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STOP AIDS BY STOPPING THE SINS
US Centre for DIsease Control & the Physicians Consortium ^ | 5/22/2002 | RWBaral, RN,CEN,EMT-P

Posted on 05/23/2002 1:46:16 PM PDT by RWBaral

STOP AIDS BY STOPPING THE SINS

I write as Chairman of the non-profit organization, "Be informed! Lessen suffering! Save lives!, inc." The mission of BLS is "to promote the public health, education, understanding and virtue." I wish to share how we can all help stop the terrible disease of AIDS in America.

It is heartening to know that many are concerned about the suffering and dying from AIDS, and of events to raise money to help AIDS patients. However, such AIDS fundraising events are not an answer to stopping this horrific disease. Rather, let's tell the truth about AIDS. Stop AIDS by stopping the sins that have caused atleast 88% of AIDS cases in the USA. Allow me to explain.

As a career hospital Paramedic and then emergency room Nurse over about 20 years, I have seen so much suffering and death, often self-inflicted and avoidable. For such things my heart and soul break beyond human words. Some of these were AIDS patients.

I note certain activists, industries and politicians - often willingly - are ignorant of the FACTS of who is at risk for contracting HIV and thus what we can do to prevent it's spread. Politics and money over the health and welfare of people? It shouldn't happen, but it does.

Consider the US Centre for Disease Control (CDC) table 5 US AIDS totals for men and both genders to 12/31/2000 for exposure categories: men who have sex with men (MSM); intravenous grug abusers (IVDA); both MSM and IVDA; heterosexual contacts, etc (www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasr1202table5.htm).

For US male AIDS cases, 56% are MSM; 22% are IVDA; 8% are MSM and IVDA; 5% are heterosexual contacts.

For US both genders AIDS cases, 46% are MSM; 25% are IVDA; 6% are MSM and IVDA; 11% are heterosexual contacts. 46% + 25% + 6% + 11%=88%.

Further, so called "safe sex" is a medical lie. The Physicians Consortium reports that, even if male latex condoms are used 100% perfectly all of the time, they are no more effective against HIV infection than 85% (www.headlines.agapepress.org/archives/7/252001b.asp).

So what does this data tell us? The truth. Avoid homosexual relations. Do not use intravenous drugs. Do not be sexually promiscuous. Stop the at risk behaviours, and you stop most HIV infections.

Translated: simple! The answers to stopping most US HIV infections, and thus AIDS cases, are morality and marriage. GOD gives us His Moral Code (ex Ten Commandments) and the institution of marriage because He loves us, wants to protect us, and see us flourish and be happy.

Thus, do not engage in forbidden sexual perversions that will cost you your earthly body and the damnation of your eternal soul. Keep your body clean and don't mess with drugs. Abstinence until marriage, then marrige between one man and one woman, within a mutually faithful, loving, uninfected relationship, hopefully for life.

The days of consequence-free sexual debauchery, free love and casual sex are over (as if they ever really existed?). The sexually transmitted diseases you can acquire today in America too often can't be just taken care of with a few pills or a shot. AIDS is lethal, and there is not likely to be a cure - ever.

The AIDS fundraising events, etc are nice gestures, but the answer to stopping most HIV infections in AMerica is to avoid the risk factor exposure category behaviours of homosexual relations, intravenous drug use and sexual promiscuity. Stop AIDS by telling the truth. Stop AIDS bwith GOD's Moral Code and the blessings of marriage. "Stop AIDS by stopping the sins" is my humble prayer, in JESUS' Name, Amen.

GOD's Speed To All,

Mr. R. W. Baral, RN,CEN,EMT-P, Chairman, "Be informed! Lessen suffering! Save lives!, inc." Po Box 315 Bennington, VT 05201 bls135@aol.com (802)-423-7636


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KEYWORDS: abstinence; adultery; aids; drugs; gays; god; hiv; homosexuals; intravenous; love; marriage; promiscuity; safesex; sin
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To: Come get it
"He gave us free will, which means that we can do whatever we want. "

"God is in control, whether you like it or not."

Interesting that you don't see the contradiction of these two sentances.

Castro has a free people, as long as they vote the way he wants them to.

41 posted on 05/24/2002 12:01:34 PM PDT by RS
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To: RS
Typical. Take my quotes out of context. Did you bother to read anything else, like the part right after the first sentence you used where I qualified my statement? If someone reads the post in its entirety, there is no contradiction.

Yes, we are free to do what we want, but we are not free of consequences. There is no such thing as a life without consequences. If you live according to what God wants, you probably won't get AIDS. I say "probably", because the story of Job comes to mind. However, Job didn't die because God wouldn't let Satan kill him. He said that Satan could harm him in any way, but couldn't take his life. This was all to test Job's dedication to God.

Read the story, or continue to be ignorant, either way it's your choice. If you read the Bible and then choose to not follow God, at least you'll be making an informed decision. You are free to choose God or to turn away from him. Both decisions have consequences. You may not realize the consequences until after you die, but they are waiting for you.

Ultimately, God is in control.

42 posted on 05/24/2002 12:26:15 PM PDT by Come get it
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To: RWBaral
Bump
43 posted on 05/24/2002 12:30:20 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: Come get it
That old Bible verse, "The wages of sin is death" is certainly true in this instance. And the literal hell of it is, innocent people must pay those wages too, when they become infected by one of the sinners.

This old-fashioned language may offend some. Tough.

44 posted on 05/24/2002 12:35:00 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Come get it
"Read the story, or continue to be ignorant, "

You know nothing of my knowledge of the Bible or God, and your ignorance has led you to make statements with no supporting information. A childish mistake, but one that I can forgive.

Unless you assume God has no knowledge of the consequences of His actions, He specifically created the fallen angel Satan, one of whose pre-ordained tasks was to torture poor Job. Conversely, God knew that Job would prevail in the trials, yet He still put poor Job through them. Even today's scientists would not put a lab rat through such an experiment , knowing with 100% certainty what the outcome would be.

Or perhaps you don't believe in an all-powerfull, all-knowing God.

45 posted on 05/24/2002 3:28:54 PM PDT by RS
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To: RS
You are right that I made assumptions regarding your knowledge, and for that I apologize. Yes, God created Satan, and yes, God knew what the outcome would be, but He still did it because other people need to see the power of God displayed through the lives of everyday people. He did that to Job for our benefit, and for the benefit of Job's friends. There are many sides to any one action of God's. He can accomplish more things with one action than we can imagine. You seem to be trying to put God in a box, so to speak. He is not that simple.

So to answer your question, yes, I do believe that God is all-powerful and all-knowing. He knew what the result of Job's testing would be, but He did it anyway because we need to see and hear Job's testimony.

But we digress...

47 posted on 05/24/2002 4:27:35 PM PDT by Come get it
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To: RS
One other minor point, but it is an important one. You state that "He still put poor Job through them", yet God did not do those things, He allowed Satan to do them.

I know you will come back saying that God created Satan, so God did it indirectly. If you want to believe that, fine, but the point is that Satan did it, not God.

48 posted on 05/24/2002 4:31:11 PM PDT by Come get it
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To: Come get it
"This was all to test Job's dedication to God. "
"He did that to Job for our benefit, and for the benefit of Job's friends. "
I'm glad you seem to have realized that Job's trials were not a test of him but simply some sort of demonstration for the rest of us.

But what has it really demonstrated ?
That the trials in our lives might be God running an experiment? Hardly, since He knows the outcome.
That God is the boss and can take the leash off his nastier creations whenever he chooses ? Nope, If you believe in God you already know it, if you don't you won't connect it.

Hopefully he had some rational reason for it, but the explainations so far are simply not very God-like, more like some petty dictator trying to prove how strong he is, and therby asserting his weekness.
49 posted on 05/24/2002 5:02:09 PM PDT by RS
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To: Come get it
"..but the point is that Satan did it, not God."

"He said that Satan could harm him in any way.."
Sure looks like He gave His permission to me ... Billy, you can do anything to your sister excpt hit her with the baseball bat...

Hitler didn't kill anyone either
( well, maybe in WW I, think he was a sargent )

50 posted on 05/24/2002 5:11:00 PM PDT by RS
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To: RS;Come get it
Hitler didn't kill anyone either ( well, maybe in WW I, think he was a sargent )

He was a corporal.

God did not create Satan. He created Lucifer as an angel. Lucifer exercised his free will and became Satan (The Adversary).

51 posted on 05/24/2002 5:18:15 PM PDT by Skooz
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To: RS;Come get it
......but what does that have to do with AIDS or the behavior that leads to it?
52 posted on 05/24/2002 5:20:26 PM PDT by Skooz
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To: Come get it
AIDS and other VD's are God's punishment for sexual immorality

I must disagree. AIDS and other STDs are not direct punishments from God. They are the natural consequence of sin. If you choose not to eat and you starve to death, your death is not a judgement from God, it is the natural consequence of not eating.

53 posted on 05/24/2002 5:27:01 PM PDT by Skooz
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To: Skooz
"God did not create Satan. He created Lucifer as an angel. Lucifer exercised his free will and became Satan (The Adversary)."

Please see the earlier posts -

With the full knowlefge of the consequences of His creating, He created entities without the necessary will power to keep from being seduced by "the dark side".

It's as if I design a car with bad brakes, them blame the car for not stopping.

Since God created the basic concepts of good and evil themselves, He knows exactly how evil operates. ( Exactly how HE wants it to operate)

Could God create good without creating evil ? Perhaps not, the concept of free will seems to need both good and bad.
But God is all-powerfull, surely He could make free will and good without being forced to create evil, so the creation of evil was a choice, something he required in the world.

54 posted on 05/24/2002 5:34:43 PM PDT by RS
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To: yendu bwam
I think withdrawing support for every United Way Drive and giving instead to the Boy Scouts or Alateral Sclerosis or the Salvation Army or the St.Vincent DePaul Society might send a nice,clear message to many folks that they need to start to attack the problem at the source. Aids is big business,there is not much we can do about our taxes going to our government to subsidize sex but certainly our private charitable donations should be used to make a statement.
55 posted on 05/24/2002 5:36:15 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: RS
I'm glad you seem to have realized that Job's trials were not a test of him but simply some sort of demonstration for the rest of us.

Close, but no cigar. Job's trials were a demonstration, but not for "the rest of us." Job's trials were a demonstration for Satan. Read the first two chapters again. Satan foolishly challenges God. Twice! God apparently intends to prove Satan wrong.

Naturally, Satan loses the challenge and is proven wrong. There are things we may learn from considering this situation, and obviously God foresaw all that we might learn from it. But the text states that the demonstration was directed primarily towards Satan, not humans.

To claim otherwise, you must first disbelieve the text. In that case, you have no material with which to argue.

56 posted on 05/24/2002 5:40:47 PM PDT by Kyrie
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To: RS
I read the earlier posts, thus I made the distinction between Lucifer and Satan.

God created us with free will. He did not create a race of robots. Just like anyone else, He wants acceptance and love given freely, not a subject race of obedient automatons.

Whether evil can good can exist independent of one another is a philosophical debate that goes back at least 1800 years, so I rather doubt we will resolve it here.

Nevertheless, I fail to see your point in relation to the subject at hand: AIDS and the actions which lead to it.

57 posted on 05/24/2002 5:41:30 PM PDT by Skooz
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To: Skooz
Ooops: Whether evil can good = Whether evil and good
58 posted on 05/24/2002 5:42:51 PM PDT by Skooz
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To: Skooz
Yo people! Check this out! I posted this lettre on Nurse to Nurse at www.nursingspectrum.com with the same title, "STOP AIDS BY STOPPING THE SINS." I did this because I am a retired hospital Paramedic and emergency roon Nurse by profession. I figured Health Care workers would appreciate the importance of what I am trying to say on my post...forget that! I want everyone who has posted here on this thread I started to go to Nurse to Nurse and see what other so called Health Care Professionals (Nurseys) said in reply to me...you wont believe it! After ye do, let us know what you found and what you think! Thanks, Mr. Baral (Armaircorp)
59 posted on 05/24/2002 5:45:18 PM PDT by RWBaral
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To: RWBaral
Facts are irrelevent to the indoctrinated.
60 posted on 05/24/2002 5:49:46 PM PDT by Skooz
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