Democrats believe payroll tax victory bolsters chances of taking House

The Hill ^ | 12/24/2011 | Alexander Bolton

[muawiyah]

It's long past the time when 100% of FICA should have been transferred to the employer side of the ledger.

The Democrats, who'd love to tax millionaires, are actually afraid to do that. They'd lose the very minor benefit they get from arguments about cutting it a bit, then extending it, then extending it a little bit, and then wrapping it up in zigzag paper and smoking it, or using it as a suppository, or whatever.

Now, for a follow on to this, barring some accident of fate that makes that idea look really good to the Democrats, Republicans should up the ante by REQUIRING that all FICA paid by employers be considered a deductible business expenses if and only if the employee on whose behalf that payment was made has been certified by E-Verify to be in the country lawfully.

Some "millionaires" will end up paying higher taxes on their profits ~ but some illegal aliens will abruptly discover that their going rate is too high for the market.

An American might well be able to get a job in America.

[Sooth2222]

Have you seen Clinton lately; he is not that charismatic anymore.

Except for Zero (who may be a complete doofus but sounds good if you don't pay attention to the words) Bubba Bill would be about their only shot.

The Dems are whistling past the graveyard if they think a $40 tax cut or $40 increase is going to make any difference at all when nobody is listening. Have you been near a shopping mall lately? I haven't seen crowds like that since Bush was president!

[EGPWS]

Democrats believe payroll tax victory bolsters chances of taking House

Can't be, that would make democrats politically motivated at the cost of what is best for the country.

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[upchuck]

Social Security withholding from a paycheck is not a TAX, nor a CONTRIBUTION. Rather the money is a LOAN. In that the money will be returned to you some day when you begin collecting Social Security. Unfortunately, the loan is interest free.

[T. Jefferson]

Lunacy. Democrats handed the republicans a perfect campaign ad. Democrats support raiding the social security trust fund, denying senior citizens their pension. Obamacare raided seniors health care benefits,by stripping $500 billion from Medicare. and instituting death panels. And Obama denied seniors 2 years of automatic SS check cost of living increases, slashing all seniors income by 5%. The most anti-senior citizen cpresident in history.

He cut their income, their health care, and their pension.

[LibLieSlayer]

They are codified as insurance premiums... paid into a fund... so that the government can pay it back to us in retirement. It is OUR money... not a tax... not that the repubics will ever say it... the dims shite on the Constitution... the republicans nod in approval.

LLS

[Pit1]

The dems are sob full of crap, their eyes are brown.

[linn37]

haha 40 bucks for two months does not buy a lot of votes.

[Pontiac]

Bill Richardson might make a run at it in 2016 but he does have a few skeletons in the closet. But if Obama was to drop dead I think he could have a shot. He does have some personality as opposed to the average Democrat.

But other than Hilary I don’t think any other Democrat would waste their time running against Obama with his huge war chest.

[Toddsterpatriot]

if and only if the employee on whose behalf that payment was made has been certified by E-Verify to be in the country lawfully.

I like it!

[sharkhawk]

How are the self employed to handle this? I can see the whole year holiday, simply pay 2% less on next years taxes. For 2 months it seems to me it’s going to be a mess.

[muawiyah]

Later, let's say right after the August recess we have another go at it by extending the non-deductibility to ALL salary or hourly wage or even a "bonus" paid to an employee who isn't cleared by E-verify.

That way Democrats get another meaningful tax increase on some people who are "millionaires".

Some American might get a job out of this.

I have some future permutations on this that'll curl David Axelrod's hair!

[Toddsterpatriot]

Anything that increases the use of E-verify and pressures illegals to leave sounds good to me.

[eclecticEel]

Next fall, who exactly is going too even remember any of this? Dream on, ‘rats.

[John S Mosby]

In fact, if republicans are smart they will point out to the vanishing middle class, that it was democrats in the senate, who insisted on reducing the extension to two months, and obama forced the house to give up extending for a year. Two can play this game—and use the 40 bucks constantly vs. the year.

When it comes up again in February— up the ante Republicans— push for a 5 year extension with a choice between getting the money (no withholding)or putting it into their own private account, like a CASH-401K. That’ll fix the dems for good, if they say “nooooooo”.

[depressed in 06]

They may be able to stave off a veto proof House.

[italianquaker]

Wait I thought healthcare,finreg, doddfrank etc would of did this per the media, plz

[DJ Taylor]

"Next fall, who exactly is going too even remember any of this?"

You're right. The only people paying attention to this are the informed voters and Democrats certainly aren't that.

[Theodore R.]

Boehner and McC are incompetents set on failure, but they have the support that counts: Republican members of the House and Senate, who expect to increase their ranks by 2013, but will they? The Republicans are offering only that they are not-Obama, but are they?

[MosesKnows]

Democrats believe payroll tax victory bolsters chances of taking House

That is one of the best indicators of how gullible and naive the Democrats believe the liberals are. They already know the progressives and other socialist will vote for them regardless. This is evidence of how ignorant and unable to think they believe the hoi polloi are.