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Trump Loses Zero Ground After Fox’s Unfair, Unbalanced Attack In Debate
Breitbart ^ | August 7, 2015 | by Alex Swoyer

Posted on 08/09/2015 7:59:39 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

CLEVELAND, Ohio: A Wall Street Journal report suggests that despite critics’ opinions predicting GOP frontrunner Donald Trump’s poll numbers would fall, two early – though unscientific – polls predict that may be wrong.

“Time Magazine found that Mr. Trump took 47% of nearly 55,000 votes. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) of Florida was in second place with just 10%. The Drudge Report’s poll found more than half of nearly 362,000 voters favored Mr. Trump, well above everyone else,” the Wall Street Journal noted.

After Frank Luntz’s made his opinion on Trump’s performance suggesting “tonight his act wore thin,” conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh stood up for Trump, and instead went after Fox News’ performance.

“I have never seen this kind of public backlash against Fox News personalities since the network launched in 1997,” the radio legend stated.

Even Bloomberg Politics went after Fox News host Megyn Kelly for her questioning comparing it to “something Rachel Maddow would ask.”

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


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To: Artcore

I don’t like Trump because Trump isn’t a conservative. If you want to waste your vote on a pathetic loser instead of voting for a solid conservative, then go right ahead.

Standing up and defending Trump against Fox News’ hit job is one thing, but that doesn’t make the Donald conservative.

Anyone that would cast a vote for Trump over Cruz is either ignorant or a coward (probably both).


21 posted on 08/09/2015 8:23:56 AM PDT by parksstp (Cruz it or lose it. Ahead with Ted. 2016)
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To: COUNTrecount

So if you are against Trump you’re a RINO? The only “R”epublican “i”n “n”ame “o”nly on that stage the other night was Trump.


22 posted on 08/09/2015 8:24:08 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: Political Junkie Too

LOL


23 posted on 08/09/2015 8:24:59 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: COUNTrecount

The GOP’s Trump problem has happened because the GOP lied and back stabbed their voters. They lied about stopping Obamacare and then funded it. They lied about stopping Obama’s amnesty and then funded it. They refuse to secure the border. They gave Obama a way to get his Iran deal through.


24 posted on 08/09/2015 8:25:03 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: grania

Shouldn’t we Constitutional Conservatives stop being the abused wife

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Yes, absolutely yes. The GOP has failed to produce. Why should we continue buying a defective product? Time to look for another brand that can meet our needs.


25 posted on 08/09/2015 8:25:27 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Political Junkie Too

Thanks for the great image idea :-)

26 posted on 08/09/2015 8:27:00 AM PDT by Bobalu (If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
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To: parksstp
Why Trump is a conservative
  1. Pro life since at least 2011, wanted to ban partial birth abortion as far back as 2000.
  2. Pro Traditional marriage. "Gay rights is not my thing."
  3. Pro capital punishment "Capital punishment isn't uncivilized; murderers living is"
  4. Hold Judges accountable
  5. Opposes "Common core is a diaster" Teach citizenship, quit "dumbing down".
  6. Anti education unions (2000)
  7. For school choice
  8. "Climate Change is a hoax"
  9. "No Cap-and-Tax"
  10. For drilling our own.
  11. On Environment "GOod development enhances the environment"
  12. Stressed the importance of a strong family & culture of life (2015)
  13. Supports Israel
  14. Opposes Iran deal and letting Iran obtain the bomb.
  15. Wants to crush ISIS quickly.
  16. Wants a military so strong no one will challenge us.
  17. Against unbalanced trade deals that kill American jobs.
  18. Against warrantless government surveilance of citizens.
  19. Is against having a high national debt. Warns that $24T is a point of no return.
  20. Againt gun control
  21. For assault weapon ban but says the AR-15 shouldn't be considered an assault weapon.
  22. Wants to repeal Obamacare and replace it with market driven polices and increased competition among insurance companies.
  23. Wants to increase military spending.
  24. Will close the border to illegals
  25. Will send the criminals and sponges back.
  26. Will deport all illegals but will let the hard working ones go through the legal process to come back.
  27. Against Anchor babies
  28. Knows unemployment is much higher than official stats.
  29. Will bring jobs back through better trade negotiation.
  30. Attended military academy and Wharton Business School.
  31. Stood up for Birthers and challenged Obama on his fraud.
  32. Believes USA is "the greates force for freedom the world has ever known"
  33. Wants to honor commitments on Social Security and Medicare, which we can afford to do if he gets the economy going full steam.
  34. Wants to reduce the fraud in disability and other programs.
  35. Against marriage penalties in tax code.
  36. Wants to reduce income taxes and eliminate corporate tax.
  37. Wants to rebuld our infrastructure.
  38. Wants to apply welfare-to-work to 76 other welfare programs (2011)
  39. Doesn't have time for political correctness.
  40. Not afraid to call out either party or both when they are wrong.
  41. Not a puppet to campaign donators.
Source for most of the above and the image below...OnTheIssues.com
27 posted on 08/09/2015 8:27:18 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: dowcaet; Despot of the Delta

See this poll posted 08/06 by Despot of the Delta. Note the Dem and Ind %’s on page 5 (pdf page 5).

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3321347/posts?page=24#24


28 posted on 08/09/2015 8:28:13 AM PDT by matthew fuller (When do the minarets and outhouse moon go up on the White Mosque?)
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To: Bobalu

Um No,

I’m fairly certain Cruz is a big enough adult to handle the MSM on his own without the Chumpster.

Name one time where the MSM has gotten the better of Ted Cruz?

Like Reagan, Cruz learned a long time ago how to by-pass the media and get the message to the people.

I would have love seeing the moderators try to assault Cruz because he would have eaten them for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. That’s precisely why they chose to ignore him for lengthy amounts of time, they know their no match for him. And the people watching on TV would have realized that as well.


29 posted on 08/09/2015 8:29:07 AM PDT by parksstp (Cruz it or lose it. Ahead with Ted. 2016)
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To: LS

You’ve got a good sense of polls but the largest ‘brand’ polls are contracted or subscribed to. Like big accounting firms they have an inherent conflict of interest. Also some ‘brand’ polls are cheap and because they are cheap they are misleading yet rely on their brand name, e.g. Gallup.

So expect to see some wild results of polling this week.

The only thing the mercenary polls have yet to master is the coordination. Many of them ‘wait and see’ what others are making public and then they adjust their bias so as to not appear too obvious.

Some reputable polling operations have scientifically valid sampling plans but the nonresponse and hangup rates today are so high (>90%) that there’s no way to tell with any degree of accuracy what the true picture might look like. Yet, polls are reported with a margin of error that completely ignores the nonreponse rates!

The way around the dilemma of such high nonresponse is to perform longitudinal and time series analysis on new samples drawn according to the same scientifically valid sampling plan. But that takes several weeks and perhaps months. This weaknesses leave the field open to propaganda tools in attempting to shape (brainwash) public opinion. The good news is the internet has some effect on public awareness to the deception.

In the past a great way way to gauge public sentiment in elections is the old-fashioned way, a visit to the local barber or beauty salon. Today it’s a mix of social media, comments left on news media sites and talk radio. But one must beware of some social media. For example, Twitter has robot apps that can make a small group of 7 or 8 people appear to be as hundreds. Facebook comments are less prone to robot entries.


30 posted on 08/09/2015 8:29:51 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: parksstp

you might want to have a little chat with Cruz and Palin. Seems they didn’t get your memo.


31 posted on 08/09/2015 8:30:08 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: DannyTN

I refuse to be lectured by someone that thinks Citizens United was a bad decision.

Take your spinning points somewhere else.


32 posted on 08/09/2015 8:30:20 AM PDT by parksstp (Cruz it or lose it. Ahead with Ted. 2016)
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To: COUNTrecount

My prediction was apparently correct. I posted on this last night,

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3322264/posts

post 39:

Watch and see, the debate may not have gone as well as many of us would have liked, the moderators were far from fair, and did everything they could to bring Trump down, and he will still come out ahead, watch the polls next week and see.

end quote

Every time they attack Trump he comes out with more support. The debate was nothing more than an attack Trump party. Kelly was just on Media Buzz defending herself, she did ok but it was clear it was an all out attack on Trump, nothing more. She claimed they were just trying to give the candidates a chance to defend their own weak points...yeah right...

Brett Baer is on right now saying they didn’t know who would or would not raise their hand...BULL...they knew quite well Trump was the only one likely to run 3rd party, and he is not the one who suggested it. He has not ruled it out, but it was never his idea. I think he’s right. The establishment is doing all they can to knock him out of the race, and it’s very unlikely he will get the nomination, even if popular opinion is on his side. They want Bush and will stop at nothing to get it. If Bush does get the nod, expect a 3rd party run.

Thing is, Trump was honest about it. Who else would have done that?

OK yeah I’m rambling all over the place now but I’m trying to get some of the people on here to realize there is a good possibility Trump might end up running 3rd party if the establishment keeps up their attempt at bulldozing him right out of the Republican ticket. He won’t back down, they should know that. It seems by now they should realize the consistent attacks only get him more support.

If Trump does run 3rd party, we need to start seriously considering that possibility, and we need to realize he can do it, if he gets enough support. Why? He’s pulling voters from everywhere because Republicans are not the only ones sick of the status quo in DC. No matter what party they usually support, people are sick of politicians lying to them to get elected then turning their backs on the people and going to work for corporate donors and special interest groups. Trump is saying what they have been thinking for a long time. People like that...

That’s why his poll numbers are constantly rising, it’s not just Republicans taking notice..

The “debate” was totally unfair, and not only to Trump. Cruz was ignored for almost an hour. I’m not surprised at all Trump seems to be still getting good poll numbers. That’s what has always happened every time he’s been attacked.


33 posted on 08/09/2015 8:30:29 AM PDT by Paleo Pete (Why am I out here to view the wildlife, the animals live in town!)
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To: Bobalu
I’d hazard a guess that 90% of Freepers support Cruz and Trump, in that order...I know I do.

Right on. Your assessment is perfect. Trump wants the conversation be on point and that is to save America from the pit it is now in. We are so close to being a communists dictatorship it is unbelievable.

34 posted on 08/09/2015 8:31:35 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: parksstp
I refuse to be lectured by someone that thinks Citizens United was a bad decision.

What are you talking about? I don't think I've expressed an opinion on Citizens United.

35 posted on 08/09/2015 8:32:28 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: COUNTrecount

I predict Donald surges in the polls coming out next week. Funny we are not being inundated with post debate polling results by now.


36 posted on 08/09/2015 8:32:44 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

That’s ridiculous. The debate (or whatever it was) was extremely informative and engaging. In fact, riveting. Everyone was hit hard. Trump was hit hardest. So what? Can’t he take it? He hits harder than anyone.

Fox must have done something right because we’re still talking about it. Fox is not ideologically conservative; they have journalists and personalities from across the political spectrum, from Giraldo to Hannity. That’s what makes them unique among the networks.

It may be that Megan Kelly asked Trump a question from a left-wing POV (quotes about women), but she also asked him a tough right-wing questions about his abortion flip-flops, including partial-birth abortion.


37 posted on 08/09/2015 8:32:50 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: parksstp

Cruz is great!

But it’s to his advantage that Trump is taking the heat right now.

Cruz needs to run with a super-wealthy Bull-In-A-China-Shop at this time though...IMO

If Cruz stands alone he will lose funding, Trump Don’t need no steenkin funding! :-)


38 posted on 08/09/2015 8:33:01 AM PDT by Bobalu (If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
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To: parksstp

He may not be a conservative but he sure ain’t a loser. I’ve seen his house which is located on the lovely bones of Bonwit Teller and a loser couldn’t possibly afford those digs.


39 posted on 08/09/2015 8:33:41 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Hostage
Absolutely agree on word of mouth.

I am wondering, though: the debate/Trump-Kelly fight was Thursday night, yet we still don't have a "real" post debate poll. Could be going full Conspiracytard here, but . . . are they deliberately squelching some polls that look good for Trump?

We learned in 08 and 12 that the polls are darned accurate, most of the time. However, I also know from historical research that in WW II the Brits infiltrated Field, Gallup, and the other polling orgs with the intent of shifting public opinion about the war. They would delay polls damaging to their side, rig other polls. Obviously, it didn't work.

40 posted on 08/09/2015 8:36:43 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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