Posted on 06/28/2011 5:23:58 PM PDT by SJackson
As Wisconsin heads toward lifting a ban on carrying concealed weapons, researchers at the University of California-Davis have turned up some unsettling information about those who may take advantage of the law.
In a study using 15-year-old data -- the most recent available -- published online in the journal Injury Prevention, the UC Davis Violence Prevention Research Program says those who carried concealed weapons or who had confronted someone with a gun were twice as likely to be heavy drinkers than non-gun owners. Gun owners who drove with loaded weapons were four times more likely to hop behind the wheel after drinking "perhaps too much," and those who didn't travel with a gun were twice as likely to drink and drive.
The study, released last week, came up with these conclusions by analyzing telephone survey results from 15,000 people in eight states. It comes as Wisconsin heads toward adoption of its own concealed carry law, which will make it the 49th state to legalize carrying loaded, concealed firearms, much to the consternation of some local officials.
The Senate passed the controversial proposal last week, and the Assembly was slated to take it up today.
Gov. Scott Walker is expected to sign the bill.
Absolute bullshit.
Now, I carry all the time and happily engage in what I used to deem "risky behavior." The only one at risk is any miscreant who might happen to be so foolish as to try to rob or assault me.
What a load of total horse hockey. The University of CA at Davis is all you need to know. Read no further.
“Follow the money trail, who paid for the study?”
Could it possibly be.........SOROS???;)
“Gun owners who carry concealed weapons or have confronted another person with a gun are more than twice as likely to drink heavily as people who do not own guns
Odd bedmates dont you think: a category including CCW and drunks who confront others with a gun.
Its obvious that those whove confronted others with a gun are more likely to be heavy drinkers. Drunks do all kinds of stupid and dangerous things.
But why include CCW in that category? For one reason only: to tar their reputation with the statistical behavior of drunk gun-toters.
Theyve mixed a few apples with a bunch of eggs and then proved statistically how easily apples shatter when dropped.
I could do a study with nuns and male homosexuals in the same group and prove how nuns are much more likely to contract AIDS than the general population.
When in college, in a class on statistics, the professor was demonstrating the ease in which correlational statistics could be misused. The data used was on the amount of ice cream consumed in one city compared to the crime rate of that city. The data showed that as the amount of ice cream consumed increased, the amount of crime increased. The question was, is it the amount of ice cream consumed that causes the crime to increase? Of course not, but this shows how correlational studies should not be used to determine causation?
I love it!
I saw a study a couple of years ago that was probably based on the same data. The sample group that they used aren’t necessarily CCW permit holders, they’re anyone who carried a gun. At the time when the data was collected that group consisted mostly of criminals.
And let's not forget off-duty cops who liked to hang out in cop-bars, who were probably the main survey responders. If you were a thug or gang banger, would you even respond to some survey caller asking you about your (illegal) gun carrying?
That’s amazing! A nephew of mine does the same insane things! The son of a friend does too. It’s rampant out there.
Ditto.
Could it possibly be.........SOROS???;)
You very well could be correct. Soros donates to a goody number of foundations and groups friendly to his way of thinking.
The "news story" was posted on the web site of CBS SACRAMENTO.com (CBS13). An individual using the name Jeff gave a lengthy comment to the news story.
A snip of his comment is as follows:
"Not surprisingly, it was paid for by the anti-gun Joyce Foundation, which has given $26 million to anti-gun groups and causes between 2003 and the present, and the California Wellness Foundation."
More of Jeff's comment
"But for Garen Wintemute, the longtime gun control-advocacy junk researcher at the University of California at Davis, who promotes himself as one of the worlds foremost experts on gun-related violence, talking about alcohol and guns in the same breath is just another way to do what he most likes to doexpressing his feeling that guns and gun owners are inherently unsafeand getting paid for doing it.
His new study, published by Injury Prevention, pushes the idea that gun owners, particularly those who keep and carry firearms for protection, are more likely to drink heavily and often. Not surprisingly, it was paid for by the anti-gun Joyce Foundation, which has given $26 million to anti-gun groups and causes between 2003 and the present, and the California Wellness Foundation. And to make sure the money keeps coming in, Wintemute says new and more comprehensive [funded] research is needed, since legislation authorizing the public carrying of loaded and concealed firearms has become almost universal in the United States.
There arent too many jobs in which you can get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for doing not much more than punching the time clock and making sure the boss knows about it. But Wintemutes sugar daddies and mommas at the anti-gun foundations dont seem to care. Wintemute even admits the limitations of his latest diatribe."
To read Jeff's complete comment see :
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2011/06/15/uc-davis-study-gun-ownership-linked-to-heavy-drinking/
There is a journal named Injury Prevention it is published by The British Medical Association. A great sounding name to lend credence to a study, but a study done in the US???
When an "Expert" does a study.
Always follow the money trail!!!!!!
Their “survey” was likely taken mostly from police reports after a crime had been committed.
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