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Polls: With Cain Gone, Romney Would DESTROY Perry
Ras; PPP | Dangus

Posted on 10/13/2011 9:02:34 AM PDT by dangus

Rasmussen tested various Republican primary match-ups in head-to-head contests. They found that Cain would edge Romney, 43-42, but Romney would clobber Perry, 54-30. Cain would clobber Perry, also, 54-29.
See Rasmussen's poll

Public Policy Polling found yesterday that, in a two-way matchup, Cain would do even better than Rasmussen predicts against Romney, beating him, 48-36. But Perry would lose badly, 48-38. With all candidates included, Cain beats Romney, 30-22, and was the most popular second-choice candidate. Perry finished 4th against the full field, in both Public Policy Polling and Rasmussen polls.
See questions 13-21 in PPP's poll

Romney tends to do best relative to Obama, but Cain often holds Obama to Obama's lowest support levels. Apparently, moderate Democrats and Independents aren't willing to say they'd support Obama, but want to hear more from Cain before they support him. Public Policy Polling predicts Perry performing poorly, plunging past Paul, perhaps prospecting Perot's paltry political production.

The take-away message of all this is that Perry supporters are helping Romney and Obama by attacking Cain. Knock it off.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; heartless; perry; polls; romney; vanity
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1 posted on 10/13/2011 9:02:44 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Then Cain shouldn’t be gone.


2 posted on 10/13/2011 9:03:54 AM PDT by lurk
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To: lurk

That seems “obvious to the most casual observer”.

GOP establishment wants X? X is a bad thing.


3 posted on 10/13/2011 9:05:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: dangus
"The take-away message of all this is that Perry supporters are helping Romney and Obama by attacking Cain. Knock it off."

Right on !

4 posted on 10/13/2011 9:05:53 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: dangus

Who’s gonna win the Super Bowl this year?


5 posted on 10/13/2011 9:07:08 AM PDT by McGruff (Still a member of Sarah's Army)
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To: dangus
What a surprise!

Do you mean to tell me that a well-polished and nicely packaged RINO clobbers another RINO which sounds like George W. Bush and debates even worse?

Knock me over with a feather!

6 posted on 10/13/2011 9:07:49 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: dangus
The take-away message of all this is that Perry supporters are helping Romney and Obama by attacking Cain. Knock it off.

Thank you! :)

7 posted on 10/13/2011 9:08:06 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in)
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To: dangus

Hear this very well, thou Cain-bashers amongst us!


8 posted on 10/13/2011 9:08:29 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: fieldmarshaldj

It should be clear by now to all, even to the most ardent ‘Cainiac’ that the polls show that Cain can not win. And if Cain is the conservative he claims to be and not a stalking horse for Romney he needs to pull out of the race and endorse Perry.

(sarc)


9 posted on 10/13/2011 9:09:00 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: lurk

These polls are a joke. Herman Cain will not get the GOP nomination. He has no money and after Obama no political lightweight will be nominated to run for president. If the GOP has a death wish, nominate Cain or his buddy Romney to run against Chairman Obama. A conservative will beat Obama, not a RINO or a Federal Reserve insider.


10 posted on 10/13/2011 9:09:02 AM PDT by Highlander1754
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I actually like Cain, but I think his 999 plan will sink him in the end. As Bachmann pointed out, the devil is in the details.

Having said that, I do think that Perry is probably finished at this point, barring a massive flip flop on his immigration position and a hard right shift on this issue, I don't know how he can recover at this point.

Gingrich will be the next man in line as the anti-Romney candidate.

11 posted on 10/13/2011 9:11:24 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Highlander1754

Herman Cain who truly was until recently a virtual unknown had faith enough in himself to decide to run for President of the United States on his own. There was no Media hype/pressure/build-up about a possible run, there was no urging by members of the Party, no words spoken into his ear by party players, elites, beltway boys or pundits, not even a word of encouragement from the Republican Party of his home state only faith in himself. Now after months of being treated as being a inconsequential candidate the curious sideshow of a conservative black Republican, he is now in the top tier along with people of great party pull, of men with experienced political machines and the dollars to power them. He did that on his own with no help from anyone accept by his own. Now think what a man with faith in himself like that could accomplish if given the chance.

Now many are saying Cain hasn’t a chance with his little formal organization and even less money.

Well let me remind all of you of what a recent movement did with no formal organization and even less money, The Tea Party.

The Tea Party manage with both those weakness to go on and change the political landscape and causing Leftist members of govenment,ellitist of both political parties and media types to quake in fear of them and their rath and all with only a minimum of formal organization and on a ‘shoe string’ budget.

That’s what sucessful AMERICANS do they start out with what they have and they MAKE IT WORK! They make it work because what they don’t have in manpower or money they make-up with brains, sweat, blood and last but most important faith.


12 posted on 10/13/2011 9:11:24 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: dangus

Perry’s only role in this has been to play spoiler for the GOP Establishment.


13 posted on 10/13/2011 9:11:46 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: dangus; Cincinatus' Wife

Yo wifey, ping all your perrywinkle pals.


14 posted on 10/13/2011 9:12:26 AM PDT by USS Alaska
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To: dangus

Wow, things are looking good for Cain. He should be able to sell a lot of books. A contract with Fox is in his future. On the other hand, he isn’t going to win the GOP nomination.

Wake up, people! Nobody goes directly from a radio chat show to the Oval Office. The world doesn’t work that way.
Whatever the polls show now, Romney will win in a walk unless Perry succeeds in consolidating the conservative opposition.

Enjoy the Cain fantasy while it lasts, but soon we’ll have to get serious.


15 posted on 10/13/2011 9:13:22 AM PDT by fluffdaddy (Who died and made the Supreme Court God?)
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To: Kartographer
Herman Cain grew up in Atlanta, Georgia with loving parents and little else. His father worked three jobs—as a janitor, a barber and a chauffeur—and his mother was a domestic worker. Even though these jobs required hard work and little glamour, his parents knew this life was better than the dirt farms upon which they grew up. They also knew that this hard work was the key to achieving their American Dreams.

Herman’s parents had two dreams. First, they wanted to own their own house. Secondly, they wanted both of their children to graduate from college. During the segregation era in the Deep South, these aspirations might have seemed lofty, but they knew that if they kept their faith in God, faith in themselves and faith in the greatest country on the Earth, they could achieve.

The first dream was realized in a modest brick house on Albert Street in Atlanta, Georgia. After years of saving from his many jobs, Herman’s father surprised the whole family, even his wife, by purchasing a home for their family. The second dream was realized when Herman graduated from Morehouse College with a degree in mathematics in 1967. His brother, Thurman, would go on to graduate from Morris Brown College.

Inspired by the work ethic and character of his parents, Herman continued his education by earning his Master’s degree in computer science from Purdue University while working full-time developing fire control systems for ships and fighter planes for the Department of the Navy. Though Herman enjoyed using his talents as a civilian employee for the Navy, he gravitated towards the culture of business.

Herman returned to his home of Atlanta to begin working as a computer systems analyst for the Coca-Cola Company. After considerable success at Coca-Cola, he moved to the Pillsbury Company. Within a short period of time, Herman rose to position of Vice President. Although the comforts of a corner office on the 31st floor of a majestic corporate building seemed satisfying, Herman knew that he needed a challenge.

He became the regional vice president of Pillsbury’s Burger King division. This meant starting from the “ground up,” dodging grease fires and broiling hamburgers. Herman was assigned to lead a low performing region of 450 of their restaurants. Within three years, it became the best performing region in the company.

Energized by overcoming the many obstacles of his job at Burger King, Herman took on the biggest challenge of his career. He accepted the call to become the President and CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, a company that was teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. In just 14 months, Herman returned Godfather’s to profitability and he led his management team to a buyout of the company.

His professional successes garnered the respect and admiration of industry peers who named him the President of the National Restaurant Association. Under Herman’s administration, the group grew significantly and began to lobby for the interests of America’s restaurateurs and small business owners.

In 1994, as head of the National Restaurant Association, he had the opportunity to speak with President Clinton during a nationally televised town hall meeting. Here, Herman challenged the President regarding the impact on businesses if his health care overhaul proposal were passed. President Clinton attempted to assure him and the millions of viewers watching at home that his legislation would not harm American business owners and their employees.

Herman was skeptical. “Quite honestly Mr. President, your calculations are incorrect,” he said. “In the competitive marketplace, it simply doesn’t work that way.” His words echoed across America, and Newsweek named Herman Cain the primary saboteur of Hillarycare.

Through these and other appearances on behalf of the National Restaurant Association, Herman began working with business leaders across all sectors of the American economy. This led to his acceptance of a position on the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, and he was subsequently elected their chairman. In this role, he analyzed economic conditions in the region and notified the Federal Reserve of how their policies should respond.

Most recently, he hosted a radio talk show, “The Herman Cain Show,” on Atlanta’s WSB 750 AM/ 95.5 FM. He serves as a regular contributor on several broadcast networks and as a keynote speaker at conferences and events around the nation.

Despite the many professional commitments of his life, Herman continues to enjoy most the time spent with family and friends. As his children got married and had their own children, he knew that he had an extraordinary obligation to do what he could to make this a safe and prosperous nation for them. The paramount joys in his life are his wife, Gloria, his children and his grandchildren.

Now I highlighted and underline Herman's working at the Fed to meet a promise that I made to many of the Paulist on FR. Herman was not a member of the Board of Governors which sets monetary policy. The Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City is more or less a bank for banks and what they do is provide financial services to depository institutions including banks, credit unions, and savings and loans, much like those that banks provide for their customers. These services include collecting checks, electronically transferring funds, and distributing and receiving cash and coin.

I know that sounds so very ominous.

16 posted on 10/13/2011 9:13:22 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

you are absoultely right.

If someone had asked me if Obama could beat Hillary back in 2007 I would of laughed in their face.


17 posted on 10/13/2011 9:13:42 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Cain’s going all the way. Newt is a has-been who burned his bridges with the Conservative base.


18 posted on 10/13/2011 9:14:20 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: dangus

When will Perry drop out?


19 posted on 10/13/2011 9:14:51 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter Hobbit)
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To: dangus

With Romney gone, Cain would DESTROY Perry.


20 posted on 10/13/2011 9:15:07 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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