ugly way.)

32 posted on 02/01/2011 12:30:28 PM PST by Yossarian (Heartfelt thanks, Tea Party Patriots! Despite slander and muck, you pulled through!)
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To: Blueflag

I disagree. Maintain the offensive against Obama Care on ALL FRONTS.

No respite for the wicked charlatans.


33 posted on 02/01/2011 12:31:46 PM PST by MortMan (I am in no mood to be amused! (Ebenezer Scrooge))
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To: Libloather

Since this comes from Charles “I’m a Constitutional expert” Schumer, it must be true.


34 posted on 02/01/2011 12:32:36 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Major Matt Mason
A repeal vote would be redundant as the courts have already taken care of this.

I'm all for redundancy. Rule it unconstitutional, repeal it, defund it, whatever it takes. It's like killing a snake. Chop it up into a thousand pieces, fill it full of lead, burn it, and bury the ashes.

No amount of redundancy will satisfy me against the perfidy and chicanery of this government, one in which the Attorney General can free Black Panthers who intimidated White voters, with the only reason being that the Black Panthers are Black and the White voters are White.

35 posted on 02/01/2011 12:32:43 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Obamacare: Not just dreck. Unconstitutional dreck.)
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To: tobyhill

It was only ruled by a lower court. That hardly represents the entire Judiciary. It is now up the the SCOTUS.


36 posted on 02/01/2011 12:34:32 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: kevkrom

Supreme court “deference to legislators “ in their rulings should defer to More Congressional votes FOR REPEAL than Last years votes FOR PASSAGE........let the SCOTUS defer away....


37 posted on 02/01/2011 12:37:06 PM PST by 4Speed
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To: Blueflag
Doesn’t matter. Judge voided the current law.

Moot.

Moot...until the administration gains a stay of the judge's order -- which would allow them to continue implementing the law.

Moot...until the Appellate Court or, God help us, SCOTUS reverses the judge's decision.

Repeal the SOB. That will make the court's decisions moot...

38 posted on 02/01/2011 12:37:18 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: combat_boots
Is there a procedure for ‘contempt of Court’ for the Executive Branch? Is there a procedure for ‘contempt of Court’ for the Legislative Branch?

From what I gather, all of that has to go back through Judge Vinson's court.

Does the Legislative Branch vote the Judiciary in contempt of Congress?

Don't know. I try to listen to Flee Levin's radio show for answers like that.

39 posted on 02/01/2011 12:38:16 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Sybeck1
Warner

Exclude him from the "maybe" group. Mr. "Independent Voice" is independent only of his conscience. He votes how Harry Reid tells him.

40 posted on 02/01/2011 12:39:12 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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