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Forget The F-22 And F-35, Russia's New Su-35 Fighter Jet Blows Them Away
Business Insider ^ | 06/18/2013 | David Cenciotti

Posted on 06/18/2013 1:50:57 PM PDT by Carbonsteel

The Su-35 (NATO designation Flanker E), Russia’s latest version of the famous super-maneuverable multirole fighter jet has demonstrated its stunning capabilities during the first day of the 50th Paris Air Show at Le Bourget.

During its display, the 4++ generation aircraft has showcased some almost impossible manoeuvres, demonstrating unbelievable low-speed handling authority.

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1 posted on 06/18/2013 1:50:57 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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It falls in line with what this present government wants... a permanent loss of our military edge. With homos in the ranks and women in combat roles, along with weapons inferiority... they’re moving right along toward their goal.


2 posted on 06/18/2013 1:53:22 PM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: Carbonsteel

Lol. Just check out the comments at the link. Summary: nice for air shows.


3 posted on 06/18/2013 1:54:04 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Carbonsteel

BS. I’d venture that an experience Eagle driver could take him.


4 posted on 06/18/2013 1:55:31 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Carbonsteel
Forget The F-22 And F-35, Russia's New Su-35 Fighter Jet Blows Them Away

0bama's "new flexibility" most likely included providing specs and probably technical assistance to his comrades in russia.

5 posted on 06/18/2013 1:55:46 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Jesus, Please Save America!)
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“Summary: nice for air shows.”

Correct. Speed and range/TOT win jet modern dog fights.

Manuevarbility is nice, and damn handy, but going faster than the other guy (dive, straight, climb), is about 75%.


6 posted on 06/18/2013 1:56:34 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Carbonsteel

Won’t mean crap against a swarm of unmanned attack drones.


7 posted on 06/18/2013 1:57:18 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: Carbonsteel

I have to allow that the moves it can pull in a tight hairball are extremely impressive, but is it STEALTHY?

Hmm....

If you can see it, you can kill it.

And I do love it’s looks —totally gorgeous.


8 posted on 06/18/2013 1:58:01 PM PDT by gaijin
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Rules are rules, sorry....

My fave cammo scheme for that one.

9 posted on 06/18/2013 2:00:07 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Carbonsteel

Cute plane. But completely useless if it gets picked up on radar first and can’t fire.


10 posted on 06/18/2013 2:00:08 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: RockyMtnMan

Using proper jargon for today, wouldn’t that be better stated using “...unmanned ASSAULT drones?”


11 posted on 06/18/2013 2:01:33 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: RockyMtnMan

... that suddenly stop following your commands and attack your guys.

yea, you’re right. feel so much safer


12 posted on 06/18/2013 2:02:00 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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I didn't go look at the comments, but someone else already posted what I thought: it's great for an airshow. But, the days of close-in aircraft dog-fights are long gone.

Today, aircraft are vulnerable long before they are in visual range. If you see an F-22, you would have already been dead if the pilot thought you were a threat.

Unless the Su-35 pilot can detect an incoming Sidewinder or AMRAAM and out-maneuver it, it's just an expensive showpiece.

Get back to me when it's not detectable by radar and can cruise at supersonic speed.

13 posted on 06/18/2013 2:03:19 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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The Rooskies seemingly build aircraft crudely, but tough as nails (gravel or rough runways...). I wonder if this is in the same mold?


14 posted on 06/18/2013 2:03:28 PM PDT by llevrok (We are in a new Cold War. At home.)
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I see Cenciotti keeps exposing the fact that he is no expert.


15 posted on 06/18/2013 2:04:13 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: bigfootbob
Using proper jargon for today, wouldn’t that be better stated using “...unmanned ASSAULT drones?”

Undocumented pilots?

16 posted on 06/18/2013 2:04:32 PM PDT by llevrok (We are in a new Cold War. At home.)
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To: llevrok

You get it!


17 posted on 06/18/2013 2:07:21 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Jewbacca

Also 4+ gen without stealth? Sorry, that’s NOT 4+ gen.


18 posted on 06/18/2013 2:08:32 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: justlurking
But, the days of close-in aircraft dog-fights are long gone.

Depends on what the ROEs are. We've heard your argument before which is why the Phantom II was fielded without a gun.

19 posted on 06/18/2013 2:10:36 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: Carbonsteel

Sorry, but aerial battles are not fought at less than 200 mph.


20 posted on 06/18/2013 2:10:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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