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NEW ITALIAN CATHEDRAL TO PADRE PIO DESIGNED AS FREEMASONIC TEMPLE
Chiesa Viva authored by Dr. Engineer Franco Addessa ^ | March 2006 | D. M. S.

Posted on 07/19/2006 10:40:38 AM PDT by Youngstown

IS THE NEW CATHEDRAL TO PADRE PIO IN SAN GIOVANNI ROTONDO ACTUALLY A "MASONIC TEMPLE"?

I have just received and am in the process of studying a special issue, #381 (March 2006), of the Italian religious magazine “CHIESA VIVA”. It is my understanding that in March 2006 this special issue was sent by the publisher/editor of “Chiesa Viva”, Dr. Monsignor Luigi Villa, to Catholic & 'catholic' priests, Bishops, Cardinals, as well as a selected group of Italian lay persons including members of the judiciary. This entire special issue deals with only one subject, that being the inauguration in July 2004 (construction began in 1996) of the new Cathedral dedicated to Padre Pio of San Giovanni Rotondo. The authors allege that after years of study they are now able to prove that this new church is in fact, NOT a Catholic Church, but rather a “Masonic temple”!

The authors (the engineer Franco Adessa) further allege that they have analyzed the complete church structure including the entry doors to the church, the altar plus the cross that hovers over it, the chapel of Adoration with the Tabernacle made out of jet black stone with the 13 plaques of silver as well as the immense stone cross that towers 40 meters over the piazza.

The authors allege that Masonic symbols are apparent everywhere. The authors allege that their special issue of Chiesa Viva has put into focus an alleged Masonic plan to DO battle with God by attempting to destroy the Catholic Church with Masonic Ecumenism. According to the authors the most devastating aspect of this blasphemy is the direct insult to the Holy Trinity and Our Lord Jesus Christ that have been symbolically displaced from the Cross and the Tabernacle and replaced by the blasphemous “Masonic triple trinity” and of Lucifer in person.

The authors allege that this story is one of money, power and control that go to the very top. To date news services around the world seem to be totally unaware of what has allegedly transpired in San Giovanni Rotondo, not one word has been uttered by the Vatican or other officials and millions of devotees to Saint Padre Pio are unaware and would be outraged if they ever suspected that their donations (estimated to be over $250,000,000.00 US) had been used to allegedly defame their beloved Saint!

If these allegations are in fact verified the scandal could be enormous. Millions of Catholics devoted to Padre Pio would be shocked and angry. The scandal would involve huge sums of money, the defamation of a Sainted Priest loved world wide by millions, the undermining of Faith, the undermining of the Catholic Hierarchy. It seems that officially no one in the Vatican is talking about this alleged scandal, even though a special reunion took place in San Giovanni Rotondo, on May 1 through May 6, 2006 attended by 150 Vatican experts including the Secretary of State Sodano. Ostensibly these experts converged on San Giovanni Rotondo to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the founding of the hospital (Casa di Sollievo della Sofferenza) by Padre Pio. Their meetings were open to the public during the day, however, their closed door evening meetings were allegedly dedicated to high level discussions of the Chiesa Viva special issue #381.It was subsequently reported, confidentially, that the Vatican has adopted an official solution that essentially amounts to total silence on this matter! If this is true then the allegations of Chiesa Viva may be much more than allegations and silence on the part of the Vatican is tantamount to conceding victory to Chiesa Viva. How long can this story be kept under wraps before the devotees of Padre Pio find out that they and their saint have been betrayed!?


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This March 2006 special edition of Chiesa Viva has been sent to the following traditional and conservative Catholic publications and amazingly they are afraid to reprint the story.

Tradition, Family & Property

The Remnant

The Wanderer

Catholic Family News

Inside The Vatican

Funding for an English translation has been secured, however, from private sources, and is now proceeding.

As background, the publisher of Chiesa Viva, Monsignor Luigi Villa, was entrusted by Padre Pio with the mission of ferreting out the Communist and Freemasonic infiltration in the Roman Catholic Church.

Monsignor Villa has been most dilligent in this effort over the past five decades and as a result at least four or five attempts have beeen made upon his life, with two of them putting him into a coma, one of which lasted for six months. He has also had every tooth in his mouth broken.

Others with whom Monsignor Villa has worked have been even more unfortunate.

Some Images of the New Church

1 posted on 07/19/2006 10:40:43 AM PDT by Youngstown
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To: Pyro7480; NYer; Salvation; Antoninus; TAdams8591

Ping!


2 posted on 07/19/2006 10:42:25 AM PDT by Youngstown
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To: Youngstown

gasp! The horror.... the horror.... :-)


3 posted on 07/19/2006 10:42:44 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Youngstown

yeeeesh that's the ugliest cross I've ever seen


4 posted on 07/19/2006 10:48:41 AM PDT by Nihil Obstat
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To: Youngstown
Link to the March 2006 Chiesa Viva Special Edition
5 posted on 07/19/2006 10:49:23 AM PDT by Youngstown
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To: Youngstown

Padre Pio and my great grandparents were paesani (from the same area of Italy) (although they never new each other) He knew very well the dangers of Masons--but Italy has been infested with them for a long time.


6 posted on 07/19/2006 10:51:08 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (Jesus a perfect 10 v. Allah 0)
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To: Youngstown

The Remnant is afraid to print an article about a Freemason takeover? Wow, I thought I'd heard everything.


7 posted on 07/19/2006 10:59:02 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Youngstown

It's ugly.


8 posted on 07/19/2006 10:59:45 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Whiskey for my men, hyperbolic rodomontade for my horses.)
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To: uglybiker

Okay, ugly, ping the list. This is crazy propaganda that needs refutation.


9 posted on 07/19/2006 10:59:47 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Youngstown
If the architect did not conciously incorporate Masonic symbolism in the design of the church, he was obvious very heavily influenced by the following:

1. The main hall of the U.N. General Assembly (church proper);

2. The sketches of M.C. Escher (the cross); and

3. The opening scenes of 2001: A Space Odyssey (the chapel).

10 posted on 07/19/2006 11:02:58 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Youngstown

Slightly off topic - I'm not Catholic, so much of this is foreign to me. But I've heard of Padre Pio before.

And not in a good way. Apparently, in Northern Ireland, kneecapping and shooting out the elbows is so yesterday. The newest form of punishment shootings over the past couple of years involves having the victim put his hands together as if in prayer. He is then shot through both hands.

They call it the Padre Pio. As I said, I'm not Catholic, but even I must shake my head at that and wonder is there nothing sacred anymore.


11 posted on 07/19/2006 11:05:01 AM PDT by elc
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To: brooklyn dave

One of my great-grandparents was a mason in Italy. What's wrong with the masons?


12 posted on 07/19/2006 11:19:49 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: Youngstown
That title is misleading. The real title was in a question form for a discussion forum. It is NOT based on Freemason symbols, at least it was not meant to be, but on other buildings as another poster has already stated. Of course, a few Masonic symbols were already used by the Church prior to their formation, such as the Maltese Cross, so that would not be incompatible with the Church.

I'm no fan of Freemasons, but the days of them actually working against the Catholic Church are long over, and that was limited to a few incidents in Europe anyway. This is like an old boogie man tale.

Still, it is against Church law for a Catholic to be a Freemason. It is no longer under the penalty of excommunication, but it is still a grave sin, and the Catholic member may not receive communion.

Vatican Declaration on Freemasonry

Clarification for Catholic Freemasons

13 posted on 07/19/2006 11:26:59 AM PDT by Theoden (Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum europe vincendarum)
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To: Youngstown
MARCH 2006 CHIESA VIVA SPECIAL EDITION
14 posted on 07/19/2006 11:37:37 AM PDT by Youngstown
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To: nopardons

Will do as soon as I get home!


15 posted on 07/19/2006 11:56:58 AM PDT by uglybiker (Don't blame me. I didn't make you stupid.)
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To: Theoden; AlaninSA; NYer; Salvation
You might want to ping the lists.


16 posted on 07/19/2006 12:03:27 PM PDT by Theoden (Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum europe vincendarum)
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To: Youngstown
The authors allege that Masonic symbols are apparent everywhere. The authors allege that their special issue of Chiesa Viva has put into focus an alleged Masonic plan to DO battle with God by attempting to destroy the Catholic Church with Masonic Ecumenism. According to the authors the most devastating aspect of this blasphemy is the direct insult to the Holy Trinity and Our Lord Jesus Christ that have been symbolically displaced from the Cross and the Tabernacle and replaced by the blasphemous "Masonic triple trinity" and of Lucifer in person.

Just looked at the pics - that is one uuuugly design. Conspiracy Ping! to read later.

17 posted on 07/19/2006 12:24:45 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:6)
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To: Oratam
If the architect did not conciously incorporate Masonic symbolism in the design of the church, he was obvious very heavily influenced by the following:

3. The opening scenes of 2001: A Space Odyssey (the chapel).

You mean it looks as if it were inspired by a bunch of primitive apes smashing bones together?


18 posted on 07/19/2006 12:32:58 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:6)
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To: Tired of Taxes

I think in Italy they were far more anti-Catholic, one of reasons RCs so against them. In US Masons not anti-Catholic (today)


19 posted on 07/19/2006 12:37:14 PM PDT by brooklyn dave (Jesus a perfect 10 v. Allah 0)
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To: Theoden
Still, it is against Church law for a Catholic to be a Freemason. It is no longer under the penalty of excommunication, but it is still a grave sin, and the Catholic member may not receive communion.

I think this is an interesting subject. If you can't receive communion, aren't you in effect Ex-COMMUNION-Cated?

Here's an interesting tidbit from EWTN:

"Presumably, there are few if any Christifidelis readers who are unaware that the bishop of Lincoln, Nebraska, the Most Rev. Fabian W. Bruskewitz, on March 19, 1996, using his legitimate authority to make laws which bind members of his flock, published a legislative pronouncement naming twelve organizations, membership in which was defined to be "always perilous to the Catholic Faith and most often is totally incompatible with the Catholic Faith." (Southern Nebraska Register, March 22, 1996.)

The list of organizations contained in the law includes: the Society of St. Pius X and a chapel served by its priests; three non-Catholic organizations which are openly opposed to and contemptuous of the Church's teaching on the sanctity of human life; the Freemasons and four subsidiary groups. Also named are two organizations whose inclusion is sure to cause the most controversy: Call to Action (CTA) and its Nebraska chapter, Call to Action Nebraska. The legislation went on to state: "Any Catholics in and of the Diocese of Lincoln who attain or retain membership in the above listed organizations or groups after April 15, 1996, are by that very fact () under interdict and are absolutely forbidden to receive Holy Communion. Contumacious persistence in such membership for one month following the interdict on [the] part of any such Catholics will by that very fact () cause them to be excommunicated..."

Finally, Somebody Does Something

That aside, Padre Pio would be very displeased at such a church erected in his honor.

20 posted on 07/19/2006 12:57:04 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Alex Murphy
I think the black marble tabernacle resembles the enigmatic monolith from the movie.

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21 posted on 07/19/2006 1:06:43 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: FJ290

Freemasonry's denial that there is one true religion and promotion of religious indifferentism flies in the face of the
Catholic Church's teachings.

I attended a Masonic ceremony before that was stated very explicitly. The Masons founded the Jacobin movement that triggered the Reign of Terror in the French Revolution. These so-called tolerant Freemasons were responsible for an ancestor's beheading during the French Revolution on account he was a Catholic bishop and a nobleman in 1794.

From the Catholic Encyclopedia:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09771a.htm
http://www.atheists.org/Atheism/roots/enlightenment/

They were also chiefly behind the Mexican government's persecution of the Catholic Church during the 1910s and 1920s.

For a Catholic to support Freemasonry in any way is a bit like a Jew to support the Nazis.


22 posted on 07/19/2006 1:35:01 PM PDT by pravknight (Liberalism under the guise of magisterial teaching is still heresy)
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To: Youngstown
This March 2006 special edition of Chiesa Viva has been sent to the following traditional and conservative Catholic publications and amazingly they are afraid to reprint the story.

Ya don't think the Masons have gotten to them too, do ya?

Yikes........this is scary!!!!!

Email this directly to Msgr. Ganswein at the Vatican and he'll go directly to Pope Benedict. Do not send this to Levada at the CDF. If you do, make sure you leave town immediately or at the very least change the locks on your home. He can't be trusted.

In the meantime, take a look at this!!!! After you've done so, immediately change your FR tag. Not too many of us know about this and those who do are being tracked by the powers of evil.

Good luck and keep us posted.

23 posted on 07/19/2006 2:25:42 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: pravknight
Freemasonry's denial that there is one true religion and promotion of religious indifferentism flies in the face of the Catholic Church's teachings.

Couldn't agree more.

I attended a Masonic ceremony before that was stated very explicitly. The Masons founded the Jacobin movement that triggered the Reign of Terror in the French Revolution. These so-called tolerant Freemasons were responsible for an ancestor's beheading during the French Revolution on account he was a Catholic bishop and a nobleman in 1794.

Wow! You have some interesting family history there. That's sad about your ancestor, but yes, these things did happen and many refuse to acknowledge it today.

24 posted on 07/19/2006 3:39:33 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Oratam
I think the black marble tabernacle resembles the enigmatic monolith from the movie

Ya know what is scary? It also resembles the stone at Mecca if you stretch it out.


25 posted on 07/19/2006 3:48:23 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: nopardons; Chode; TheLion; AxelPaulsenJr; jimt; Eric in the Ozarks; oldtimer; pt17; ...

Masonic

LIST
Send uglybiker a FReepmail if you want on/off The Masonic PING List
The List of Ping Lists

Put on yer tinfoil waders folks! This one's deep!

26 posted on 07/19/2006 4:18:05 PM PDT by uglybiker (Don't blame me. I didn't make you stupid.)
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To: pravknight; nopardons; Chode; TheLion; AxelPaulsenJr; jimt; Eric in the Ozarks; oldtimer; pt17; ...

Considering the Masonic resistance to Hitler's reign and his attempt at crushing them, your statement is trash


27 posted on 07/19/2006 4:36:09 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: tlRCta; RKBA Democrat; fedupjohn; Warthogtjm; markomalley; lneuser; Coleus; ArrogantBustard; ...

Please FReepmail me if you'd like to be added to or removed from the KofC ping list.

Sorry for the LATE ping -- business travel had me away from the personal computer (again!).

28 posted on 07/19/2006 4:37:05 PM PDT by AlaninSA ("Beware the fury of a patient man." - John Dryden)
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To: 5Madman2

To the ping list, that was directed at pravknight


29 posted on 07/19/2006 4:38:58 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: uglybiker
"Put on yer tinfoil waders folks! This one's deep!"

Thanks for the ping, it's always fun to read the mental gyrations these twilight zone, fantasy-landers put themselves though ~ they are hilarious infants!


30 posted on 07/19/2006 4:40:10 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: uglybiker
Image hosted by Photobucket.com Beware the BlackBalled Whiners... 8^)
31 posted on 07/19/2006 5:10:17 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: uglybiker

Thanks for the ping!


32 posted on 07/19/2006 5:47:55 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: pravknight; dixiechick2000
Oh dear, this is getting tiresome and more than a little ridiculous; to say the least.

First of all, Freemasonry is NOT a religion, a religious organization, and therefore, has ALWAYS been tolerant of people who are of different religious beliefs. Of course they deny that there is one and only only one "true religion" and HOOOOOOOOOORAY for them, for that!

If your ancestor personally met Madame Guillotine, it was because he was an aristo...NOT because he was a Catholic Bishop and the Masons had NOTHING at all to do with that; unless you want to blame ALL Masons for Guillotine's invention, since he was a Mason. He was also a Catholic, BTW.

It would really help you, if you actually knew and understood factual history, before you posted. First of all, There was a JACOBITE movement, in England, which had to do with the Revolution of 1688. most Jacobite were ROMAN CATHOLIC! Though some were indeed Masons, they had NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the French Revolution! The Jacobites wanted to restore the Stuart Monarchy to the English throne. And FYI...The Jacobite Movement was added and abetted by the Vatican and Jesuits, who the last time I looked, were part of the Catholic church.

It was these Jacobite Masons, who fled to Holland, which actually began the anti-Masonic junk, because the Dutch were troubled by them and that they were meeting to thrown a spanner in the works, with the Duke of Orange, who was then sitting on the throne of England. This then led to what I'll call "uneasiness" within the realms of some of the crowned heads of Europe and the Catholic church.

Just as there are good and bad apples in every race, religion, ethnicity, and social groups, you shouldn't blame an entire group for a few bad apples. Have there been "bad" , IRREGULAR ( which means Masons in name only and even that, not legit! )"Masonic groups"? Yes, there have been and that is exactly what was the genesis of the first Papal Bull, written by Pope Clement XIX, in 1738 based on Cardinal Corisini's input. OTOH, the original Bull WAS probably written against one or two Italian Masosnic groups. It is still questionable that it was meant for all of Freemasonry.

And to prove this point, I offer you the words of Cardinal Corisini, whose letter to the Grand Duke of Tuscany said that "Freemasonry had begun in England as an amusement or decent diversion but...has degenerated in Italy, and has become a school of ungodliness." He was BTW, referring to their habits OUTSIDE of Masonry.

Yet, it was and apparently still is, for some, the fact that Freemasonry has always espoused freedom of association, tolerance, and free speech, that drove the RCC to distraction. You just can't have any of THAT, now can we. LOL

After escaping to England, from France, a French priest, Abbe Barruel was the first, in a landslide of books and pamphlets for and against the proposition that the French Revolution was started by Masons. John Robinson was another pamphleteer, who stated that this was true. Reynold's Wrap hadn't been invented yet, but both of these men were wrapped, mummy-like, in it! Diederot had been a Mason, but Marat, Danton, and Robespierre weren't and nothing any of these men did, has anything to do with Freemasonry.

No serious historian believes that Mason started and carried out the French Revolution; not a one! This is as nutty and spurious as any Stone conspiracy movies and the blasted PORTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ZION!

Your last sentence is false, disgusting, vile, libelous, and beneath contempt! You owe every single Mason, living and dead, and every member of their extended families, a public apology.

Gee dixie, I guess you were right...that history lesson had to be rewritten. :-)

33 posted on 07/19/2006 5:59:54 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: FJ290
And some of you live in another, tinfoil covered, universe.

You should leave FR right now....FR does NOT, in any way, shape, manner, or form, claim that there is but one "true" religion. Run away......run away.......................run from here as fast as you can. :-)

34 posted on 07/19/2006 6:03:37 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: uglybiker

It's even worse than that, my friend.


35 posted on 07/19/2006 6:04:21 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: 5Madman2; pravknight
Exactly so and that poster owes ALL Masons, living and dead and all of their extended families a PUBLIC apology! He probably should denounce his American citizenship ( if he is an American ), because this nation was founded by a whole lot of Masons, who also enriched this nation, for centuries. Oh yes, and he should immediately stop using American money, because Masonic symbology abounds on it.
36 posted on 07/19/2006 6:10:00 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: brooklyn dave
"He knew very well the dangers of Masons"

Dangers of Masons? You better loosen your tin foil chapeau, it is really affecting your judgement.

37 posted on 07/19/2006 6:12:32 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (ˇSalga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: pravknight
"For a Catholic to support Freemasonry in any way is a bit like a Jew to support the Nazis."

You are seriously incorrect, but as you are also obviously a zealot, to expect a rational discussion with you would be a bridge to far.

You have my pity.

38 posted on 07/19/2006 6:15:50 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (ˇSalga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: Tired of Taxes

It's grounds for excommunication (as Bishop Fabian Bruskiewicz of Lincoln, Neb. did to his flock) since it goes against canon law in regards to secret societies. There have been encyclicals written about the ills of freemasonry.


39 posted on 07/19/2006 6:15:58 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: 5Madman2

Heobviously never heard the story of the Forget-Me-Not.


40 posted on 07/19/2006 6:17:02 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (ˇSalga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: uglybiker
NTSA!

Sheesh! Wonder what the buzz would be if the muzzies found an S&C somewhere on their black stone ediface?

Bottom line, it's all about free-association. Some can, some can't. Proud to be a Freemason who has no such restriction.

But in truth, the muzzies are more restrictive about that. They don't excommunicate their flock -- they just axe 'em.

41 posted on 07/19/2006 6:42:03 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: nopardons
And some of you live in another, tinfoil covered, universe.

Ad hominem.

You should leave FR right now....FR does NOT, in any way, shape, manner, or form, claim that there is but one "true" religion. Run away......run away.......................run from here as fast as you can. :-)

Look again at what Pravknight said:

Freemasonry's denial that there is one true religion and promotion of religious indifferentism flies in the face of the Catholic Church's teachings.

If you are a Christian, then there can only be ONE true religion and you shouldn't promote indifferentism. It is Catholic teaching and we have a right as Catholics on the religion forum to voice our beliefs as others have a right to voice theirs. It's America, freedom of speech, remember? FR also promotes that.

42 posted on 07/19/2006 6:46:26 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Redleg Duke

We have a young man in my Lodge who's Grandfather wore the Forget Me Not.

Quite a story-one that does not need to be forgotten-or diminished by idiots that equate Masons to Nazis.

I don't usually respond to conspiracy loons like this "knight" because they prove that arguing with the stupid is a exercise in frustration.

But sometimes, they provoke me, and I have to respond



43 posted on 07/19/2006 6:50:49 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: FJ290
I am a Christian and most assuredly do NOT believe that the Catholic church is the ONLY "true religion"! Catholics, believe it or not, are NOT the ONLY Christians.

You should learn what an ad hominem is, before you claim someone else made one. I was responding to a mother-load of ad hominems; none of which you had any problems with. :-)

And since Freemasonry is NOT now, nor has it EVER been a religion or a religious affiliated group, but a FRATERNAL ORGANIZATION, where is your complaints against the Moose, the Rotarians, and the Elk? :-)

44 posted on 07/19/2006 6:53:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: 5Madman2

It is like mud-wrestling with pigs.


45 posted on 07/19/2006 6:53:12 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (ˇSalga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: Coleus

The ills of Freemasonry?????

Such as? Give some real ills and not any conspiracy ridden tripe wrapped in false religious trappings.



46 posted on 07/19/2006 6:54:19 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: Redleg Duke

Yessir, it is

They wallow in their ingorance


47 posted on 07/19/2006 6:56:45 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: nopardons
I am a Christian and most assuredly do NOT believe that the Catholic church is the ONLY "true religion"! Catholics, believe it or not, are NOT the ONLY Christians.

Umm...nobody said that. You are jumping to conclusions.

You should learn what an ad hominem is, before you claim someone else made one. I was responding to a mother-load of ad hominems; none of which you had any problems with. :-)

Personally, I had not even addressed you when I get a ping from you stating this:

And some of you live in another, tinfoil covered, universe.Post #34

Not to mention in that post, you oh so unkindly invited me to leave FR.

48 posted on 07/19/2006 7:01:38 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: theDentist

Woe


49 posted on 07/19/2006 7:05:18 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: FJ290
As a Freemason I respect the Catholic Church.

Our enemies are the Isalamist killers, and if Chistians don't work very hard together, they will ultimately wipe us out.

Meanwhile, anybody who reads A WORLD LIT ONLY BY FIRE by William Manchester will through a well documented history book enlighten you that nobody, but nobody is perfect, except for our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

50 posted on 07/19/2006 7:14:14 PM PDT by oldtimer
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