As they say in Kentucky; "Cymru am bith".

News Wales (UK) ^ | 8/26/02 | Unknown

[scouse]

Did the Welsh discover America?

26/8/2002

A team of historians and researchers announced today that Radio Carbon dating evidence, and the discovery of ancient British style artefacts and inscriptions in the American Midwest, provide the strongest indications yet" that British explorers, under the Prince Madoc ap Meurig, arrived in the country during the 6th Century and set up colonies there.

Research team members have known the location of burial sites of Madoc's close relatives in Wales for some time, it emerged today; but they have decided to break their self-imposed silence in order that their research be fully known and understood. DNA evidence could provide vital new leads, they say.

"We have a mass of remarkable evidence," said British historian Alan Wilson, who has been working with Jim Michael of the Ancient Kentucke Historical Association since 1989. "As experts in ancient British history, we were approached by Jim and visited locations in the Mid West with him," he added.

Many of the grave mounds found in the American mid West, including those at Bat Creek, Tennessee, are ancient British in origin and design, Wilson said. Jim Michael added, "the stone tablet found at Bat Creek in 1889 included an inscription written in Coelbren, an ancient British alphabet known and recorded by historians and bards down the ages."

Wilson said that his research had brought him into contact with very similar alphabet inscriptions in Britain, Europe and the Middle East. "The components of the alphabet derive from the earliest days of the Khumric (Welsh) people," he added, "and were used along their migration routes to Wales in antiquity."

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[CholeraJoe]

If you believe Farley Mowat in Farfarer the original settlers of Iceland, Greenland and North America were the pre-Celtic inhabitants of Scotland who predated the Vikings by several hundred years in all of those locations. This is not too farfetched then.

[linuxnut]

This is all very interesting but everyone knows that Algore found and invented America.

[WIladyconservative]

Does that mean Sean Connery can be President?;^)

[CholeraJoe]

Does that mean Sean Connery can be President?;^)

Connery is Scottish. I prefer Katherine Zeta Jones. She's Welsh.

[crazykatz]

The Welsh are not Jews nor are they middle eastern.....those supposed folks in the book of mormon were supposedly JEWS from the middle east.

Since WE HAVE ACTUAL PROOF that the Vikings were in North America and they were fair haired....most likely the folks mentioned in this article were likely to have been NORTHERN EUROPEANS or WELSHMEN. I have even read that St. Brendan, the Irish Saint, came to the NEW WORLD in the 5th or 6th century.

The Vikings were great explorers...even went to Constantinople in the 3rd or 4th centuries, I think.

[DAnconia55]

The dirty little secret. Our leaders are descended from European royalty scum.

Lots of them.

[Jim Noble]

My little daughter, out of the blue yesterday, asked, "Mommy-if you died, who would take care of us while daddy went to work?"

While she was stammering out an answer about Nana and Auntie, I said, "Why, Catherine Zeta-Jones, of course".

Slept on the couch.

[Spirited]

Bump for closer review.

[CholeraJoe]

A slip of the tongue like that will do it every time.

[blam]

The 582 date is interesting because it is in the Dark Ages and only 40 years after Mike Baillie thinks a comet fragment plunged into the Celtic Sea. A good reason to set out for other areas.

Also, there is a plaque at Fort Morgan at the mouth of Mobile Bay that commerrates prince Madoc's arrival here in 1170AD (Erected by modern day believers)

[RightWhale]

588 years is pretty long for a transatlantic voyage, almost epic proportions. They sure knew how to build boats, though, or at least old Madoc did.

[gcruse]

Honesty isn't always the best policy.

[pabianice]

Looks like they're going to take away Columbus Day and give us a day named after a guy whose name we can't pronounce

LOL!

[pabianice]

Nonsense. The Muslim's didn't discover America -- the Gao'uld did.

[twigs]

No, it's not true. Early in America's history, immigrants saw themselves as the "new Israel." The Old Testament was taught and studied a lot more in their churches than it probably is today. The Book of Mormon comes out of that way of thinking. However, that is not to say that Jews did not come here early on. They were scattered and I personally believe that early peoples took to the seas a lot more often than we would believe possible today. There is a cave in KY which has Roman coins supposedly dated from the 2nd century AD believed to have been brought here by escaping Jews. I have not researched that to know whether or not further research supports that or has been "proven" to be a hoax. Freepers seem to be well-read on this subject and hopefully may enlighten me on the findings. I do believe that Madoc was here and Brendan may have been as well. And who knows who else?

[GOP_1900AD]

Hmmm, given your "name," I suspect you to be quite proximate the the land of places named Llllllllemyrghryhyaderithoroglyth or some such! ;), it ain't but a few miles from the Mersey. But I digress...

I hope these discoveries are bona fide because it will add even more ammunition to the arsenals of those of us who want to resist the multicultaralisation of the USA. At our roots, we are a British land. British culture has always been the essence of our core values and system. Granted, we were borne out of rebellion, but the rebellion was of British men against fellow British men. At the end of the day, we must not forget from whence we have come.

[twigs]

The Welsh are not Jews nor are they middle eastern

I wonder. My husband, who is supposedly mostly German and some English, looks very Mediterranean. A Moroccan asked him recently if he was Arabic. When I mentioned my genealogical research to our family doctor, he mentioned that my husband looks a lot like some of his Welsh immigrant patients who are working here. I just thought that was very interesting.

[SGCOS]

Cymru am bith

After consuming a couple of gallons of stout ale, most Scotsman utter the same thing.

[blam]

English And Welsh Are Races Apart

[blam]

"588 years is pretty long for a transatlantic voyage, almost epic proportions. They sure knew how to build boats, though, or at least old Madoc did."

Hee,hee, Did you not see the mention of two different dates for 'ol Madoc's voyage in the article, 582AD and 1170AD?