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'It's become us versus them': Beaverton families face thousands in fines from HOA board, little recourse
KGW.com ^ | March 20, 2024 | Evan Watson

Posted on 03/27/2024 5:32:33 AM PDT by Twotone

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1 posted on 03/27/2024 5:32:33 AM PDT by Twotone
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2 posted on 03/27/2024 5:34:30 AM PDT by Twotone (We have to stop punishing ourselves for considering things that once seemed crazy. - B. Weinstein)
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To: Twotone

This is the exact reason I told our Real Estate agent: NO HOAs...................


3 posted on 03/27/2024 5:39:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Home Owner Associations!
Breeding grounds for sociopathic control freaks and corrupt politicians.


4 posted on 03/27/2024 5:43:50 AM PDT by sjmjax
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To: Twotone
Cozy little deal that 3 person HOA has going. They can change the by-laws on a whim? Without notice or a vote by the residents?

Totalitarian commies!

5 posted on 03/27/2024 5:43:55 AM PDT by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: Twotone

There’s a way to deal with people like this.

Quietly and late at night.

L


6 posted on 03/27/2024 5:46:12 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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We moved to an older neighborhood 10 years ago that has no HOA, but it’s a nice area and people are fixing up the older homes (like we did to ours) or at least maintaining them well. We have large lots so you can store RVs and trailers off-street, and no-one seems to mind.

In our old neighborhood, you would get a letter if you left your trailer out overnight. I swear the guy must have been patrolling at 3am.


7 posted on 03/27/2024 5:46:47 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Red Badger
I’ve seen this from both sides. When I purchased a home a few years ago I originally wanted nothing to do with HOAs, but after six months of searching I noticed that I could see enormous differences in adjoining neighborhoods with and without HOAs. The ones without HOAs looked like suburban ghettos. The most common characteristics were the number of cars parked all over the streets and on front lawns, along with campers, utility trailers and work trucks parked all over the streets.

I ended up buying a home under ideal circumstances. It has a low-key, benign HOA with very few rules that are all reasonable. And the cost is very low because the HOA has hardly any common area maintenance responsibilities.

8 posted on 03/27/2024 5:49:26 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: jeffc
Usually, a change to the by-laws requires 30 days notice of intention of the meeting and a high percentage of owners. Never buy in an HOA. Boards tend to lean toward individuals with control issues and those desperate for instant popularity.
9 posted on 03/27/2024 5:57:02 AM PDT by liberalh8ter ( Ephesians 6:10 - 18)
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To: Twotone

NEVER live in an area with an HOA.
NEVER.


10 posted on 03/27/2024 5:57:25 AM PDT by Macoozie (Roll MAGA, roll!)
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To: Alberta's Child

I love living in an HOA community. They are all different, so be sure to read and understand the bylaws before deciding.


11 posted on 03/27/2024 5:57:36 AM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: Red Badger

My HOA experience wasn’t horrible, but the BS was more than enough to NEVER want to be in an HOA neighborhood again. I understand how they can be useful, and some probably work great…. but you cannot fully control whether the next board president or board is good people or power hungry Karens.


12 posted on 03/27/2024 6:01:40 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Ellen Ate Dynamite Good Bye Ellen)
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"I thought we were a community, and now, it's become us versus them."

I think this guy is full of crap. He talks about the “community,” but according to the information in the article he doesn’t even live there anymore and is renting his home to a tenant.

Full disclosure: In my experience, tenant-occupied homes are the source of at least 90% of the problems in an HOA. And in almost every case I’ve read about in media reports like this one, there seems to be one common issue: the homeowner rents the home to a tenant and doesn’t even inform the tenant about the HOA and its regulations.

13 posted on 03/27/2024 6:01:59 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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Rubber hoses or tar & feathers.

C’mon, man.


14 posted on 03/27/2024 6:07:57 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Alberta's Child

That’s true, my wife and I currently have two residences both in HOAs, at one time we owned an office condo which also had an HOA and all three were PITAs.

The one potential area in this dispute I would question is the ability the Board to unilaterally change how the Board was elected, I would read the Covenants and Restrictions really closely to see if they grant the Board that type of power.

I personally have used this argument to stop the Board at one of our properties from changing the color of the building without a vote of the full ownership, once that happened the color change was voted down.

In general, most boards eventually end up in turmoil, they rock along just fine for years and suddenly a new neighbor decides to get on the board and the power goes to their head and the trouble begins.

IMO, HOA Boards have one role, maintain the property values in the community by taking care of the necessities.


15 posted on 03/27/2024 6:20:24 AM PDT by srmanuel ( )
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Good! It is what they get for having a HOA.


16 posted on 03/27/2024 6:21:59 AM PDT by sport
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“This is the exact reason I told our Real Estate agent: NO HOAs...................”

Same here, I told her I would be kicked out within the first month.

In my hood, every other house has a boat, trailer, RV’s, golf carts... Love it!

My yard has 2 Boats, 2 RV’s, and a small trailer. NO HOA.


17 posted on 03/27/2024 6:22:43 AM PDT by VastRWCon (Fake News)
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To: srmanuel
I worked on a commercial real estate project a few years ago. The client’s lawyer happened to be a renowned expert in condominium law in that state, and I got a great education from him over the course of 18 months.

He usually represented condo and HOA boards, so whenever I would mention a common complaint about HOA boards he would explain, in great detail, the legal rationale for why HOA boards do some of the things they do.

At the time, he was representing an HOA board that was being sued by one of the owners for enforcing their flag/banner restrictions. The homeowner claimed that his First Amendment rights were being violated because the HOA wouldn’t allow him to fly an Ohio State flag during college football season. The lawyer said he always advises HOA boards to enforce rules like this very strictly. I never forget his quote about that issue: ”If you let one homeowner fly an Ohio State flag, you can’t stop the one next door from flying a Nazi flag.”

18 posted on 03/27/2024 6:29:50 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: VastRWCon

When I lived in South Florida in the late 70’s, I lived next door to a town that was run like a HOA.

No cars in the driveway, had to be put in the garage by 6 pm.

No vans, even very expensive custom vans at the time were popular, were considered ‘work vehicles’.

Garbage cans had to be out of sight and in pristine condition, this was before the ubiquitous mechanically lifted cans of today.

Garbage cans had to be removed from the street before 10 am on Garbage Days.

No holiday decorations on homes before week of and after holiday.

Lights cannot blink, must be constant.

et al.....................


19 posted on 03/27/2024 6:30:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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"A home is one of the biggest investments someone is going to make, you want to guard that and you want to keep the community looking good and the yards in good shape and broken-down vehicles not parked on the street, that's what an HOA does for you," Leek said.

That is all pretty much rubbish that is used to justify HOA fees and punishments. HOA boards tend to attract petty tyrants and sociopaths.

What the HOA can do well is proper maintenance of common facilities. Most new subdivisions are built with walkways or small park areas which require care. The cities want nothing to do with such expenses and they get developers to assign them to the HOA that is organized with the subdivision.

A well-run HOA takes care of common properties. It is their only legitimate function.

20 posted on 03/27/2024 6:30:29 AM PDT by flamberge (It turns out that you can fool most of the people, most of the time.)
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