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USS Monitor Civil War sailors to be buried at Arlington National Cemetery 150 years later
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Posted on 03/08/2013 1:18:58 PM PST by shove_it

Edited on 03/08/2013 1:19:43 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

ARLINGTON, Va. Two unknown crewmen found in the USS Monitor's turret will be buried at Arlington National Cemetery 150 years after the Civil War sank off the North Carolina coast. Navy Secretary Ray Mabus is scheduled to speak during Friday's ceremony, which will include Monitor kin who believe the two Union sailors are their ancestors. Sixteen sailors died when the Monitor went down in rough seas off Cape Hatteras on March 9, 1862. The two crew members' skeletons and the remains of their uniforms were found in 2002 when the ship's rusted turret was raised from the ocean floor. The Monitor made nautical history when it fought in the first battle between two ironclads. The battle with the CSS Virginia was a draw...


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Excellent vid at link. These two sailors are likely the last two warriors from the War Between The States to be buried at ANC.
1 posted on 03/08/2013 1:18:58 PM PST by shove_it
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To: shove_it

The monitor was nearly a submarine anyway. Most of it was below water, except for the turret. Which is why the Merrimack had trouble hitting it. Sending it into rough seas may have been a mistake.


2 posted on 03/08/2013 1:31:02 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: shove_it

R.I.P. true American patriots.


3 posted on 03/08/2013 1:33:31 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: shove_it

Rest In Peace ye Sailors, your Journey is over.


4 posted on 03/08/2013 1:47:01 PM PST by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“Merrimack”

CSS Virginia please. If only out of respect for the brave, confederate sailors who served on her.


5 posted on 03/08/2013 1:48:43 PM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Yes. The monitor type ships were designed for fighting in coastal waters, rivers and bays and Cape Hatteras was dangerous even for full sized sailing ships. I alwaysd wondered why they had guys in that craft anyway since they were towing it behind a bigger ship.


6 posted on 03/08/2013 2:09:06 PM PST by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: Owl558

Yes I think the Merrimack was scuttled. But the way the CSS Virginia went up and down the Missippi blowing up ships and port facilities would have done it proud.


7 posted on 03/08/2013 2:10:50 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: shove_it
Sixteen sailors died when the Monitor went down in rough seas off Cape Hatteras on March 9, 1862

Correction: The Monitor sank on December 31,1862. It fought the CSS Virginia on March 9, 1862

8 posted on 03/08/2013 2:16:11 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

thank you it was the war between the states not civil war.


9 posted on 03/08/2013 2:26:38 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: shove_it

Just a note: Back in WWII a US destroyer received "ping" off a submerged vessel and dropped depth charges on the Monitor.

10 posted on 03/08/2013 2:35:34 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Excellent addition to the thread, thanks. Did your mural get painted over?


11 posted on 03/08/2013 2:55:17 PM PST by shove_it (Long ago Huxley, Orwell and Rand warned us about 0banana's USA.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“The battle between those two primative iron ships marked the end of the world’s wooden navies”. It’s too bad, actually. It was a romantic era; whole forests sacrificed for a fleet of ships that depended on the wind, the direction of it meaning more than the number of cannons placed in the hull. The old sailing ships were sort of a dichotemy between old and new technology. The cannon itself was a catalist for new weapons that made others obsolete. The change was inevitable. The torpedo became the next catalyst, and so on.


12 posted on 03/08/2013 2:59:40 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: shove_it

mural is still there but will be painted over April 1.


13 posted on 03/08/2013 3:08:26 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: shove_it

A fitting tribute to true Americcan patriots. May they continue to RIP.


14 posted on 03/08/2013 3:11:44 PM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

When was the CSS Virginia on the Mississippi, and how did it get there?


15 posted on 03/08/2013 3:14:12 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

“When was the CSS Virginia on the Mississippi...”

I believe he means the James River and Hampton Roads.

It was the Union that fielded Monitor type vessels on the Mississippi.


16 posted on 03/08/2013 3:22:31 PM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Sherman Logan

From what I read of the Civil War, the Merrimac terrorized the Mississippi and the New England coast before it was finally confronted by the Monitor. The Mississippi was a front in the Civil war because it was easily accessed by both sides.


17 posted on 03/08/2013 3:23:37 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Sherman Logan

CSS Virginia I mean.


18 posted on 03/08/2013 3:27:24 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Uhh, not exactly. The Merrimac/Virginia never got out of the James estuary. Probably would have immediately sunk if it ha.

It did indeed terrorize the US Navy, but only for one day, handing it its worst defeat in history before Pearl Harbor. Would have done more damage, but the Monitor showed up the next day and fought her to a draw.

The New England coast may have been terrorized, but only because they were idiots who didn’t realize the M/V was if possible even less seaworthy than the Monitor. Engines, if I remember correctly, had a top speed of something like 4 knots and it took her 45 minutes or so to turn around.

The CSN engineers did amazing work with what they had, but their extremely limited resource meant they produced a major kludge.


19 posted on 03/08/2013 3:34:27 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Telepathic Intruder

It is possible you are thinking of the CSS Alabama, a commerce raider that swept the seas of US ships before being taken on and sunk off the coast of France by the USS Kearsarge.


20 posted on 03/08/2013 3:37:11 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Telepathic Intruder

The Merrimac never left Hampton Roads and other that sinking the Cumberland and the Congress on the first day it caused no further damage.


21 posted on 03/08/2013 3:40:34 PM PST by 0.E.O
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To: Sherman Logan

If my rendition of it based on reading it years ago were from a Hollywood director, you’d not be able to question it. In any case, I’m certainly partially correct. The history book that I read about the Civil War was several hundred pages long, and had pictures.


22 posted on 03/08/2013 3:46:31 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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Thanks shove_it, here’s the later, closed topic:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2994960/posts


23 posted on 03/08/2013 6:54:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: shove_it

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks shove_it.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


24 posted on 03/08/2013 6:55:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

On July 4th. 1863 after three months of siege Vicksburg surrendered to Union forces. This gave the North control of the Mississippi and cut the Confederacy in two. After this the South just ran out the clock.


25 posted on 03/08/2013 10:12:00 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

The refloated Merrimac(k) was on the James River, in Virginia.


26 posted on 03/08/2013 11:57:39 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: hondact200

It was the War of the Rebellion.


27 posted on 03/08/2013 11:58:23 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

No. Refloated Merrimac didn’t get to Mississippi, or New England. There were some wild stories in the papers. The engines, after being raised, were not up to much. Due to the weight of its iron slabs, it was hardly seaworthy.


28 posted on 03/09/2013 12:01:47 AM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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