Posted on 03/27/2024 5:32:33 AM PDT by Twotone
In the HOA I was in, 90% of the homeowners voted to get rid of it. If the BOD liked you, you could do anything. If not, they’d create violations - one of mine was “leaving a shovel in the yard”! I told them I’d go to court and kick their butts because there was NOTHING in the CC&Rs or HOA rules against it - and I was digging a hole to plant a tree that day. They backed down, but that kind of crap is why the large majority of home-OWNERS voted to remove the HOA.
We held a vote and removed all the CC&Rs and HOA. Years later, the neighborhood looks much the same but without the need to go to monthly meetings to keep from being screwed.
One rule they tried to pass would have limited the number of cars we could own. Another tried to retroactively make it illegal to own horses - when many of us already did. Heck, the HOA lawyer regularly wrote to the BOD saying they were trying to do illegal things - so they fired her! When your own lawyer says you are trying to break state law....
HOAs can work in some places but they can also be taken over by petty tyrants who think they are above the law.
He lives there, so fix that. Break into his house and occupy it 40 illegal aliens, who beat him into a coma when he comes home. Then fine his for 300 a week times 20 for 10 families.
whatever ...
I wouldn’t have a home in a HOA area if they gave it too me. I understand the concept behind the HOA’s but the people that run them are psycho’s. Give me a house in the mountains with no neighbors any day.
Feudalism.
Any association you can not leave is a cult.
Just the way it is.
That some people try to sell it as "freedom" is laughable.
“KGW talked with multiple families who were penalized for having older family members, like parents-in-law, living with them. The HOA board fined families $300 per week for using their homes as “multi-family dwellings.” “
Why does the HOA want to make some lawyer(s) rich?
He is so right. There are two types of people who hoist themselves onto HOA boards:
1) those who give service; and
2) those who want power.
Most HOA boards end up with only the latter, because the power-motivated ones drive the service-motivated ones out via the usual political moves, such as accusations of racism.
When I lived in a HOA neighborhood, we wanted to change the color of our house to a earth tone khaki color. We even made a board with stucco and house and trim paint to show them what it would look like on the house. The president said it was disapproved, so I visited him to discuss it. He said it was too dark and that my electric bill would go up due to the dark color (Florida). I said, I’m a big boy and can make those types of decisions myself-thanks for your concern, but it’s not your concern.
Few days later, go a letter approving the color. We survived 25 years there but had numerous other issues. We now live in non-hoa area.
You have no idea what the hell you are talking about. You can review 24+ years of my posts here to see how wrong you are.
Exactly—HOAs work great until they don’t.
There is no way to tell when they go crazy—definitely not worth the risk.
You might be confusing HOAs with HOA management companies. I don’t know where you live, but in every state where I’ve worked the HOA is attached to every property title in a subdivision. That’s more than just a “contract.” It’s an encumbrance or covenant on the property itself.
It shouldn't be that way regarding paint colors. Usually the original developer has a selection of a dozen or fewer paint colors for doors, siding and shutters, and a formula for how often they repeat in, say, a townhome community. A single change to that formula (such as the original paint company discontinuing a color) should be reassigned to a similar color from another supplier. An overall change to the color scheme should have to go through a proposal to the entire community and a sizeable majority vote.
This is a difficult one.
You should have the freedom to live like you want on your property.
That seems pretty clear cut.
Until the neighbor drops a mobile home in the street opposite you.
You make a bad assumption if you think that everyone has the same ideas about property that you do.
Good neighbors are worth a million bucks.
No they aren’t. They are hired organizations that can be fired upon contractual determination. If the people that hired them did not read the contract and make sure they were not setting themselves up, they just terminate the service.
Incorrect. An HOA is not a hired service. That is a property management company, which many HOAs also hire. But an HOA board itself is an elected group of owner/volunteers whose mandate is to enforce a contract of by-laws that every owner signs at the time of settlement.
I’m not captive in an HOA. I can move any time I choose.
No neighbors is worth more.
Lurker wrote:
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There’s a way to deal with people like this.
Quietly and late at night.
L
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Do the HOA board members live in that subdivision?
You’re right, it should be that way but it turns out that way at least in my experience dealing with one.
For example, a neighbor got denied a garden flag the size of a license plate for their yard, other neighbors were allowed to put up signs about dogs pooping on their yards which were rules okay by the ARB.
Another neighbor got denied a trellis for the front of their house even though they got approval for a fence to protect their vegetable garden.
It’s all petty BS that is at the root of all the problems.
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