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Extra Dimensions Showing Hints Of Scientific Revolution
spacedaily.com ^ | 19 Feb 03 | staff

Posted on 02/19/2003 9:18:15 AM PST by RightWhale

Extra Dimensions Showing Hints Of Scientific Revolution

Chicago - Feb 19, 2003

The concept of extra dimensions, dismissed as nonsense even by one of its earliest proponents nearly nine decades ago, may soon help solve seemingly unrelated problems in particle physics, cosmology and gravitational physics, according to a panel of experts who spoke Feb. 15 at the American Association for the Advancement of Science annual meeting in Denver.

"It doesn't happen often that you get a confluence of ideas and experiments that come together and it's something that obviously would change your whole way of looking at the universe," said one of the panelists, Joseph Lykken, Professor in Physics at the University of Chicago and a scientist at Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory. Even though scientists lack direct evidence of extra dimensions, "we have a number of hints from experiments and theoretical ideas that make us think they're probably out there. That's why we're so excited about looking for them," Lykken said. On the theoretical side, string theory, developed over the past two decades, requires that space-time has extra dimensions if it is to include gravity. "It's just built into the way that string theory works," Lykken said.

Experiments, meanwhile, have produced the standard model of physics to describe the most elementary particles and the forces that hold them together. Physicists have come to suspect that something is missing from the standard model. "There seems to be more particles and forces than we really need, and they operate in more complicated ways than they need to," Lykken said. But extra dimensions may ultimately help explain these data complications. "That standard model itself may be our biggest hint that there's this world of extra dimensions," he said.

New experiments at Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory are producing data that just don't fit the standard model, said Maria Spiropulu an Enrico Fermi Fellow at the University of Chicago. "We have things in the data that leave our mouths hanging," she said. Whether extra dimensions or some other phenomenon emerges to clarify these murky data, scientists seem certain that they stand only a few years away from a scientific revolution. "What's going on right now in particle physics, gravitational physics and cosmology is like when quantum mechanics started coming together," Spiropulu said.

Quantum mechanics, developed in the 1920s, describes the physics of objects at the atomic level and dominates the concepts of modern physics. Spiropulu, who organized the AAAS session on the physics of extra dimensions, spoke at the session along with scientists from Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, Harvard University and the universities of Chicago and Washington. Another panelist, Sean Carroll, Assistant Professor in Physics at the University of Chicago, said that extra dimensions could help solve two mysteries in cosmology: what were the initial conditions of the universe and what is the mysterious dark energy that is accelerating the expansion of the universe. The idea of an inflationary universe, one that expanded rapidly just moments after the big bang, has gained wide acceptance among cosmologists to explain how conditions in the early universe could be unexpectedly different from what they later came to be. But inflationary cosmology tells scientists nothing about the initial conditions of the universe. This is where extra dimensions come in, even though they might be microscopically small.

"If you had extra dimensions, then when the universe is very small at early times, the extra dimensions weren't small compared to the rest of the universe," Carroll said. "They must have played a big role. What was that role? Could the role have something to do how we perceive the initial conditions?" Extra dimensions may also explain dark energy. Physicists conjecture that dark energy is governed partly by occurrences in the familiar four dimensions and partly by occurrences in the extra dimensions, Carroll explained. "There is the tantalizing possibility that a complete change of perspective makes all of the problems collapse at once," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: bigbang; colossalcrash; crevolist; darkenergy; darkmatter; gravity; origin; realscience; steadystate; stringtheory
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To: RightWhale
Would this be something like the Fifth Dimension?

Sounds like the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius to me...


21 posted on 02/19/2003 10:18:32 AM PST by Paradox
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To: RightWhale
Oh yeah, did someone say something about extra "dementians"?


22 posted on 02/19/2003 10:21:13 AM PST by Paradox
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To: gregwest
Tumbolia, per Godel, Escher, Bach.
23 posted on 02/19/2003 10:21:58 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy (Be careful what you wish for: you might get it.)
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To: All
Interesting article here: The search for extra dimensions.
24 posted on 02/19/2003 10:22:50 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas)
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To: PatrickHenry
Thanks for the link.
As Mr. Spock would say - "It's fascinating."
25 posted on 02/19/2003 10:25:39 AM PST by NEWwoman
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To: Mr. K
Physicists have come to suspect that something is missing from the standard model. "There seems to be more particles and forces than we really need, and they operate in more complicated ways than they need to," Lykken said.

Occam's razor is useless without Gillette's shave cream.

26 posted on 02/19/2003 10:31:14 AM PST by talleyman (All your belong to us are belong to us)
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To: Dark Nerd; Zack Nguyen
LOL!
(to Dark Nerd) I have that episode on tape. I love it!
(to Zack) And the answer to all of life's questions is...
28 posted on 02/19/2003 10:58:57 AM PST by Pyro7480 (+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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To: RightWhale
Epicycles. But, hey, the math works.
29 posted on 02/19/2003 11:06:34 AM PST by js1138
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To: PatrickHenry
I'm an Aquarius!
30 posted on 02/19/2003 11:31:43 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Alamo-Girl
I'm still waiting to see the

HEAVENS ROLLED BACK LIKE A SCROLL.

What's behind the curtain, Lord?

Exciting times.

BTW, Angel-Gal,

have had a raft of emails and articles hit my inbox today which seem to indicate high probability (if not definite) of WAR by 3 Mar.

A) That's sobering given the noises from Taiwan/China; NKorea; India Pakistan and all the rest currently. PRAYER AT LEAST GREATLY STILL IN ORDER

B) Do you think if and when "festivities" get kicked of in really big ways in diverse points that some of this extradimensional stuff is going to enter in somehow--either in weapons, UFO stuff; God/Supernatural stuff vis a vis some cryptic prophetic Scriptures?

Curious about your great wisdom, insight AND GUESSES on such.
31 posted on 02/19/2003 11:31:55 AM PST by Quix (FREEPCARDS additions will be delayed until after birthday and Albuquerque trip)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
I'm an Aquarius!

This is not a sex chat room!

32 posted on 02/19/2003 11:36:08 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas)
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To: RightWhale
So where's Mr. Myxtlplyk?
33 posted on 02/19/2003 11:55:20 AM PST by Argus
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To: RightWhale; aruanan
Yes, reality must be made to conform to the mathematics rather than the mathematics conforming to reality.
****PINK MATTER ALERT*****
34 posted on 02/19/2003 12:00:52 PM PST by Gary Boldwater
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To: Quix; betty boop; Phaedrus
Thank you so much for your post and all the kudos!

With regard to Bible prophecy, by my reading, events have been converging rapidly: Prophecy related events during the Clinton administration. I recognize these and much more as "signs of the times" (Matthew 25, II Timothy 3.) On the geopolitical stage since Clinton, powers align closely to Daniel - war in Iraq could divide the world into the Daniel prophesy of ideological groupings with Israel at the geographic hub. Therefore, I am alert (Revelation 22) but not certain - since we can only know the signs, not the date and time.

With regard to the research of other dimensions and particularly, higher dimensional dynamics - I'm very glad for the work in progress. For too long science has limited itself to exploring only within the physical realm, i.e. that which can be observed is all that there is. Moreover, that "physical realm" has generally excluded space/time and extra dimensions except when it had to be considered, usually by physicists. But, the actual import of the physicists' findings reach to every corner of science. This is what I think they will appreciate!

I anticipate scientists will be astonished with what they find with regard to extra dimensions, super symmetry and the Higgs field/boson. I take these articles as clues of what they might find and hints of where it might lead:

Ultra early Universe
Time gives rays a break
Quantum Reality
Atom wave phenomenon
STM Publications
As to how Bible prophecy and science might converge, I do not know except that I'm confident God will not allow us to learn more than we are able to "handle."

I'm thinking of the Tower of Babel here. In Biblical prophesy there is always a current fulfillment and a future fulfillment. So if science reaches too far, the game will be over IMHO.

35 posted on 02/19/2003 12:42:46 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mr. K
So long and thanks for all the fish!
36 posted on 02/19/2003 12:49:20 PM PST by KantianBurke (The Federal govt should be protecting us from terrorists, not handing out goodies)
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To: Alamo-Girl
But, the actual import of the physicists' findings reach to every corner of science.

Yes, and this is really exciting! We live in totally amazing times....

37 posted on 02/19/2003 12:57:46 PM PST by betty boop
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To: betty boop
Thank you for your post!

We live in totally amazing times....

Indeed we do! And there is wide support for the research between the physicists writing books for the general public and the proliferation of information via the internet! It's very exciting watching all this happen ...

38 posted on 02/19/2003 1:05:22 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Evolution is the daRwIning of the black hole --- dark age !
39 posted on 02/19/2003 1:10:04 PM PST by f.Christian (( + God *IS* Truth -- love * DELIVERANCE* *logic* -- *SANITY* Awakening + ))
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To: f.Christian
Thank you for your post! Hugs!
40 posted on 02/19/2003 1:15:18 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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