FBI seizes artifacts from Indiana collector, age 91, who says they’re legal

Washington Times ^ | Apr 3, 2014 | Cheryl K. Chumley

[KeyLargo]

The FBI has swooped into an elderly man

[devolve]

- Reminisent of when the BJ Clintons looting/stealing priceless White House art, silver, Frederic Remington sculpture and antique furniture when they finally left the White House…..

[Red_Devil 232]

Federal agents have descended on a compound Why is a private home and joining land called a compound?

[jayrunner]

In the years since 9/11, the FBI has dug up two Michigan horse ranches to look for Jimmy Hoffa’s remains. They acted on tips from Mafia inmates with life sentences. Hey, it gets boring in prison, so why not send the FBIees on a wild goose chase.

Now they raid a house and seize Indian artifacts! Hey guys, isn’t there anything more important for you to be doing?

What about investing Harry Reid’s business cronies and dealings? What about testing Pelosi to determine if she’s still fit to hold office? Did anyone see her on Thursday morning Congressional channel. She forgot what she was saying, stuttered, got mixed up and repeated herself many times.

Hey FBI what about checking out multiple voters (those who voted more than one time)?

Leave the poor guy alone!

[Marcella]

"BINGO ►► Most recently Dr Miller developed the technology to locate any transmitter through triangulation after the beacon has failed. This technology would be very useful say if an airplane went down and was unable to be located. ◄◄"

I think you are right, this has to do with the lost plane. They also took two tall antennae down. I would bet the NSA had him as a primary location all the time for years to find out what he was doing with everything since he worked on the atomic bomb and satellites. They would know he had this technology to find black boxes after they stopped emitting sound. Since he knew how to do it, he was likely sending email to a close friend or whomever, and the NSA got that and sent the FBI to get his stuff relating to that and the artifacts aren't their purpose for being there.

If you ever had a responsible position with the federal government, you will never lose them.

For me, I am worried since in my compound little townhouse I have teapots/cups from numerous countries where I have been. Been collecting those for many years. I have an antique Mote spoon made in the middle 1600s to mid 1700s from England. Bought it legally from underground silver vault shop in the middle of London, went through customs, but maybe some FBI man wants a Mote spoon? It was the first way to get tea leaves out of a cup of tea as there were no tea strainers then.

If any of you have anything from another country, are you now suspect for having it? This is ridiculous of course that the FBI would be interested in tea pots/cups/Mote spoons, but who would have thought a man of 91 would have his compound house surrounded?

What's in your compound?

[reformedliberal]

We traveled to Papua New Guinea 40 years ago. We have carved walking sticks and *watchers*, which are wicker shield-shaped wall pieces featuring faces made from turtle shells and human hair (likely that of the artisan) with shell eyes. They were made to guard homes from vengeful ghosts.

Visited Tonga where, back then, huge 12’x20’ tapas, including wedding tapas (very soft and thick), were available in the marketplace for $10US. These have been on display in our home since then, seen by many, many people.

It is difficult today to find similar items of the same quality. In New Zealand, today, the tapas are being “re-collected” by Maoris and are in demand for commercial bar/restaurant decor.

We also have carved ivory tourist pieces from China, purchased in Fiji. The identical pieces were offered years ago on eBay for $1500-$3k. Today, they are always labeled *bone*, even dating from the 1970s and the prices are very low.

The Oceanic stuff is also difficult to sell directly, although some galleries handle them.

Who kept bills of sale from back then? There were no bills of sale at the native villages on the Sepik. My husband dealt directly with the men in the “men’s hut”. There was only a “number one price”.

We are getting ready to downsize and I may just pack them all up when we move and not display them again.

[Marcella]

“I may just pack them all up when we move and not display them again.”

I wouldn't display the ivory pieces. I have a Chinese tea set in a wicker box holder that I bought in mainland China. Have various pieces I won't describe, from Hong Kong. They make gold pieces right there in shops. I always declared everything I had bought when I got to the states. I kept the sales slips for that accounting, but of course I don't have them now.

One time I told the US customs guy as soon as I was in front of him that I had overbought so would have to pay duty and here were all my sales slips. He crossed off books and antiques, said they weren't counted for duty and I didn't have to pay any duty. I was an open book with customs people. People who would try to sneak something in, are very likely to get caught and I wasn't going to be one of them.

Going into England one time, I got a cranky guy who wanted to know what was in the rolling bag I had. He pissed me off to question I might have something illegal in there. Told him, “CANNED MEXICAN FOOD”. My son lived there and naturally as a Texan, he got no Texas type Mexican food so I always carried him some - nothing fresh, all canned and that is legal. So, cranky guy went through my canned Mexican food. When you go into England, you have to put down where you are staying and when you are leaving. They know exactly where you are when you are there and you better not be there after the date you say you are leaving.

[LucyT]

►►Most recently Dr Miller developed the technology to locate any transmitter through triangulation after the beacon has failed. This technology would be very useful say if an airplane went down and was unable to be located.◄◄

Dr. Miller has offered tours of his mini museum for many years which contained relics from his travels which was never of issue until recently. I googled FBI and artifact seizure and other than the raid on Dr. Millers home and some stories of soldiers stealing Iraqi artifacts, there was very little. It does not seem to be a usual activity for the FBI.

Looking at the photo of Dr. Miller's home it is very obvious that he installed several 40'-50' antenna towers on his property which is located out in the middle of nowhere. The FBI (or some agency) set up containment/quarantine tents all over his property and there is no identification of any particular government agencies on the vehicles on his property. I was able to locate video showing those towers being removed which would fall under the definition of artifact but weren't mentioned by reporters.

The fact that the the news doesn't mention that this man was very prominent in the development of nuclear weapons, space science, groundbreaking transponder technology, spectral analysis or the sole heir to his famous brothers research on the origins of life is wherein the truth lies.

I would be surprised if this man lives long enough to tell the real story. ~ Anonymous Source

Check out # 10, 14, 19, 24.

Thanks, WildHighlander57.

[whodathunkit]

I wonder how many relics provide evidence that the ‘Native Americans’ were not the first to populate the Americas?

[Cicero]

Hmm. And this happens right after that crazy Western Journalism story claiming that the missing plane had been located at a U.S. military base in the Pacific.

I found that very difficult to believe. But here we are back in the territory of things that make you go Hmmmm.

[bert]

A better course is a ceontrolled program on ebay to sell your stuff.

Ebay is helping us downsize a cby sellin the stuff no longer needed and unwanted by the kids. Take it easy, study Eby..... it’s pretty easy, relax and enjoy the selling

PS... Thai temple rubbings are a dime a dozen

[KeyLargo]

“Compound”.

That’s how the demonization begins.

I remember when I first saw photos of Randy Weaver’s “compound”. It was a freakin’ plywood cabin.

Waco? Wood frame buildings.

Just like this “rural compound”. It’s a country home.”

Good that you caught that. I thought the same thing when I first read the propaganda from the Obama media group.

[bgill]

Most recently Dr Miller developed the technology to locate any transmitter through triangulation after the beacon has failed. This technology would be very useful say if an airplane went down and was unable to be located.

Ding, ding. We have a winner!

[bgill]

Nothing happened in Waco. Waco just happened to be the closest sizeable city which could house all the reporters. More stupid reporter tricks.

[KeyLargo]

"I wonder how many relics provide evidence that the ‘Native Americans’ were not the first to populate the Americas?"

The fake Indians Oscar DeCorti and Elizabeth Warren are crying now for their ancestors...

[bgill]

I think you are right, this has to do with the lost plane. They also took two tall antennae down.

Exactly. I must have slept through 4th grade history class when they discussed Indians having antennas.

[moose07]

Just for the record:
“When you go into England, you have to put down where you are staying and when you are leaving. They know exactly where you are when you are there and you better not be there after the date you say you are leaving. ”

The U.S. is exactly the same in this respect.
The Airport (LAX) failed to take my green visa card as I left , some years ago.
The following year I was subjected to the most pathetic ‘interview’ in history.
They had ‘proof’ I had been in the country for a whole year...having just arrived on a 747.

[Rodamala]

...I have teapots/cups from numerous countries where I have been. Been collecting those for many years.

"Never overlook an opportunity to keep yer big mouth shut."

I have paper plates and a spork from KFC to eat with... as my "tea set" was lost in a tragic boating accident.

[Marcella]

“Never overlook an opportunity to keep yer big mouth shut.”

My post was facetious as I knew no one would be interested in tea sets.

[apoliticalone]

““Compound”.

That’s how the demonization begins.”

Amen to that. It is covered in their AP style / play book. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AP_Stylebook to provide the most effective propaganda.

The media is there to hype and divide society, not report facts. The more they succeed at hype and divide the more they profit. Hollywood works at it too and dumbs us down from a more subtle angle.

[apoliticalone]

“I hope he sues, wins a massive settlement,”

Have you noticed how liability because of abuse by “public servants” always comes back to bite the average taxpayers. It should come back to bite those involved.

BTW if you see any black fully luxurized and equipped $80K Suburbans in the driveway, they likely belong to the public servants. What ever happened to their $25K Fords?