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Software programmers work at Covansys' Bangalore, India, office.

1 posted on 08/10/2003 1:51:19 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: harpseal
ping
2 posted on 08/10/2003 1:51:45 AM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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Guess I'll just have to start working longer and longer hours until my salary equals that of those in India.
5 posted on 08/10/2003 4:32:10 AM PDT by Glenn (What were you thinking, Al?)
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Stop whining and go fetch me a Slurpee, American Tech Worker!

7 posted on 08/10/2003 4:46:08 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: sarcasm
End game: The US becomes the home of Wall Street investors and few others with incomes?
8 posted on 08/10/2003 5:02:29 AM PDT by I_dmc
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/959787/posts
Lawmaker predicts defeat for 'Buy American' language (Defense Department procurement update)



"But, in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade." ~ Karl Marx, On the Question of Free Trade, January 9, 1848
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/01/09ft.htm#marx


"Communists and socialists feel sure that setting up international “free” trade systems which impose regulations chuck full of intrigues, redistribution plans, arbitrary law, and interdependence schemes, will win out against the conservative interests of every free nation. What could be better than to use “free” trade to reverse the advantage of the relatively free, moral, prosperous, and strong nations of the Earth, so that the tyrannical, amoral, poor, and weak nations of the socialist bloc might get the upper hand? What could be a more cunning approach than to market the idea that those who oppose “free” trade are enemies of freedom?" http://www.newsmax.com/commentarchive.shtml?a=2000/6/27/105655

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9 posted on 08/10/2003 5:12:10 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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Time to close the door to H1 VISAS.
16 posted on 08/10/2003 10:02:32 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("This ain't no place for a nervous person." - Mickey Redmond)
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Wall Street loves the job migration trend.

... Covansys ... cut 200 jobs from its American work force and added a similar number to its foreign operations... and the company's stock promptly jumped from $3.75 to $6.09.

Technology firms say they offer customers the choice of having the work done on-site, off-site or offshore. Most governments select offshore because it's cheaper.

I've read these types of threads many times now and the same story repeats itself. Idiot decision makers continue to use one criteria for all decisions: what cost less. I've been involved with both corporate and government decision makers who make the call to send such jobs overseas, and I can say that they don't even have a clue as to the details of what it takes to make/perform the products/services they send overseas. How do they know that they are getting a good product back from these overseas programmers if they themselves know nothing about programming? How do they know it's good code? What it the potential risk of giving away our technological advantages that took years to develop to our third-world competitors? Does anyone who makes such decisions understand the concept of unintended consequences? How long do they think these third-world competitors of ours will be content to be our servants once we are 100% leveraged on their services? 

21 posted on 08/10/2003 11:51:51 AM PDT by Chief_Joe (From where the sun now sits, I will fight on -FOREVER!)
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"We're doing what our customers are asking for, and what causes us to be competitive," said Martin Clague, chief executive of Covansys. "This is part of natural market dynamics."

And this is why the government needs to show some leadership on this issue. Industry is concerned about one thing: the bottom line. They can't expect to be concerned that there's no one left to buy their product as it is really outside of their core companancy.
The feds should fulfill their "promote the general welfare" clause of the Constitution and start putting limits on work done outside of the country.
24 posted on 08/10/2003 10:04:56 PM PDT by lelio
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