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The Marxist Plan to Bankrupt the United States: Is History Repeating Itself?
Original research into FBI archives | 12/10/2012 | FReeper Fedora

Posted on 12/10/2012 9:15:43 PM PST by Fedora

In light of current events, I thought it would be relevant to post an obscure but important bit of information about a Marxist plan to bankrupt America which I found back in 2005 when I was researching the VVAW.

The information comes from the "8/25/1972 FBI Information Digest Special Report on VVAW" (FBI file HQ 100-448092, Section 32, PDF pp. 31-45). The report was prepared while the government was preparing its case against Scott Camil and other VVAW defendants in the Gainesville Eight trial, initiated after the US intelligence community became aware that Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) was conspiring with other antiwar groups and elements of Democratic Presidential candidate George McGovern’s campaign to violently disrupt the Republican National Convention that August. The document summarized information the FBI had collected on VVAW involvement in Communist activity, espionage, and sabotage.

One part of the report mentioned the VVAW's sending of delegates to the World Assembly for Peace, aka World Assembly for the Peace and Independence of the Peoples of Indochina. This was an international antiwar assembly held in Versailles, France from February 11-13, 1972. It was sponsored by the World Peace Council (WPC), the Soviets’ main international antiwar front, along with the Stockholm Conference on Vietnam (aka World Conference on Vietnam), a similar KGB front. The assembly was attended by over 1200 delegates from 84 countries, including delegates from North Vietnam. The VVAW was one of the US organizations that sent a delegation.

The document included a list of other US organizations attending, among which was a group called the National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO). In researching the background of this group, I discovered they were pursuing a plan to abuse the welfare system to bankrupt the economies of major U.S. cities. Here is the summary of the NWRO's background I compiled during my research:

National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO): CP-supported welfare rights group founded in 1967 aligned with the antiwar movement. NWRO was based on applying the theories of Columbia University’s Marxist sociologist couple Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, who drew inspiration from CP-linked organizer Saul Alinsky (see entry for “United Farmworkers Organizing Committee”) and the 1965 Watts riots in Los Angeles. In November 1965 Cloward and Piven advanced a plan to deliberately overload the welfare systems of New York and other major cities with more recipients than they could afford and thereby cause an economic crisis to force a socialist political revolution on the national level and federalize the governmental Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) welfare program. Seeking an organizer to implement their plan, Cloward and Piven recruited as Executive Director of NWRO George Wiley, a former member of the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) who had become disillusioned with more conventional approaches to civil rights and had founded a more militant civil rights and welfare rights group, the Poverty Rights Action Center (PRAC), in 1964. Assisting Wiley as Chair of NWRO was Johnnie Tillmon, a single black mother with six children who had formed a welfare rights group called Aid to Needy Children-Mothers Anonymous (ANC-Mothers Anonymous) in Watts in 1963 and had subsequently been elected to the LA County Welfare Rights Organization (CWRO). Under Wiley and Tillmon’s leadership, NWRO drew 90% of its membership from black mothers receiving AFDC welfare, and accordingly it tended to form united front joining the welfare movement, the civil rights movement, and the feminist movement, and after 1969, the antiwar movement as well. In New York City the NWRO received political support from Welfare Commissioner Mitchell Ginsberg, who doubled the number of welfare recipients on the city payroll between 1967 and 1973, which would bankrupt the city by 1975. Following an internal conflict between Wiley and a faction of the NWRO aligned with former Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee leader John Lewis, Wiley began replacing NWRO leadership with all black males, and appointed former CORE activist James Farmer as NWRO Associate Director. In September 1970 Farmer and Southern Christian Leadership Conference leader James Bevel led a coalition of black civil rights groups called the Family of Man on a march to the Black Panther Party-organized Revolutionary People’s Constitutional Convention (RPCC) in Philadelphia. Through arrangements made by black VVAW leader Al Hubbard, Farmer’s Family of Man marchers joined marchers from the VVAW’s Operation RAW rally in nearby Valley Forge, where Bevel spoke. Both an NWRO delegation and VVAW leader Al Hubbard travelled to Versailles, France in February 1972 to attend the World Assembly for the Peace and Independence of the Peoples of Indochina, sponsored by the Soviet fronts the World Peace Council and the Stockholm Conference on Vietnam. In 1973 CP members in the NWRO clashed with fascist Lyndon LaRouche, who tried to form a similar group under his own control, the National Unemployed and Welfare Rights Organization (NUWRO), by sending thugs to physically disrupt NWRO meetings and attack CP members there.

Is there a continuity between the plot mentioned here and current economic problems? I cannot confirm that without additional research (and let me add that even if this is the case, I am not proposing this as a complete explanation of the current economic crisis by any stretch), but in light of Alinsky's influence on the current generation of politicians, it is a line of research worth pursuing.


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KEYWORDS: 2012; alinksy; democrats; fiscalcliff; nwro; obama; socialistdemocrats; vanity
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bflr


21 posted on 12/11/2012 1:44:45 AM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: Fedora

The only good Marxist is a dead Marxist.


22 posted on 12/11/2012 2:04:29 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: dalereed

Thanks for sharing the personal experience. I vaguely recall coming across a Congressional or California Congressional investigation into the roots of the Watts riots that had some information identifying some of the forces behind it. I’d need to refresh my memory on the details but off the top of my head, I came across it while researching the history of the Los Angeles CP and what became the nucleus of the LA branch of the BPP there a few years later.


23 posted on 12/11/2012 2:41:26 AM PST by Fedora
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To: AlexW

Yes, the Soviet Union ended, but Marxism was older than the USSR and it survived by shifting its base of operations and tactics, using springboards like the former East Germany, Cuba and Latin American Marxist groups, and left-wing groups and political factions in France and the US, notably the DSA lobby within the Democratic Party. A conservative friend from France who had moved here once told me that the only difference between the platform of the French Socialist Party and the American Democrats he could detect was that the Democrats didn’t call themselves Socialists.


24 posted on 12/11/2012 2:53:13 AM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora; LucyT

I wonder if anyone notices or cares that Social Security receipts have declined the last 3 years.

From the WH’s own data:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals/

Table 2.1

Actual s for total SS receipts
2008 - 900,155
2009 - 890,917
2010 - 864,814
2011 - 818,792

This is not due to the 2% reduction either. Congress injects (borrowed) funds in to offset that.

So? We have been in a recession - right?

The alarming part of this is that NEVER in the history of Social Security was there EVER a downturn in receipts. Even in the worst previous recessions. And certainly nothing anywhere near close to a 3 year running trend.

This metric alone tells us how fast the tables are turning.

And look at the projections for the next 3 years.

2012 - 840,650
2013 - 959,057
2014 - 1,038,701

There has not been 10% YTY growth since the late 1980s. The estimate for 2012 is probably overly rosy. But 2013 is pure fantasy.

The point of this being using the tables at the link above it easy to see the bankruptcy happening right before our eyes.


25 posted on 12/11/2012 3:01:46 AM PST by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Thanks for the perspective helping to put some of this in historical context. I have been able to trace the roots of the black/white extremist convergence back to Germany’s sabotage network during the World Wars, which the Soviets effectively inherited through Lenin and Trotsky’s network and its successors. Basically, the Germans would recruit any subsversive group that could hamper the US, including black nationalist groups during the pre-WWII and WWII period. From there the convergence becomes more pronounced during the 1960s period where you pick up, and your analysis sounds on-track to me.

When you mention Jack O’Dell, I’ll add Stanley Levison as an important figure in that development connecting Soviet operatives to the American network. Castro’s Cuba also had its hand in the mix early, even before the BPP was created they were organizing similar sabotage groups in the US in the 1962-1963 period as I recall. Subsequently various Stalinist vs. Trots vs. Maoist rivalries created a bunch of different factions that get a little convoluted to sum up, but the bottom line is that these types of groups proliferated over the late 60s into the early 70s, steering the civil rights movement increasingly from protest to confrontational tactics until you had full-blown terrorist groups like the SLA. The NWRO was a part of this development, forming a bridge between the early 60s civil rights groups and the more extreme groups of the late 60s and early 70s.

Finally, speaking of Jesse Jackson, I believe there is a lot of important data there that went under the radar because of how badly he and Walter Mondale got crushed in the 1984 campaign, and my feeling is a close review of the ‘84 campaign might be productive. Some of the far-left forces in the Jackson campaign attached themselves to Mondale to resurface under Clinton, a similar dynamic to what happened in 2004 with the fringe elements brought in by Kucinich, Kerry, etc. paving the way for Obama.


26 posted on 12/11/2012 3:14:19 AM PST by Fedora
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To: LucyT

Thanks, LucyT!


27 posted on 12/11/2012 3:14:52 AM PST by Fedora
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To: bluecat6

At some point the math is going to catch up with their ability to cover their tracks, and then it is going to get much uglier than it is now.


28 posted on 12/11/2012 3:17:25 AM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora

bflr


29 posted on 12/11/2012 4:07:49 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Fedora; Egon; Orgiveme

Ping for further study


30 posted on 12/11/2012 5:00:17 AM PST by RhoTheta ("We're from the Government, and we're here to help you ... NOT")
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To: smoothsailing; Fedora


31 posted on 12/11/2012 5:05:42 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Fedora

32 posted on 12/11/2012 5:10:47 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Fedora

Connecting some dots.
John Kerry -vvaw.
Works with/for Obama.
One degree of sep there.

Yes, history is repeating itself.


33 posted on 12/11/2012 5:43:44 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Fedora
To defeat Alinsky tactics, you must use Alinsky tactics. Same as if you are in a street fight. You can't win by the Queensbury rules if the other guy is free to cheat.

So I say, give them both barrels in the black propaganda dept.


34 posted on 12/11/2012 5:50:17 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: AlexW

Check Amazon books— “None Dare Call it Treason- John Stormer. Also, “None Dare Call It Treason-25 years Later”- John Stormer. Everyone should read these books to see the “progress” the commies have made


35 posted on 12/11/2012 6:38:48 AM PST by capt B
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To: Fedora

Cloward-Piven.


36 posted on 12/11/2012 7:00:58 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: Fedora

It worked in the Soviet Union, as other former once great empires around the world.


37 posted on 12/11/2012 8:06:36 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Fedora

You are probably right.


38 posted on 12/11/2012 9:29:38 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Fedora

Maybe we should connect the dots to rapacious banking practices and commodity swindles. You are not going to tell me that “marxists” created the debt instrument that miraculously got rated AAA then insured and sold around the world in an idiot scheme to “lessen exposure” by the blinkered expedient of assuming that risk spread out among more clients equated to a lessening of risk in toto. That just gave us a global collapse rather than a local collapse.

Let’s get some adequate target acquisition here. Those grasping, short sighted, dollar junkies were anything but “marxist”. They were capito-monopolist sociopaths in need of personal “regulation” by real Americans.


39 posted on 12/11/2012 10:17:15 AM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: aflaak

ping


40 posted on 12/11/2012 11:53:35 AM PST by r-q-tek86 ("It doesn't matter how smart you are if you don't stop and think" - Dr. Sowell)
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