Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Ancient Illinois Village Unearths Lode Of Questions
University Of Illinois ^ | 9-02-2002 | Andrea Lynn

Posted on 09/02/2002 4:23:13 PM PDT by blam

Contact: Andrea Lynn
a-lynn@uiuc.edu
217-333 -2177
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

Ancient Illinois village unearths lode of questions

CHAMPAIGN, Ill. -- Digging under a blazing sun in an Illinois cornfield, archaeologists this summer unearthed a fascinating anomaly: a 900-year-old square hilltop village. The discovery near Shiloh -- about 15 miles southeast of St. Louis -- challenges previous notions of the area's first people and adds a piece to the puzzle that was Cahokia, a huge "mother culture" that suddenly appeared, and just as suddenly vanished, leaving only traces of its majesty and meaning in the 11th century.

Until now, archaeologists believed that large Cahokian populations settled only on the floodplains and that their villages sprawled in free-form fashion. This "new" ridge-sitting village with four linear sides and a rigid orientation of buildings "was mind-blowing," said lead archaeologist Timothy Pauketat, a professor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. "I can't think of another village in this area that's like this." The great mystery: What was the purpose of this unique hinterlands village 12 miles from the major population center in Cahokia, and why did it have a large central residence and religious structures -- a plaza and four temples, all atypical of Cahokian villages?

Pauketat's hunch is that it was a farming village, a "feeder" for Cahokia, and an administrative outpost where a top official and, perhaps, functionaries, oversaw farming and "controlled that piece of the economy." The "evidence of authority" in the hinterlands "makes Cahokia look more like a centralized civilization and less like an elusive free gathering of Native Americans," Pauketat said.

University archaeologists have been digging near or at the so-called "Grossmann Site" for several years, but it was only this summer that Illinois graduate student and chief supervisor Susan Alt, Pauketat and a group of Illinois students found the third and fourth sides -- now only stains in the ground – of the village, the 75 small rectangular houses that lined the sides, and the four giant temples. In the center of each temple, they found the holes that once held the telephone-pole-sized roof supports. The temples had huge vaulted ceilings and thatched roofs, "something you usually see on a mound top. We were completely shocked." They also found some temple "ritual debris," including a figurine -- fire-splintered into perhaps 2,000 pieces, plus crystals and burned tools. These probably are "the remains of annual ritual burnings, ceremonies called 'renewing the temple.' "

Cahokia was "drawing great numbers of people into it," Pauketat said. "It goes from 1,000 to 10,000 people in a matter of 50 years. Most went to Cahokia, but some ended up in places like this, sent to help administer the farmers." Why so many people relocated so rapidly is still a mystery, he said.

Some archaeologists, including Pauketat, think of Cahokia as a mother culture. "They do something that is entirely unique and they do it much earlier. Within a century or two, people up and down the Mississippi and across the coastal plain of the Southeast are copying them, so you get Mississippian mounds and large settlements, but you never get anything that rivals this. So, Cahokia is just a moment, an experiment in civilization, that falters and goes away and never really comes back."

### The National Science Foundation and the National Geographic Society also supported the dig.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois; US: Mississippi; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: ancient; archaeology; cahokia; decalogue; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; grossmannsite; history; illinois; lode; loslunas; mississippi; missouri; monksmound; susanalt; tencommandments; timothypauketat; unearths; village
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-67 last
To: #3Fan
It was during a Roman civil war. Julius Caesar's troops intentionally set fire to the waterfront area, and it spread into a citywide conflagration that happened to include the library.

(I've been using my tagline since before Calvin Locke's comment.)
61 posted on 01/11/2003 11:08:09 PM PST by A.J.Armitage (President of the Ed Gein Fan Club)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: blam
Dragons...

I'd like to hear any comments about the (very distant, I'll admit) possibility of some truth behind all the dragon stories in europe. I was in Switzerland recently, at a place called Mt. Pilotus (totally gorgeous....) and at the peak they had a trail through some man-made caves (ready made gardrails) where they also had various plaques with text from a researcher who had collected recorded historic accounts of (supposed) dragon sitings, mostly from the 13 and 1400s. Apparently Mt. Pilotus was greatly feared for the dragons they thought were there...

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure 99% of this was hogwash...though our ancestors of 800 years ago surely believed in the reality of dragons.... Still though, what of the 1% possibility of some nugget of truth behind the dragon legends?

Any comments FReepers? Any links to this subject?
62 posted on 01/11/2003 11:33:59 PM PST by AnalogReigns
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: null and void
Philestine is not equal to Palestinian. But it sure sounds pretty close, which is the whole idea. So then you can create a "Palestine", so all the Palestinians can come back to their "biblical home". Of course - Arafat was born in Palestine, that's why he holds it so dear.



(actually - Arafat was born in Egypt, but don't tell anyone - its a secret).
63 posted on 01/12/2003 12:15:38 AM PST by geopyg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: AnalogReigns
"Don't get me wrong, I'm sure 99% of this was hogwash...though our ancestors of 800 years ago surely believed in the reality of dragons.... Still though, what of the 1% possibility of some nugget of truth behind the dragon legends? "

As much as some people want to believe that there were dragons, there has never been a dragon skeleton found. Dragons were sometimes used to describe comets and meteorites which is more believeable for me.

64 posted on 01/12/2003 10:03:14 AM PST by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: A.J.Armitage
It was during a Roman civil war. Julius Caesar's troops intentionally set fire to the waterfront area, and it spread into a citywide conflagration that happened to include the library.

So then our mainstream scientific community could be worse than the Romans. They intentionally destroy evidence whereas the Romans may not have intentionally burned the library. :^)

65 posted on 01/12/2003 11:47:12 AM PST by #3Fan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

Just updating the GGG information, not sending a general distribution.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

66 posted on 05/19/2005 9:05:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Tuesday, May 10, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


· join list or digest · view topics · view or post blog · bookmark · post a topic · subscribe ·

 
Gods
Graves
Glyphs
Just updating the GGG info, not sending a general distribution.



To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.
GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother, and Ernest_at_the_Beach
 

·Dogpile · Archaeologica · Mirabilis.ca · LiveScience · Biblical Archaeology Society ·
· Discover · Bronze Age Forum · Science Daily · Science News · Eurekalert · PhysOrg ·
· Nat Geographic · Texas AM Anthro News · Yahoo Anthro & Archaeo · Google ·
· Archaeology · The Archaeology Channel · Excerpt, or Link only? · cgk's list of ping lists ·
· History topic · history keyword · archaeology keyword · paleontology keyword ·
· Science topic · science keyword · Books/Literature topic · pages keyword · ·


67 posted on 08/19/2010 5:23:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-67 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson