Posted on 07/12/2013 3:25:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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RUSH: Get this. This is actually a very provocative piece on the Zimmerman case. It is found today in the American Spectator, one of my all-time favorite journals of opinion. It's written by a man named Daniel J. Flynn. It's about the Zimmerman case. And the headline of this piece is really good, and it's provocative itself. It gives you an indication what the story is about. "Two Males, No Men."
"Two Males, No Men." And the premise of Mr. Flynn's piece is that the real reason Trayvon Martin was shot is that we don't have any real men anymore in America. Now a series of pull quotes from the story to give you flavor for the piece. Mr. Flynn says: "The proper response to an assault by a 158-pound teenager isn’t to scream for help or grab for a gun. It is to punch back or better yet subdue and issue a spanking."
Another pull quote: "Their households lacked strong male role models; their society, even more so. Four in ten American kids enter the world without their father married to their mother. When schoolboys begin to exhibit traits natural to their sex, the energetic fellows earn the wrath of detention and Ritalin." Frankly, folks, this is becoming a more acceptable reaction to all of this ADD and ADHD stuff. And this pull quote is right on the money. "Four in ten American kids enter the world without their father married to their mother. When schoolboys begin to exhibit traits natural to their sex," which the feminists have been trying to wipe out since the late sixties and early seventies. Natural male traits were portrayed as predator, brutish, inhuman, insensitive, unfeeling, brutal, violent.
Men could not be trusted with their own children, particularly their own daughters. Men behaving as they are naturally predestined to behave has earned the wrath of detention at school and the drug Ritalin to calm them down. "Any game that highlights contact -- from dodgeball to football -- comes under attack. Primetime television celebrates the fop and makes a buffoon out of fathers (see Simpson, Homer; Everybody Loves, Raymond). Jobs relying on the physical characteristics favored in males have been outsourced to robots and foreigners. ... Civilizing men out of existence has come at great cost to civilization. Instead of men, we get feminine imitations lacking beauty. We get lost boys compensating by becoming barbarians. We get Sanford, Florida."
"They don't make men like they used to," begins Daniel J. Flynn in his piece. "One can consult a Danish study that shows plummeting testosterone levels for scientific confirmation of this. Or, one could more easily turn on any cable news network’s wall-to-wall coverage of the Zimmerman-Martin case, a tragedy involving two males fumbling in the dark on how to be men. Whatever the protagonists may be guilty of they are surely innocent of being men."
Neither one was a man.
"The six female jurors, not tasked to reach a verdict on the manhood of the central players, nevertheless know the truth of this more than other trial observers. The Venusians know the Martians better than they know themselves. And vice versa -- what do they know of x chromosomes who only x chromosomes know? On the maturity count, Trayvon Martin might reasonably plead not guilty by reason of chronology. Seventeen-year-old boys quite often act like, in the vernacular of Zimmerman, 'f-ing punks.' Most grow out of it, but Mr. Martin unfortunately will not get that chance. Rarely, in spite of their exaggerated masculine posturing, do teenage boys behave as mature males.
"Martin’s Twitter feed reads as a parody of poor grammar and an even more impoverished vocabulary. There, he’s a 'No Limit N-gga,' girls he knows are 'bitches' and 'hoes,' and the primary extracurricular activity he immerses himself in is marijuana. The gold-teeth smile, the tattoos, the ten-day suspension from school, and all the rest appear as pathetic attempts to assert his virility. Yet, as his supporters point out, Trayvon also liked Skittles and Chuck E. Cheese’s. The presentation that Trayvon affected and the Trayvon that his supporters present are, like so many making the journey from adolescence to adulthood, at war internally.
"George Zimmerman, in contrast, projects a courtroom image of a meek pudgeball who wouldn’t (couldn’t?) hurt a fly -- and not in a Norman Bates way. Perhaps this is the effect that his lawyers intended. But it jibes with what we know. According to one unidentified witness, Zimmerman endured a domineering mother’s frequent beatings and a docile father who failed to stick up for his kids. His mixed-martial arts instructor described him as 'physically soft,' a student who lacked athleticism and 'didn’t know how to really effectively punch.'"
May I interrupt myself here for a moment? I have to make an observation. I just noticed it again today. Every time you've seen Zimmerman seated in the courtroom, what have you thought? What has your reaction been to Zimmerman seated there? Do you know that the lawyers are counseling him to sit that way? Show no emotion whatsoever. Don't even appear to be engaged in any of this. Don't crack a smile. Don't make any facial expressions. Just stare straight ahead. Don't make eye contact with anybody.
Now, there are jury consultants on this case, and the lawyers telling Zimmerman, look, you gotta behave in a certain way. We got six jurors. They're all women, and we've got a TV camera in here. And Mr. Flynn may have a point. It may well be that the sum total of the advice Zimmerman's getting adds up to "Don't look like a man. Look like the Pillsbury Doughboy in there. Look like you couldn't hurt a flea. Look like you're harmless. Look like you're a schlub, because anything else may offend the jurors. Anything else may offend the media watching who would then issue commentary. Anything else might frighten and off put."
Look at me. I am told that just speaking like this frightens 24-year-old women. And probably 23- and 22-year-old women. Being forceful, being opinionated. Let me give you another example. I showed up, I appeared on The Five on Fox on Tuesday afternoon. And as you know, I affectionately refer to Andrea Tantaros as Andrea Tarantula. Now, some in the audience I'm sure got it and understood the joke. But I know full well that a huge number of people have no idea why in the world I would call her Andrea Tarantula.
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So I knew it was coming. I knew I was gonna get the question when I learned that she was on the show that day. And, sure enough, she asked me. And in the question that she asked, she said (paraphrasing), "Now, Bob Beckel says I've got great legs, but I've only got two of them. I don't have eight." So it was assumed by some that I was making a comment about her legs when I was talking about Andrea Tarantula. But in answering her question I said, "Andrea, I'll be glad to answer it, but to a number of people the answer is going to be entirely sexist, because, you see, I come from an era long ago, where a man could be a man and stereotypical humor didn't offend anybody."
I said, "Andrea, what is a tarantula? A spider. What do spiders do? Well, in the case of the black widow spider, what do they do? After mating with the male, they kill the male. Right?" I said, "Andrea, you come off to me as a dominant, confident, in-control, take-no-prisoners persona." So she ended up being complimented by it, but was unable to get there just by my calling her a spider, a tarantula. I chose tarantula because it goes with Tantaros, which is her real last name.
But I know that even telling you why I call her -- do you realize, of all the liberal caves and enclaves where they have people in their pajamas listening to this program, do you realize how many of them are just outraged right now that I would even think this way? But there is, and this is what Mr. Flynn's point is. There aren't any men anymore. Being a man is a crime. Being a man is something that the powerful institutions in the country are trying to weed out of our culture. Because it's dangerous, it's predatory, it's brutish, it's barbaric. And this is a direct descendant from the feminist movement.
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RUSH: Yeah. Andrea Tantaros. I said, "Tontaros." It's Tantaros. Tarantula, Tantaros, Tantaros, "Hi-ho, Silver!" It doesn't matter. Everybody knows who I'm talking about.
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RUSH: By the way, folks, I made mention yesterday that the interview in the next issue of the Limbaugh Letter is Conrad Black about his book. It's Flight of the Eagle: The Grand Strategies That Brought America from Colonial Dependence to World Leadership. The previous issue interview was Dr. Helen Smith, and I read this piece today by the guy in the American Spectator by Matthew Flynn on what's wrong in our culture vis-a-vis men. Helen Smith is Ph.D. She's from Knoxville, Tennessee, and she's got a book, too.
Men on Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream -- and Why It Matters, and it is excellent. I'll tell you, this is something that more and more people need to seriously think about, the whole concept of "manly" is being erased from our culture. That's been going on for quite a while. It has serious, serious consequences, and we're living them. So her book is Men on Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream -- and Why It Matters, by Dr. Helen Smith.
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"George Zimmerman . . . projects a courtroom image of a meek pudgeball who wouldn’t (couldn’t?) hurt a fly -- and not in a Norman Bates way. Perhaps this is the effect that his lawyers intended. But it jibes with what we know. According to one unidentified witness, Zimmerman endured a domineering mother’s frequent beatings and a docile father who failed to stick up for his kids. His mixed-martial arts instructor described him as 'physically soft,' a student who lacked athleticism and 'didn’t know how to really effectively punch.'"
I have a vivid memory from high school: a short, compact and somewhat athletic boy harried, bullied, punched a boy of his own age who stood a head taller and would have outweighed him even if he hadn’t been taller.“It isn’t the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog.”
Treyvon Martin was loaded with fight. He had no concept of manliness apart from making sure he was feared. George Zimmerman’s notion of manliness was “meekness, gentleness, and self control.” It is impossible to envision a tough person such as a former cop, let’s say, who was armed and was somehow surprised by Treyvon Martin allowing himself to be taken down into a "ground and pound” predicament. He, nay especially she, would if there was any doubt draw and threaten Treyvon Martin with the weapon - and if that didn’t give him pause, one - or if in doubt, two or more - shots from that gun would. But it almost certainly wouldn’t get to the point of actually shooting because Treyvon Martin would have been sufficiently warned to come to terms with his inability to dominate and intimidate, at least for the moment.
Had I been summing up for the jury, I would appeal to the parental experience of the jurors. I would have proved, as conclusively and probably even more thoroughly, that Trevon Martin was guilty of aggravated assault and battery. And I would have said that every mother knows and worries about bullies. And every mother, and especially every father worthy of the name would be humiliated if their child acted as a bully in the presence of the parent of the child being bullied. That mother, that father, would make sure that the behavior ended instantly. They would hold nothing back in their condemnation, and if need be they would enlist help to stop the abuse. That abuse would stop.
During the sequence of cries by Zimmerman for help - and there is no question that it was Zimmerman crying out, no matter how many people, of whatever credentials, might say otherwise - John Good came on the scene, saw the “MMA style” beating going on, and told them both to stop. Realistically, the victim of a “ground and pound” beating who hadn’t succeeded in extricating himself by then was in no position to “stop.” So in fact John Good told Treyvon Martin to stop. If Martin had heeded that admonition from an adult third party, he would be alive today (albeit in jail for the assault). If Tracy Martin had been there instead of John Good, and if he had ordered Trayvon to stop, you can be pretty sure - if only because of the physical size of Tracy Martin - that he would have stopped. But Tracy Martin was otherwise engaged, and the mother who raised him lived in a different town and naturally wasn’t around.
So, Treyvon Martin was in mortal need of parental supervision and he did not have it. And because he was headstrong, because he was willfully, violently, maliciously assaulting and battering George Zimmerman, he finally did something which crossed a line in George Zimmerman’s mind. As to what it was, we have only a potentially self-serving statement of one man, but it is controverted by no evidence. But that isn’t really important. After enduring an excruciating beating and crying for help for forty seconds or more, finally George Zimmerman resorted to the only option he had. In that extremity of fear George Zimmerman drew his weapon, and in less time than it takes to tell it he fired.
Unlike fictional accounts and in movies, a bullet is not magic, it is only a piece of metal. If it strikes a person anywhere besides the brain or spinal cord - even in the heart - the victim will retain volition and the ability to move for a quarter of a minute. In many places, the injury may disable only a limited functionality of the gunshot victim. So the typical recommendation for the use of a firearm is that a single shot is no guarantee that the fight is over. And George Zimmerman did not assume that the fight was certainly over; he exerted himself to gain physical control of Trayvon Martin on the assumption that he might continue to fight. But with the gun in his hand, pointed at Trayvon, he did not fire again. Perhaps the policeman who engaged in CPR to revive Trayvon was more even more heroic than the forbearance of George Zimmerman in not firing a second shot in accordance with training - but that decision did at least as much to allow for hope of the revival of Trayvon Martin.
And the only conclusion the prosecution can draw is that George Zimmerman is a vicious mad dog.
I’m 72, and I never leave the house without it!
You might be surprised, but I have found, through reading threads here on F.R., that about 50% of Freepers have limited use for Network TV, or don't watch it at all.
Amen Brother, amen. You're obviously a hopeless romantic..., as I am. ;^)
Well.... look at it this way.
By tomorrow, None of us will remember this article or the author’s name.
BUT.... there are likely hundreds of people here on F.R. that will not forget you, Leni.
Trayvon knew how to size up an opponent for a fist fight. He saw GZ as nothing more than an easy beat-down. I don’t think it occurred to him that George might be armed because he wasn’t used to being around anyone that could pass a background check.
Even though we would like for our heroes to be perfect, they aren’t.
Neither do they have ‘superpowers’. Just like any other talk show host, It isn’t easy to come up with great material every single day. Also, you can’t just focus on one facet of one issue. You have to ‘diversify’ some to generate some interest.
As they say in Hellyweird, the only bad publicity is no publicity.
on here, FR, you got that comment?
The world needs more hopeless romantics!
Trey was a hater. George was a lover. The world is now baffled by this because it is under the power of the lord of hate. Meekness is power-under-control. It's like the Clydesdale horses that powerfully pull the Budweiser wagon without taking it lickety split down the street and turning it over. It's like a surgeon with a scalpel that could turn the patient into mincemeat, carefully cutting to get at the diseased area with as little and as easily healed damage as possible.
The jury could do anything. It might bow to Satan's lies or it might see the grand love of God or might try to split the difference. Certainly this world is more and more full of hate. God lets it happen for a reason, though. Going to pot is sometimes the only thing that can alert a dulled humanity to a problem.
Z made the masculine effort to care for and protect his community, to risk danger to dissuade danger. He tried to deal with the fight as be could, resorting to weapons only when his assailant was about to. Soft & fat perhaps, he still made the effort even if of a background devoid of better guidance. He could have just stayed in the truck, but he didn’t - knowing a cold wet night held possible danger.
Nice lengthy narrative.
I differ with you on George’s weakness. The sucker punch to the nose, to someone standing on wet grass in the rain could easily knock a very tough ‘cop’ on his back.
I disagree with the DEFENSE CLAIM (though I know why they had to do it) that Trayvon decided to go back and teach George a lesson. Years of experience tell me that a young black male, who had escaped being nabbed by the cops or a neighborhood watch dude, who made it to the back yard of the place he was staying, who was planning to watch a BALL GAME on TV at the house, who may have had drugs he just got, or in the house, or was high as a kite, HE DARN WELL WOULDN’T LEAVE. He’d lost Zimmerman, for all he knew Zimmerman was long gone.
There had to be a reason so important, that Trayvon left the safety of the residence to go back to the original spot where George had first spotted him ‘peering into windows’, a spot where he hid or lost something in the bushes.
He gets there and is searching, but here comes Zimmerman back up the sidewalk behind the houses on the way back to his vehicle. Trayvon is worried he called the cops, or is calling the cops, or will do so as soon as he sees Trayvon or hears him. Either way, Trayvon is screwed. Whatever was so important for him to go back and get, it would likely also get him arrested. He might get tied in with the home invasion there at the complex. The one where only the other thug got caught.
Trayvon knew if he got in trouble again, he would get kicked out of Brandy’s townhouse. Trayvon had to do something to ‘solve’ this problem, and the rest is history.
Who would you rather be around... George or Treyvon? That question ought to be asked of every sane person. Maybe George could have spoken with Treyvon upon the initial encounter to defuse some potential tension, but failing to do that hardly makes him a wicked killer. Treyvon flew off the handle. George stayed on the handle even when many would have come off. This whole thing is a drama between hate (from Satan) and love (from God). I am of course praying that God’s side wins in the immediate case for George, but God can take strategic losses in pursuit of greater wins. Now the Tea Party would have its “Free George” like the leftist losers have their “Free Mumai” [sp?]. Except it’s more than just George they would want to free. It’s the spirit that moved George.
Mumia! Now I remember it. Anyhow, “Free George’s spirit.” Kind of ironic name coincidence given that the problem in 1776 was a King George... but Zimmerman is a far better George than that King ever was. And also George Washington, don’t forget....
For whatever exact details... Treyvon freaked out at George. For motives that were far less than noble.
Yes, but why, my FRiend, would he leave his yard, leave his drugs, leave the just about to start GAME on TV that he had been planning on watching for days, after Rachel, his only longtime friend, told him to stay there and stay out of trouble ?????
Just to go back, in the dark, in the RAIN, to chase down a stranger that had probably left the vicinity ? Trayvon couldn't tell if Zimmerman was still around from his back yard. HE WAS HOME SAFE.
What I am trying to get at is, the 'concept' that Trayvon went back to find Zimmerman just to start a fist fight is so improbable that it's ridiculous, considering the known circumstances.
Trayvon might have been (was) a thug (criminal) but he wasn't stupid. There had to be a DARN GOOD REASON for him to back to the spot where George first spotted Trayvon.
The reason the Defense chose the Trayvon as Knockout King option is that they were kept from bringing up evidence that proved Trayvon was a known criminal, that he was linked to the break-ins at the housing complex, that he was casing or breaking into a house that night.
Since they couldn't show that evidence, they had to go with the drugged gangsta revenge attack theory.
This trial wasn't about finding the truth. It was about hiding the truth.
Boiled it all down to three short sentences.
Excellent, my FRiend. Short and concise.
Mr. Flynn is a fool.
If there was something there, I’d think the police would have found it. They did report finding a “slim jim” in the bushes, but those are made for breaking into cars and would be useless if he was trying to break into a house.
“George stayed on the handle even when many would have come off.”
And the prosecution tried to spin that as a sign of simmering malice.
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