Posted on 07/24/2011 6:54:25 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
I just received an email from World Net Daily advertising some books. Not unusual, as I'm on their list, and they send ads all the time. What is strange though, is the fact that all the books in this ad are religious AND take the oddball "7th-day Sabbath" position--definitely a very minority position among conservative evangelicals, and Christians of all stripes.
The ad also hints at some dark conspiracy amidst conventional Christians, accusing us of not reading the bible carefully.
Some evangelical apologists too categorize Adventism (which started with those who firmly predicted Jesus to come again in the 1840s) itself is at least an eccentric sect, following Old Testament and extra-biblical regulations, if not a cult, not unlike many others that got founded about that time.
Is World Net Daily now officially Adventist?
Perhaps you would like to debate the issue and instead of hurl grade school insults at someone you clearly do not know the age of. I was a long time WND reader.
Its your rejection of Christ, not your readership, that is the problem. A solid first century Christian message always brings out the angst of his enemies.
I showed you where you’re wrong, and you respond with Bill Clinton logic. The Heavens and the Earth are still here, so in Christ’s words his law stands.
The Law was never anything but an accusation to sinful man, and it remains so. To his own, it is written in their hearts; to the rest it is a catalyst for rage.
The ones I know are elitist, liberal kooks.
The ones I know are elitist, liberal kooks.
I do not reject Christ, I embrace him. I embrace his original message, not the bastardized version hoisted upon us by the Roman Catholic cult.
Your preconceived notions are blinding you.
Simple process: He arose by early Sunday morning. Count backwards until one has three full days and three full nights.
No, I showed you where you’re wrong and you refuse to accept it.
The word used is sabbath and Jesus is the lord of the sabbath. The problem is you can not prove that Sunday replaces Saturday for the sabbath day using the Bible. The seventh day(Saturday)was sanctified before Moses or Abraham Genesis 2:3 that is before the Hebrews. Paul had Timothy circumcised Acts 16:3 not because the law of Moses but because of Genesis 17:10. As many times the Lord was accused of breaking the sabbath I would expect that had the Church adopted Sunday at an early date then it would have been mentioned as an issue in Acts or the epistles on account that Gentiles were a Minority and Jews would have argued about it.
“There just is no command in the Bible to observe Sunday as the Sabbath. “
Nor to observe it on Saturday.
Actually, they probably picked Sunday because the Jews had Saturday and the Christian church was a subset of Judaism for a while. They were still good Jews on Saturday and celebrated as Christians on Sunday. That’s why there was a debate about allowing Gentiles into the church.
By that time, the Law had been fulfilled. The church was teaching that dietary laws and circumcision rules were no longer required. Sunday was kept because they really didn’t see any Scriptural requirement for the actual physical day. It should just be the Seventh Day.
The SDA criticism of the Catholic Church is likely misplaced. The Eastern Orthodox Church is probably the real perpetrator.
***The problem is you can not prove that Sunday replaces Saturday for the sabbath day using the Bible. ***
You are again hung upon the day. The early Christians met on the day Christ told them to meet, PENTECOST. Pentecost always comes on a SUNDAY.
The Holy Spirit came down on them on the day of PENTECOST. They have met every seven days since then. They do not gather to honor SUNDAY. They gather to honor the LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Then why do you carp at WND?
They are the only news site on the web that stands for the First Century Christianity of the apostles.
>Well, a commandment is a commandment. God did not put any emphasis on any of them. To God all the commandments are the same.
True, but Christ Himself said that the Sabbath was made for man, not the other way around.
How could you claim otherwise? If he didn’t then who did?
Please translate. I don’t know Hebrew.
How could you claim otherwise? If he didn’t then who did?
Please translate. I don’t know Hebrew.
U-2012>Please provide the citation.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
How could you claim otherwise? If he didn't then who did?
Please translate. I don't know Hebrew.
I find no evidence in Holy Scripture that Yah'shua I do know that "Christianity" was created shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
May you know peace through the Holy NAME of Jesus the Messiah.
started a new religion or called it Christianity.
He came to bring salvation as He promised in the Tanach.
and promulgated as the Roman "church"
at the meeting at Nicea in 325 CE called
and run by Constantine the Pagan Pontiff.
Source: Codex Justinianus, lib. 3, tit. 12, 3; trans. in Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church, Vol. 3 (5th ed.; New York: Scribner, 1902), p. 380, note 1. First Sunday Law enacted by Emperor Constantine - March, 321 A.D.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
On the venerable Day of the Sun let the magistrates and people
Followers of Yah'shua always met on His commanded Sabbath.
residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country,
however, persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully
continue their pursuits; because it often happens that another day is
not so suitable for grain-sowing or for vine-planting; lest by neglecting
the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost.
(Given the 7th day of March, Crispus and Constantine being consuls each of them for the second time [A.D. 321].)
Yah'shua rebuked the Pharisees for their "man-made " Traditions about the Sabbath Did Yah'shua teach about the Sabbath ? Yes ! See Matthew 12, Matthew 24, Matthew 28, Did Yah'shua change the day of worship from Shabbat to Sunday ? NO ! Did the creator of the universe say: Did Yah'shua say: I've changed my mind; I now want you to worship on the Pagan day of the sun ? To whom does the New Covenant ( Jeremiah 31 ) refer and what does it detail ? Circumcision of the flesh clearly has been replaced with circumcision of the heart.
Yah'shua said : Did Yah'shua violate the Sabbath NO; He did not!
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
He violated the "man made Traditions" surrounding the Sabbath.
Mark 1, Mark 2, Mark 3, Mark 6, Mark 15, Mark 16,
Luke 4, Luke 6, Luke 13, Luke 14, Luke 23,
John 5, John 7, John 9, John 19, Acts 1
Stop worshipping me on the the day that I have commanded since Genesis ? NAsbU John 14:15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
Paul commanded the Colossians to ignore the Pagans and to observe the Holy Feasts of YHvH NAsbU Colossians 2:16
Therefore no one is to act as your judge
in regard to food or drink
or in respect to a festival
or a new moon or
a Sabbath day--
Not to mention that God says he is the same today, tomorrow, and yesterday.
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