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If not Mitt....
Andrew McCarthy | Vanity

Posted on 07/01/2012 6:22:21 PM PDT by Wagonboy

Columnist Andrew McCarthy gives us what probably is the most important question regarding the upcoming presidential election now that Mitt has won the GOP race, “…I will enthusiastically support his candidacy. For my friends who have hesitation on that score, I’d just ask you to keep four things in mind: 1.. Justice Scalia just turned 78 2.. Justice Kennedy will turn 78 later this year 3.. Justice Breyer will be 76 in August 4.. Justice Ginsburg just turned 81. We wish them all well, of course, but the brute fact is that whoever we elect as president in November is almost certainly going to choose at least one and maybe more new members of the Supreme Court — in addition to hundreds of other life-tenured federal judges, all of whom will be making momentous decisions about our lives for decades to come. If you don’t think it matters whether the guy making those calls is Mitt Romney or Barack Obama, I think you’re smokin’ something funky ...” So for anybody who is thinking of not voting because your favorite didn’t get nominated, or writing in a candidate who can't win, imagine this: SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ERIC HOLDER or CHUCK SCHUMER or HILLARY CLINTON.


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1 posted on 07/01/2012 6:22:29 PM PDT by Wagonboy
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To: Wagonboy

I’m not voting for Mittens not because he “wasn’t my favorite.” But because he is a usurper, a pathological liar, and a big government progressive who will nominate judges “in the mold of John Roberts.”


2 posted on 07/01/2012 6:26:40 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: RaisingCain

He’s more likely to nominate justices in the mold of John Paul Stevens and David Souter.


3 posted on 07/01/2012 6:28:49 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: RaisingCain

Who will you write in or support?

Which past GOP nominee did you support?


4 posted on 07/01/2012 6:28:53 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: RaisingCain

A-men. Look at his judicial record in Massachusetts.


5 posted on 07/01/2012 6:29:47 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: NoLibZone

Fair question actually.

I look forward to the reply.


6 posted on 07/01/2012 6:31:03 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: RaisingCain

>>I’m not voting for Mittens not because he “wasn’t my favorite.” But because he is a usurper, a pathological liar, and a big government progressive who will nominate judges “in the mold of John Roberts.”<<

barak obama thanks you for your vote.


7 posted on 07/01/2012 6:31:38 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Guns Walked -- People Died -- Holder Lied -- Obama Golfed (thanks, Secret Agent Man))
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To: Wagonboy
We cannot vote for a lying backstabber who is the
author of RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE and who shamelessly
neither refutes it NOR acknowledges it.

Shame on the GOPe for stealing the election from the
people, as it did in 2008.



8 posted on 07/01/2012 6:31:59 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Wagonboy

I used to foolishly believe that the party in control of the Presidency mattered when it came to judicial appointments.

That was BJR (Before John Roberts) though.


9 posted on 07/01/2012 6:31:59 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: RaisingCain

I’m voting for Mitt and praying for a Tea Party infested Congress.

I live on the left coast and will do what I can....as should we all.


10 posted on 07/01/2012 6:32:22 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Wagonboy

Mittens will appoint more of the same affirmative action, Harvard liberals we now have sitting on the bench.

Do not forget what RINO means.


11 posted on 07/01/2012 6:32:57 PM PDT by wrench
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To: freedumb2003

“barak obama thanks you for your vote.”


And your masters thank you for yours. And for your vote in 2016. And 2020. And so on and so forth. Well, it won’t go too much longer, considering the schmucks running things.


12 posted on 07/01/2012 6:33:50 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: wrench

Obama will appoint much, much worse.

Just making that clear.

Obama has the media and the establishment in his pocket. Romney has ... Romney.

Vote for Romney. If he messes up, we can vote him out. We cannot vote out, any democrats. That is (much) tougher.

Pick wisely.


13 posted on 07/01/2012 6:36:13 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Wagonboy

If we endorse Romney this time, the establishment GOP might take heart and nominate Lincoln Chafee or Olympia Snowe next time. After all, if we are willing to vote for anybody with an “R” after their name, they might as well continue this trend and nominate someone even more liberal. And what kind of judges would Chafee and Snowe select?

Unless we stop the trend, we will simply keep getting even worse and worse handbasket drivers as our nominee.

Voting for Romney may be great tactics, but it’s horrible strategy.


14 posted on 07/01/2012 6:37:47 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Mitt Romney is a handbasket driver. I refuse to ride.)
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To: RaisingCain

Exactly. Unless the GOP establishment owns us, we don’t have to sell them our vote. Mine’s not for sale. What will Romney give this country? Watered-down, middle of the road leadership? That would only hurt conservatism in the long run.

Vote tea party, vote conservatives, and take away Baracks’s power. That’s the way to win. I may not vote for any of the above on the presidential ballot, personally.


15 posted on 07/01/2012 6:40:58 PM PDT by buckleyfan (WFB, save us!)
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To: Wagonboy

Have an open convention and nominate Sarah Palin and dump Mitt!!


16 posted on 07/01/2012 6:41:04 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Wagonboy
Does it really matter, now that we know that the purpose of the Supreme Court is to find for the government at all costs?
17 posted on 07/01/2012 6:41:04 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Wagonboy

From Redstate, 2007:

Romney, despite his opposition to same-sex marriage, in May selected for a district court judgeship Stephen S. Abany, a former board member of the Massachusetts Lesbian and Gay Bar Association who organized the group’s opposition to a 1999 bill to outlaw same-sex marriage. Just two days before the nomination, Romney was lamenting the liberal tilt of the state’s bench, telling Fox News that ‘’our courts have a record here in Massachusetts, don’t they, of being a little blue and being Kerry-like.”

Talk about doing one thing and saying another.

Troubling Part #2


Another Romney choice for the bench is Marianne C. Hinkle, a registered Democrat who worked as an aide to Governor Michael S. Dukakis in the late 1970s and prosecuted John C. Salvi III in the 1994 Brookline abortion clinic shootings. Hinkle, in her application for the bench, describes herself as a longtime active member of Dignity/USA, a group that advocates for expanded gay rights in the Catholic Church and society generally.

Great. Nice moderate choice there, Mitty.

Troubling Part #3


Romney, asked if he has engaged in any horse-trading with Democratic politicians, said: ‘’So far I have not ever given any weight whatsoever to whether I think someone can make it through the Governor’s Council. I send them individuals who I feel are highly qualified and have the right judicial temperament related to crime and punishment.”

I was about to give him some leniency due to the makeup of the council, but he says it does not matter. He only cared about crime, but not other judicial issues? Wow.

Now, there were some good appointments too, so I want to be fair. But was the Mass court system not already filled with enough liberals? I’m sure there were more “moderate” choices available that would have still made it through.

http://archive.redstate.com/blogs/mikeks/2007/dec/20/romney_appointed_liberal_judges_in_massachusetts


18 posted on 07/01/2012 6:43:28 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Romney is a CHEATING Backstabber WHOSE ONLY
accomplishments are INCREASED TAXES for everyone
(from the Olympics to RomneyCARE — both with
federal BAILOUTS) and DEATH PANELS.

Romney is a sure loser. If the GOP is to survive,
Romney will be dumped.


19 posted on 07/01/2012 6:43:36 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Wagonboy

So did you even bother to take a look at Mitt Romney appointees before writing this?


20 posted on 07/01/2012 6:43:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: RaisingCain

I had predicted many times on FR that if Mitty was the R nominee, there would be a Tea Party challenger on the ballot in most red states leading to Baraq winning with a Clintonian plurality similar to 1992.

Apparently that isn’t going to happen.


21 posted on 07/01/2012 6:47:13 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Wagonboy

Doesn’t matter, All of our elected officials and their appointees are part of the problem. We the people continue to elect assholes to office and they continue to appoint assholes. What is the problem with understanding that?

Yes, most people have no idea about politics and politicians and their effect on government.

Stupid people raised by stupid parents raised by stupid teachers - stupid people.

We are to blame is my guess!


22 posted on 07/01/2012 6:48:46 PM PDT by Deagle (nOT Get a)
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To: nascarnation

Every poll (except the FIXED ones owned by BAIN and Soros)
show that OBAMA trounces Romney-the-CHOSENLOSER.

Bishop RomneyCARE is LOSING NOW, and the MSM
has not even begun.


23 posted on 07/01/2012 6:49:58 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Diogenesis

While I understand (and to some degree agree with) your concern, my choice is to support our nominee.

Until next time.

We’ll get ‘em next time. Ok?

Get it all out of your system, but make the break on November 6th (I believe) to vote for Mitt.

Thanks. :D


24 posted on 07/01/2012 6:51:16 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Diogenesis

Baraq only had 53% last time looking like a conquering hero with his Greek columns.

Now he can’t even get a Democrat outside of Ca, Il, or Ny to appear on stage with him.

I’m not nearly as convinced he’s a shoe-in.

The MSM may not have begun, but Mitty’s Mormon army hasn’t cranked up yet either.


25 posted on 07/01/2012 6:55:04 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

We will NOT vote for the lying Romney who
has delivered already BY HIS FIAT RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE
and SO MUCH MORE.

If you are satisfied as he lies about it, FRiend,
then may your brain see the truth in time.


26 posted on 07/01/2012 6:56:25 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Wagonboy
Don't worry about the attacks.

There is a coven of troll BO supporters who attack anyone who dares suggest anything but slavish love and adoration for voting for him.

27 posted on 07/01/2012 6:57:10 PM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: Wagonboy

How did Romney win the primary? He got more votes than the other guys. If one of the other guys had garnered more votes, than he or she would have been the nominee. They all had a fighting chance. Romney won.

Yeah, he had more money. And his money bought organization who could do the job. Back in the 1950s, the NY Yankees won the AL pennant every year except 1954 and 1959. The Yankee organization was the richest, they could afford to buy the best players from the minors and from other teams. That’s life.


28 posted on 07/01/2012 7:10:51 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Cicero

So what’s your point? Should we vote for Obama then?

Would judges like Scalia and Thomas have been confirmed by the Mass legislature?


29 posted on 07/01/2012 7:10:51 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Obama will appoint much, much worse.

Good post. This is one of those elections where the choice is not between good or bad, but between the bad and the really, really bad.

This is not the time to send the GOP elite a message (like they'd listen anyway). For the sake of the next generation, we must rally around Romney.

I just never believed it would come to that....

30 posted on 07/01/2012 7:14:50 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

If Mr. Romney DOES NOT RALLY AROUND CONSERVATIVES
IMMEDIATELY and RENOUNCE ROMNEY Death Panels
and ROMNEY Taxes and ROMNEYCARE/OBAMACARE
then Mr. Romney is not to be trusted.


31 posted on 07/01/2012 7:17:26 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Wagonboy; All

This same piece of crap has already been posted within the past few weeks, in the guise of an ‘email’ received by a poster, who then happily posted it as a ‘vanity’ because the poster couldn’t even come up with any original material.

The fake justification about the age of the existing justices on the SCOTUS is total bullshit, and all one needs to do is to first, consider the fact that Romney’s record when it comes to appointing judges during his term as Governor in Assachusetts strongly suggests that his choices will be in the future, as they were then, i.e., he will pick LIBERALS, liberals who will be not much different than the likes of Krazy Kagen and the ‘Wise Latina’.

Second, look at what Romney’s own website is saying, that as President “he would appoint judges like Chief Justice John Roberts”, oh now that’s a real howler there pal, or didn’t you notice that?

If you wanted to spare yourself some embarrassment, ask the mod to yank this unoriginal and repetitive thread.


32 posted on 07/01/2012 7:29:40 PM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: Wagonboy

Given Mitt Romneycare’s picks when he was governor, not one of those mentioned sounds like someone Mitt would not also pick.


33 posted on 07/01/2012 7:36:01 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

If Romney wins in the fall it’ll be better than a 0bama win, of course, but he’ll find some kind of “mandate” that the voters never intended and he’ll do some kind of Socialism-lite garbage and be a one-termer and the dems will win in 2016 regardless of who they run.

Your term “handbasket drivers” is a great phrase that unfortunately rings too true.


34 posted on 07/01/2012 7:38:55 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( ABO - 2012 )))))
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To: freedumb2003

The communist party, the homosexuals, and the abortion lobby all thank you both for your vote and your enthusiastic opposition to everyone who will not bow before them.


35 posted on 07/01/2012 7:41:07 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: comebacknewt

I used to foolishly believe that the party in control of the Presidency mattered when it came to judicial appointments.

That was BJR (Before John Roberts) though.

You make a good point. It seems that the GOP justices make sure that at least one of them sides with the despots on the really important decisions. It’s almost like we are being deceived into believing that the Dems and the GOP have a different end game in mind.


36 posted on 07/01/2012 7:51:57 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Diogenesis
If Mr. Romney DOES NOT RALLY AROUND CONSERVATIVES IMMEDIATELY...

Excellent turn of the phrase. I just wish that I would have thought of it first!

We have to rally around Romney. But as you said, Romney must first rally around us.

37 posted on 07/01/2012 7:52:10 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Diogenesis

it’s like a bad echo that comes around every 4 years.


38 posted on 07/01/2012 7:58:13 PM PDT by stickywillie (a corrupt parallel universe exists beside our wonderful Constitution)
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To: wrench

and should Willard actually claw his way to the WH, dont forget that fellow Harvard Law School grad Barak Obama would then be available to be nominated to the SC...

and dont think for one mo that Willie Mitty would hesitate to appoint him...

It has been done before ...the WH to the SC..

and then of course there is Harry Reid...


39 posted on 07/01/2012 7:58:47 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Mitt wears magic undies, he’s da man.

He’s a pragmatist. If the conservatives get a landslide in the election he’d be an idiot not to dance with those who brought him to the dance.

See tagline


40 posted on 07/01/2012 8:16:13 PM PDT by polkajello (Romney: The Lesser of Two Weasels)
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To: RaisingCain

romey believes is the doctrine of preemption. That will be ok for China against you? That will be ok for Iran against Israel? He also is the father of communist health care. He also wears magic underwear. He is losing real bad in Florida, Pennsylvania , Ohio, Wisconsin and he will lose real bad just like McAmnesty because millions of conservatives wont vote for this empty suit. Get use to it. Either get us a candidate we can trust or go to hell.


41 posted on 07/01/2012 8:16:45 PM PDT by marygonzo
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To: polkajello

If the conservatives get a landslide in the election he’d be an idiot not to dance with those who brought him to the dance.
_________________________________________

Good grief !!!

You dont really believe that do you ???

Do you think he really cares what Conservatives think or want ???

Do you not understand just how “leaning-across-the-aisle” Willard is ???


42 posted on 07/01/2012 8:21:32 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Wagonboy
If you don’t think it matters whether the guy making those calls is Mitt Romney or Barack Obama, I think you’re smokin’ something funky ...”

I haven't smoked anything funky since my 20s, and yeah, I don't think it really matters. GOP presidents with better conservative credentials than Romney have given us Earl Warren, Harry Blackmun, William Brennan, Anthony Kennedy, David Souter and now John Roberts. Meanwhile, Democrat SC nominees march in lockstep toward their statist wonderland - I'm still trying to think of one Democrat-nominated SC justice who has departed from the liberal orthodoxy in my lifetime or my parents lifetimes.
43 posted on 07/01/2012 8:23:30 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: MindBender26
Don't worry about the attacks.

There is a coven of troll BO supporters who attack anyone who dares suggest anything but slavish love and adoration for voting for him.

Surely you realize that calling those of us who want to tell the Republican Party Elites "No more of my votes for a RINO" BO supporting trolls means the owner of this site is a troll on his own site.

44 posted on 07/01/2012 8:32:12 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: Signalman

“He got more votes than the other guys.”

Yes, I’m not a Romney fan by any means, but somehow this point you make seems to be ignored by many people.

If Romney has been “foisted” on us as the nominee he’s been foisted on us by our fellow Republican voters.


45 posted on 07/01/2012 9:19:08 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Cicero
Please tell us the procedure for the appointment of the various Judges in Mass.

Let me help. Whomever the Governor nominates must be approved by Judicial Nominating Commission - established by Dukakis in 1975. When Romney was Governor, the Judicial Nominating Commission was made up of 8 democrats and 1 Republican. He was able to appoint a conservative member of the Federalist Society to chair the JNC to try and block activist judges to a higher position than District Court and Clerk Magistrate level appointees.

Romney was Governor in a state with 12% as registered Republicans. The democrats had majorities in both chambers of the Massachusetts legislature.

In Mass., the democrats stack the deck AND mark the cards.

46 posted on 07/01/2012 9:23:59 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Wagonboy

Perhaps it is the Establishment who should have thought through this dilemma, BEFORE Romney.

They funded him, supported him and twisted arms and favors for him and went all subterreanean on everyone else, just dead air silence for any and all conservatives with brains, just to get Romney the socialist at the top of a Republican ticket.

Well. Now they’ve got him and it’s suppose to be on my back to do their sweatshop work to get him elected?

Why should I, the voter, have to feel the heat, their threat really, to pull their sorry fat out of the fire and perpetuate their fraud on the party so they can keep their power?

I pray the convention will knock him out and Americans get a concience or a backbone for once.


47 posted on 07/01/2012 9:25:49 PM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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48 posted on 07/01/2012 9:33:05 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Wagonboy

No one at FR can answer this:

Who will you write in or support?

Which past GOP nominee did you support?


49 posted on 07/01/2012 9:33:05 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: Wagonboy

Since you offer no alternative (s) :

Do you guys feel Obama is a better choice than Mitt?


50 posted on 07/01/2012 9:38:50 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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