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Did Investigator Mike Zullo Rely On 1969 Code #9 for Obama's COLB Or Code #9 from 1961?
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/vsus_1961_1.pdf ^

Posted on 07/23/2012 9:21:28 PM PDT by Fred Garvin-MP

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To: LibertyRocks

Precisely!


181 posted on 07/24/2012 5:02:58 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Sometimes I can’t resist feeding them either... Perhaps what I should say is don’t indulge their theories - just confront them with the cold, hard, facts.

As you can see I couldn’t resist one more post to one of the apparent trolls myself, so I suppose one could call me a bit of a hypocrite today. I’m just tired of these paid or volunteer propagandists assuming people are so stupid that they wouldn’t see through half of their BS when they pretend to be so confused, but yet “know so much”. Especially when their buddies come to save them when they get too much flak they can’t talk their way out of.


182 posted on 07/24/2012 5:06:57 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks; Windflier; philman_36; Brown Deer

First, I politely ask your forgiveness for any stupid remarks you may read after this ...

It would be interesting to see if the code numbers given on BO’s certificate aligned with those of Virginia Sunahara’s brother’s certificate ... and that’s assuming (making an ass of me not u) all data other than the baby’s name, sex, dob, etc., were the same. For example, father’s race and occupation codes.

I spend a lot of time on this subject, but not nearly as much as I’d like. As with most folks, there’s just not enough time in the day. Forgive me if the idea has already been quashed by more recent info of which I’m unaware.

Is there a copy floating about of Virginia’s brother’s birth certificate? Or, is it known that the info would definitely differ due to having a different father or what have you?

Best Regards,

SC


183 posted on 07/24/2012 5:53:29 PM PDT by SouthernClaire
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To: Dr. Sivana

I haven’t read all the comments yet, so forgive if I repeat what someone else has said.

If #9 in 1961 actually meant “other non-white”

then explain how they got from “African” to #9 (other NON-white)

when Africa had many WHITE people living in it in 1961.

“African” tells nothing about race, so how would anyone like the perfectionist Ms. Lee ASSUME “non-white”?


184 posted on 07/24/2012 6:48:53 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: rxsid

So do you beleive the notion that Obama supporters are saying, that Obama Sr or one of the family members ‘self reported’ him as ‘African’ when filling out the birth registration and the clerk or registrar accepted it?


185 posted on 07/24/2012 7:15:25 PM PDT by Fred Garvin-MP
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To: philman_36
Twenty years ago, he said he was Norwegian...


186 posted on 07/24/2012 7:26:28 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Windflier

Comments and photos are getting very interesting on this thread, especially in the 400s comments.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2908395/posts?page=485

There was a dustup, and now FN is unleashing a lot of stuff. Riveting.


187 posted on 07/24/2012 7:28:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: chatter4

9 was a nearly universal code indicating a blank/null numeric field. A decade or so later, when the code was changed to two digits, as was reported earlier in this thread, notice that the 9 for “not stated” became, wonder of wonders, 99!

Ask anybody who worked in computer programming, coding, keypunching, etc., back in the days of punched cards and magnetic tape. 9 was filler for a numeric field that could not be left blank but for which there was no data supplied.

When, for example, a person didn’t have a social security number but a computer program required a number to be in that field, 999999999 was the social security number and it meant, guess what? There wasn’t a number to put in so we filled it with 9s.

That’s why when the race field was left blank on that birth certificate, Verna coded it 9. When the type of business was left blank, Verna coded it 9. It’s simple. It’s common knowledge among people old enough to know and remember.

Don’t insult the woman by saying she’s old and forgot. When you spend hours and hours, day in and day out, for years, coding stuff like this, you don’t “forget”. Zullo is a detective and has been in law enforcement for years. He knows how to investigate and he’s smart enough to make sure before he makes allegations. Prosecutors make sure to keep cops on their toes.


188 posted on 07/24/2012 7:57:28 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Brown Deer

I alrady solved this mystery years ago, and posted it here on FR. Think Gilligan’s Island!


189 posted on 07/24/2012 7:59:08 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: 4Zoltan

Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father’s race and mother’s race are supplied by the parents, and that “we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be.””

Yes, they accept it NOW. He was speaking to the procedure they use in the 21st century. Circa 1961, there was no such thing as “self identified” race.


190 posted on 07/24/2012 7:59:26 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: 4Zoltan

Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father’s race and mother’s race are supplied by the parents, and that “we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be.””

Yes, they accept it NOW. He was speaking to the procedure they use in the 21st century. Circa 1961, there was no such thing as “self identified” race.


191 posted on 07/24/2012 7:59:26 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: LibertyRocks

When I say Feds, I mean the guys putting out the Vital Statistic annual reports which was the National Vital Statistic Division of the National Institute for Health Statistics

As to why I focus on the Federal coding requirements, it’s because Zullo says that is what Hawaii was using.

At the 12:22 mark of the press conference,

“...we started to pursue leads and made the determination that these codings were actually vital statistics codings, required by the federal government in 1960.”

And at the 13:11 mark, he describes what Ms. Lee told them,

“...they were coded by hand with numerals that meant something to the federal government. The federal government required this because they would take that coded information which is of a numeric value and they would use it on magnetic tape for their census records and other statistical records that they needed.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alVzyfptF80

And in the videos shown during the press conference, they used tables from the 1968 Federal tape instructions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yft0kz_fbnA

I haven’t listen to the entire press conference again but I don’t recall hearing any reference to Hawaii having their own codes. Can you point it out to me?


192 posted on 07/24/2012 9:31:38 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: LibertyRocks

“Zullo stated specifically that he used the HAWAIIAN manuals”

Can you provide a link where he specifcally says that? I couln’t find it in the press conference, was it afterwards in an interview?


193 posted on 07/24/2012 9:38:59 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: LibertyRocks
No more playing with the food?! Aw, maaaaan...{;^)
194 posted on 07/24/2012 9:43:58 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Brown Deer
No, no...I read that thread/article. It was satire written about him.
195 posted on 07/24/2012 9:46:44 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Brown Deer

If I don’t reply it doesn’t mean I didn’t read it.


196 posted on 07/24/2012 9:48:12 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Greenperson

Exactly, and they are still doing it ( as of a few years ago ). A few years ago, my father applied for Social Security. They initially denied his payments saying he made too much that year - specifically $999,999.99 .


197 posted on 07/24/2012 10:05:29 PM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself- Mark Twain)
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To: 4Zoltan; Brown Deer; philman_36; melancholy; null and void; rxsid; hoosiermama

What is the “National Institute for Health Statistics”? It doesn’t exist, and never has.
Also, there is no such thing as the “National Vital Statistic Division of the National Institute for Health Statistics”.

Birth Certificates are not standardized nationally. The specific layout and information contained varies from state to state. Zullo explained why they used the table they did in the presentation during the press conference...


198 posted on 07/24/2012 10:36:33 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: SouthernClaire

I’m afraid I’m not up to speed regarding the Sunahara BC. I’m sorry if my responses to others on this thread have made you wary to ask questions.

Part of my hostility comes from dealing so long with people who obviously know way more than they claim, and try to pretend they are merely confused... As you can see from some of the comments on this thread, it quickly becomes apparent that some amazingly have an incredible amount of “information” and “education” on these subjects once they are engaged in a conversation about specifics.

If I knew more about the Sunahara BC I would be happy to answer your question. I understand not being able to spend as much time as one would like on this subject, I feel that way myself.


199 posted on 07/24/2012 10:48:34 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks

THere is a very interesting discussion on this thread, gets especially interesting around comment 400, you might want to check it out. Not absolutely b.c. directed, but the whole eligibility shebang.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2908395/posts?page=515


200 posted on 07/24/2012 11:16:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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