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LI officer doomed by cry of 'gun'(NY)
nypost.com ^ | 15 March, 2011 | SELIM ALGAR and LEONARD GREENE

Posted on 03/16/2011 6:38:06 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: marktwain

More here. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42054944/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/


61 posted on 03/16/2011 8:10:35 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: OneWingedShark

That is strange. My case is one of this ex still looking for revenge for things which never even happened - almost 17 years after our divorce. There was a more recent occasion where I could not reach my daughter by phone and it was important enough to drive across town to check as to whether she was at a certain friend’s house. I got a call two days later from someone who’d been told that I “went looking for my daughter with a gun”. The ex tries to use the word “gun” to stir up any kind of trouble for me possible. It has never worked, but she’s too stupid to quit trying.


62 posted on 03/16/2011 8:19:19 AM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Seems to be the case:

"... Neighbors, including Theresa Kelly who called 911, said she remembers the man who shouted “he’s got a gun” when Breitkopf and other special operations officers arrived at the scene. Kelly said the man was “shouting things, running around, ordering people around.”

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/03/15/l-i-suspects-father-says-death-of-son-officer-breitkopf-was-preventable/

63 posted on 03/16/2011 8:39:38 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid

Thanks...


64 posted on 03/16/2011 8:44:25 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Sharia? No, thanks.)
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To: faucetman
Says knife guy lunged at cops.

Well of course he did. You all saw it, right? *wink-wink* *nudge-nudge* Say no more!

65 posted on 03/16/2011 8:58:34 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My dream thread: Mormon cop shoots Catholic Freeper's Pit Bull and takes his Macbook Pro.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

“I hope heads will roll on this colossal screw up. Disgraceful police work. I blame the management, the higher ups.”

Probably not, the investigating board will rule it a good shoot. Oh wait, the guy killed wasn’t just an average citizen but one of the privileged few, hmmm give them a two week paid suspension and move on with life.


66 posted on 03/16/2011 9:23:03 AM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: BykrBayb

The story makes it sound as though this all happened at a crime scene where deadly force was used on a suspect. If that’s the case I wouldn’t even think about carrying a rifle into the area.


67 posted on 03/16/2011 9:37:33 AM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: Flintlock
and lie through their teeth if necessary.

Bingo, I don't believe a word that a cop involved in a shooting says. This just proves they are blowing people away who are just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

68 posted on 03/16/2011 11:39:25 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Flintlock
and lie through their teeth if necessary.

Bingo, I don't believe a word that a cop involved in a shooting says. This just proves they are blowing people away who are just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

69 posted on 03/16/2011 11:39:48 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: marktwain

Eric Holder: These are my cops after I lowered the passing scores.


70 posted on 03/16/2011 11:43:37 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: momtothree

“Sounds like this guy is a bit “squirrely”.”

Some people just can’t let go. I know folks who will be carried out of their offices feet first.


71 posted on 03/16/2011 11:51:15 AM PDT by PLMerite (Thanks for fixing the clock.)
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To: Hacklehead

“The real take away from this is that the cops will INSTANTLY kill anyone with a gun UNLESS it is glaringly obvious that its a cop.”

That is sadly correct. The flip side is that, if push comes to shove, they stick out like sore thumbs.


72 posted on 03/16/2011 11:53:05 AM PDT by PLMerite (Thanks for fixing the clock.)
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To: PLMerite

Why do you think it retired in the first place? Maybe something like a disability or I wonder if the department may have made a recommendation? To me, a retired officer is a regular citizen. Do they have experience? Yes, but no longer arrest powers. IMHO


73 posted on 03/16/2011 11:54:04 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Route797
Homicide? Isn't that a little harsh?

He killed a man through negligence. Do you think some local DA would think you'd been punished enough? I'm totally sick of double standards for cops.

Try his ass for Manslaughter and toss him into prison for 5 or 10 years.

74 posted on 03/16/2011 11:55:45 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: momtothree

Well, the messed up part is that even though this LEO was retired, at least in NY and NJ, they still get to carry unrestricted, and are exempt from any NFA laws as long as their on this side of the earth. I often get into “discussions” with my family from LI about concealed carry. The concept is completely foreign to them, unless “you’re a cop, and if you aren’t, you have no business doing so.” They look all perplexed at me when I tell them that one’s occupation has no bearing on them being able to exercise theiry Second Amendment RIGHTS!


75 posted on 03/16/2011 12:13:48 PM PDT by Seamus Mc Gillicuddy (Say Nope To The Hope Dope in '12!!!!!)
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To: Seamus Mc Gillicuddy

Agreed! I have no problem with retired cops carrying since I know one who had a scare five years after his retirement. In another state as well. I think the phrase, “you never forget the officer that arrested you” comes to mind. That being said, citizens IMHO should carry as well. The more you read the crime reports, the more I feel this way. If the government (IMHO) do nothing or very little about illegals, drug cartels etc.. than every person has the right to defend themselves.


76 posted on 03/16/2011 12:30:28 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: marktwain
Cops shoots cop. Take one of the cops out of the scenario and think of two alternate versions of the story. Then, ask yourself how they would be handled:

1. The victim is a citizen walking toward the scene (with or without a weapon) and the cops shoots him.

2. The shooter is a citizen in his house and he shoots the approaching cop.

Yeah….it would be VERY different.

77 posted on 03/16/2011 2:46:28 PM PDT by TankerKC (I feel 271 degrees out of sync today, which isn't half bad.)
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